Funnily enough "vehicular language" is one of the alternative terms for a lingua franca.
"Vehicle" originally being used for conveyance in general.
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"Vehicle" originally being used for conveyance in general.
The Carthaginian Empire at its greatest extent, circa 50 AD (our calendar)
In this timeline, a Mysterious Time Traveller shows up after the Battle of Cannae and advises Hannibal to attack Rome while it's vulnerable instead of giving it time to recover. This leads to a Carthaginian victory in the Second Punic War. A few years later, a failed assassination attempt on Hannibal by the oligarchs sets off a chain of events that ends with Hannibal basically becoming a military dictator. Then Scipio comes around and Rome starts the Third Punic War to get revenge, but unfortunately Carthage still wins (by then Hannibal had been in charge for years and made sure to prepare Carthage for the next war with Rome) and Rome is... well... at least Hannibal didn't salt the earth. After that, though Carthage is still focused more on trade, they do expand their empire, until it reached the extent you see here.
There are two controversies on this map: one, while there were at this point two regional powers in southern Britain, it's unclear how far either extended, and while the western Britons were strongly influenced by Carthage, it is unclear whether they were actually part of the Carthaginian Empire or not; and two, while there are references in historical records to "islands far in the west" under Carthaginian dominion, there is debate over whether these are even factual, let alone whether the islands they refer to could be the *Lesser Antilles (Berberyan and Neo-Carthaginian historians certainly think so).
In this timeline, a Mysterious Time Traveller shows up after the Battle of Cannae and advises Hannibal to attack Rome while it's vulnerable instead of giving it time to recover. This leads to a Carthaginian victory in the Second Punic War. A few years later, a failed assassination attempt on Hannibal by the oligarchs sets off a chain of events that ends with Hannibal basically becoming a military dictator. Then Scipio comes around and Rome starts the Third Punic War to get revenge, but unfortunately Carthage still wins (by then Hannibal had been in charge for years and made sure to prepare Carthage for the next war with Rome) and Rome is... well... at least Hannibal didn't salt the earth. After that, though Carthage is still focused more on trade, they do expand their empire, until it reached the extent you see here.
There are two controversies on this map: one, while there were at this point two regional powers in southern Britain, it's unclear how far either extended, and while the western Britons were strongly influenced by Carthage, it is unclear whether they were actually part of the Carthaginian Empire or not; and two, while there are references in historical records to "islands far in the west" under Carthaginian dominion, there is debate over whether these are even factual, let alone whether the islands they refer to could be the *Lesser Antilles (Berberyan and Neo-Carthaginian historians certainly think so).
Months after the war, the Soviet Anthem can be heard, increasing in volume, rapidly heading towards what's left of Moscow.
Why don't you try using GIMP.
Take a copy of your map to use, go to GIMP, Filters/edge detect/edge will give you an outline, export [NOT save] and then, in Paint, paste the original over it with the seas transparent.
Should take about 5mins.
I like the touch of having the map include things that the historians of the timeline consider controversial/of debatable factuality.
Because the first time I opened GIMP I found that it was a real pain to understand compared to Paint, which I mastered almost with my fingertips. 😅
I'm going to try what you suggested.
I agree its a pain but used on a limited basis with other programs and its great.
I use i.mage, paint and GIMP mainly for my maps.
NGL that should have been how the man in the high castle should have ended.
So i'm feeling a little bold today, and am thinking about making a cover map of the 2012 (inferior) Remake of Red Dawn. I am open to suggestions at the moment, because all we know regarding the war situation is the United States map and some vague background information from the Intro and Exposition Soldiers, meaning I am open for Ideas.
All we do know is that America was invaded on two sides, with the Russians (Mentioned to be under Ultranationalists ala Modern Warfare) in the East and the Chinese and DPRK in the West (The Chinese were only hinted at, but I'm going to assume that North Korea is playing second fiddle). I'm also probably gonna take more ideas from the original "China is the invader plot" and with North Korea only being included as, again, second fiddle.
All we do know is that America was invaded on two sides, with the Russians (Mentioned to be under Ultranationalists ala Modern Warfare) in the East and the Chinese and DPRK in the West (The Chinese were only hinted at, but I'm going to assume that North Korea is playing second fiddle). I'm also probably gonna take more ideas from the original "China is the invader plot" and with North Korea only being included as, again, second fiddle.
It all started when the Red Army rolled into Warsaw on August 13, 1920. The 40,000 strong Polish Army was crushed and outnumbered 3:1 by the might of the Soviets. At the same time, the failing Ottoman Empire was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres, partitioning just over half of the country to Armenia, Georgia, the United Kingdom, France, Italy, and Greece. An international zone was set up in the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, including the city of Constantinople, and the Kurds were freed with an independent state in the east. Meanwhile in Poland, the Red Army did not stop their invasion. They rushed beyond Warsaw, and took Lvov and Lublin within 3 weeks. On September 9, the Polish government surrendered to Russia, and president Jozef Pilsudski fled to Berlin, then to London. The People's Republic of Poland was established, with the Curzon line as the border. But, the spirit of the Polish people didn't end. Many Poles actively resisted Soviet control, in what they called "Wielki opór", or "The Great Resistance". An estimated 23,500 people would be executed by the Soviets between 1920 and 1925 for being "counter-revolutionaries" and spreading "counter-revolutionary propaganda". At the same exact time, the Red Army invaded Armenia, which had just been awarded a large section of eastern Turkey. The country would surrender on November 29, while the Turks attempted to take back what they had lost. The Soviets pushed Turkey back to the demarcation line.
On February 15, 1921, the Red Army invaded Georgia, finishing the consolidation of the Caucasus under communist control. They surrendered on March 17. After the defeat of the White Army in 1922, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was established. At the same time, a man in Italy named Benito Mussolini attempted a coup d'etat by marching into Rome and replacing the monarchy with a fascist government. But, they were stopped by military soldiers at the entrance into Parliament. A member of the Blackshirts' armed wing shot one of the guards, which began a bloodbath on the streets. Mussolini was caught and taken into prison, where he would later be found guilty of high treason against the state. He was executed on January 11, 1923. Later that year, a young Adolf Hitler, hearing of Mussolini's fate, nixed plans for a putsch in Munich. The NSDAP would later on lose election after election. In the 1932 general elections, Franz Papen won the presidency. Hitler was furious, and as a result, led a march on Berlin, starting the German Civil War. The French, Belgians, and British intervened and occupied the Rhineland and border area around Alsace-Lorraine. The year is now 1936. A spectre is haunting Europe...the spectre of communism.
On February 15, 1921, the Red Army invaded Georgia, finishing the consolidation of the Caucasus under communist control. They surrendered on March 17. After the defeat of the White Army in 1922, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was established. At the same time, a man in Italy named Benito Mussolini attempted a coup d'etat by marching into Rome and replacing the monarchy with a fascist government. But, they were stopped by military soldiers at the entrance into Parliament. A member of the Blackshirts' armed wing shot one of the guards, which began a bloodbath on the streets. Mussolini was caught and taken into prison, where he would later be found guilty of high treason against the state. He was executed on January 11, 1923. Later that year, a young Adolf Hitler, hearing of Mussolini's fate, nixed plans for a putsch in Munich. The NSDAP would later on lose election after election. In the 1932 general elections, Franz Papen won the presidency. Hitler was furious, and as a result, led a march on Berlin, starting the German Civil War. The French, Belgians, and British intervened and occupied the Rhineland and border area around Alsace-Lorraine. The year is now 1936. A spectre is haunting Europe...the spectre of communism.
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What if the Austro-Hungarian Empire was reborn?
All it took was one man. His name was Reinhard Lade. Lade was born in a small town outside Vienna, Austria in 1885. The world events progressed as normal, he never fought in WW1 due to a broken leg and further complications from that. Miraculously, after the war he recovered quite quickly and was able to walk again. He lived an average middle class life until that of the great depression. Broken on the streets, laying on the streets feeling so beaten down, he knew that he had to change the world in one way or another. He bought into ideas of National Socialism, however he had wanted to create more of a human face. He never viewed the Jews as subhuman untermensch, he saw the leading governments of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire as the main problem in society.
He lead a march on Vienna with disgraced WW1 veterans and various other supporters, rallying around the cause known as the National Re-Union Party (Nationale Wiedervereinigungspartei). He was sort of like Adolf Hitler in a way, he spoke loudly, powerfully and was able to get many to his cause. The majority of which was based around the re-union of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and to stand against the west and communist east. He seized power on February 23rd, 1930. The mobs of his supporters had taken down the government. A civil war had began, however the civil war was won quite quickly by his supporters and the Austrian Empire was re-born. In a move like no other, he crowned himself Emperor of Austria. While as controversial as it was, nobody payed much mind. The people were starving and desperate. He saw the previous monarchy as corrupt and in-ept, and he was going to be the one to lead Austria into a greater future.
While light elements of National Socialism were in effect, they had never planned to round up and slaughter the jews, unlike the Germans in the North. Adolf Hitler became leader of Germany a year earlier in our timeline, at that time Lade and Hitler were allies. Soon Mussolini, Lade, and Hitler formed the Axis powers. However secretly, Hitler was planning on taking down his Austrian ally, as he was far more radical than Lade ever was. The Germans re-arm the Rhineland, the Austrians boost up their military which makes the French and British quite nervous and angry. The 'Austrian' question was always in the minds of both Germans and Austrians, however Lade would never submit to the Germans. Lade was rather friendly with the Italians, this caused tension between the members of the Axis powers. Soon enough one of Lade's big goals would be achieved. In 1936 Austria and Hungary united to form one Empire. They had been in talks and were able to form a fair, equal union. In 1938, a year earlier than in our world, the German-Soviet invasion of Poland would begin the Second World War.
The Austrians had quickly blitzed through Slovakia, while the Germans had taken Czechia, splitting Czechoslovakia in 2. The events of the war would proceed similarly to our timeline until 1943. Finland had officially joined the Axis powers and participated in the invasion of the Soviet Union. The battle of Stalingrad resulted in an Axis victory, however that was soon to change and didn't really matter because of what was about to happen next. At the time, Lade and Mussolini were in secret talks with the allies. There is no way either of them could have stood to be under German hegemony. In what is called the London Affair, both Lade and Mussolini agreed to join the allies in exchange for minor concessions after the war.
Later in the year in 1943, both the Austrians and Italians switched sides to join the allies. The Austrians officially dropped antisemitism as part of their ideology. As a result, a few radical Austrian leaders attempted a coup against the Emperor but were assassinated before that could occur. This caused a second civil war within Austria, allowing the Soviets and other Western allies to make great gains into Germany. However, the Austrians defeated their Nazi enemies within Austrian borders, the civil war being between the more moderate Austrian fascist ruling elite and the more radical Austrian National Socialists. The war ended in Europe a year earlier in our world, the Austrians liberating the concentration camps and taking a hold of a large area in Southern Germany which would soon become the Austrian occupation zone, alongside the American Occupation zone.
Various other events have occurred throughout and during the war, however Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, and other various members of the Nazi elite were captured by an Austrian patrol and jailed, to be tried at the Nuremburg trials in 1944.
A major important difference is, despite the Austro-Hungarian Empire's dislike of the jews, many German scientists would have went to them after the war. The Austro-Hungarians wanting to gain an edge in the future conflicts. They would have developed the Nuclear Bomb, but later than it was developed in our timeline, leading the Americans and allies to commit to Operation Downfall instead of the Atomic bombings which resulted in hundreds of thousands more American causalities than in our timeline, a divided Japan between a capitalist South and communist North, and an entirely communist Korea.
The Nuremburg trials would have occurred like our timeline, however with an Austro-Hungarian presence and the trial of Heinrich Himmler and Adolf Hitler who were shot to death (and rightly so) by an Austrian firing squad. Germany was occupied from 1944 to 1949 by the western allies. When the occupation was up, the Soviets had established the Democratic Republic of Germany in the East, with no Berlin airlift in this world due to alternate events. Western Germany as an ally of the west, while Bavaria was directly annexed into the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Czechia had already been annexed before the surrender of Germany to the Allied Powers.
The Austro-Hungarians and their allies formed a neutral bloc, this strangely enough, included Switzerland. This bloc was called the Iron Pact (I don't know about that name though...). One of the first events in the cold war was the protests in Western Germany. The Germans wanted to join the side of the Austro-Hungarians because of their German heritage and generous support throughout the struggles of occupation and starvation after the war. Eventually the protests had erupted into Riots, and the Western allies were forced to back out due to the pressure from the Austro-Hungarians and threats. This would lead them astray from the former allied powers. Western Germany joined the neutral bloc and became subtly influenced by light fascist and monarchist ideals, resulting in a government change.
The cold war blocs were in place, and the cold war hysteria would be with an added twist - the existence of a 3rd side.
Unlike Hitler, Lade was in rather perfect health and never did drugs so he lived a long life until 1970 where he died peacefully in his sleep. Mussolini had passed away in 1961. Italy would hold onto Libya, but gave up their other colonies as a result of pressure from the west.
History happens.
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This is a rather bad map to be honest, should give you some ideas of what to imagine in this world. I'm no detailed writer / alternate historian so keep that in mind.
The Helsinki Pact (in red) are the communists.
The Iron Pact (in light purple) are the Austro-Hungarians and their allies.
The Global Treaty Organisation (in blue) are the Americans and their allies.
All it took was one man. His name was Reinhard Lade. Lade was born in a small town outside Vienna, Austria in 1885. The world events progressed as normal, he never fought in WW1 due to a broken leg and further complications from that. Miraculously, after the war he recovered quite quickly and was able to walk again. He lived an average middle class life until that of the great depression. Broken on the streets, laying on the streets feeling so beaten down, he knew that he had to change the world in one way or another. He bought into ideas of National Socialism, however he had wanted to create more of a human face. He never viewed the Jews as subhuman untermensch, he saw the leading governments of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire as the main problem in society.
He lead a march on Vienna with disgraced WW1 veterans and various other supporters, rallying around the cause known as the National Re-Union Party (Nationale Wiedervereinigungspartei). He was sort of like Adolf Hitler in a way, he spoke loudly, powerfully and was able to get many to his cause. The majority of which was based around the re-union of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and to stand against the west and communist east. He seized power on February 23rd, 1930. The mobs of his supporters had taken down the government. A civil war had began, however the civil war was won quite quickly by his supporters and the Austrian Empire was re-born. In a move like no other, he crowned himself Emperor of Austria. While as controversial as it was, nobody payed much mind. The people were starving and desperate. He saw the previous monarchy as corrupt and in-ept, and he was going to be the one to lead Austria into a greater future.
While light elements of National Socialism were in effect, they had never planned to round up and slaughter the jews, unlike the Germans in the North. Adolf Hitler became leader of Germany a year earlier in our timeline, at that time Lade and Hitler were allies. Soon Mussolini, Lade, and Hitler formed the Axis powers. However secretly, Hitler was planning on taking down his Austrian ally, as he was far more radical than Lade ever was. The Germans re-arm the Rhineland, the Austrians boost up their military which makes the French and British quite nervous and angry. The 'Austrian' question was always in the minds of both Germans and Austrians, however Lade would never submit to the Germans. Lade was rather friendly with the Italians, this caused tension between the members of the Axis powers. Soon enough one of Lade's big goals would be achieved. In 1936 Austria and Hungary united to form one Empire. They had been in talks and were able to form a fair, equal union. In 1938, a year earlier than in our world, the German-Soviet invasion of Poland would begin the Second World War.
The Austrians had quickly blitzed through Slovakia, while the Germans had taken Czechia, splitting Czechoslovakia in 2. The events of the war would proceed similarly to our timeline until 1943. Finland had officially joined the Axis powers and participated in the invasion of the Soviet Union. The battle of Stalingrad resulted in an Axis victory, however that was soon to change and didn't really matter because of what was about to happen next. At the time, Lade and Mussolini were in secret talks with the allies. There is no way either of them could have stood to be under German hegemony. In what is called the London Affair, both Lade and Mussolini agreed to join the allies in exchange for minor concessions after the war.
Later in the year in 1943, both the Austrians and Italians switched sides to join the allies. The Austrians officially dropped antisemitism as part of their ideology. As a result, a few radical Austrian leaders attempted a coup against the Emperor but were assassinated before that could occur. This caused a second civil war within Austria, allowing the Soviets and other Western allies to make great gains into Germany. However, the Austrians defeated their Nazi enemies within Austrian borders, the civil war being between the more moderate Austrian fascist ruling elite and the more radical Austrian National Socialists. The war ended in Europe a year earlier in our world, the Austrians liberating the concentration camps and taking a hold of a large area in Southern Germany which would soon become the Austrian occupation zone, alongside the American Occupation zone.
Various other events have occurred throughout and during the war, however Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, and other various members of the Nazi elite were captured by an Austrian patrol and jailed, to be tried at the Nuremburg trials in 1944.
A major important difference is, despite the Austro-Hungarian Empire's dislike of the jews, many German scientists would have went to them after the war. The Austro-Hungarians wanting to gain an edge in the future conflicts. They would have developed the Nuclear Bomb, but later than it was developed in our timeline, leading the Americans and allies to commit to Operation Downfall instead of the Atomic bombings which resulted in hundreds of thousands more American causalities than in our timeline, a divided Japan between a capitalist South and communist North, and an entirely communist Korea.
The Nuremburg trials would have occurred like our timeline, however with an Austro-Hungarian presence and the trial of Heinrich Himmler and Adolf Hitler who were shot to death (and rightly so) by an Austrian firing squad. Germany was occupied from 1944 to 1949 by the western allies. When the occupation was up, the Soviets had established the Democratic Republic of Germany in the East, with no Berlin airlift in this world due to alternate events. Western Germany as an ally of the west, while Bavaria was directly annexed into the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Czechia had already been annexed before the surrender of Germany to the Allied Powers.
The Austro-Hungarians and their allies formed a neutral bloc, this strangely enough, included Switzerland. This bloc was called the Iron Pact (I don't know about that name though...). One of the first events in the cold war was the protests in Western Germany. The Germans wanted to join the side of the Austro-Hungarians because of their German heritage and generous support throughout the struggles of occupation and starvation after the war. Eventually the protests had erupted into Riots, and the Western allies were forced to back out due to the pressure from the Austro-Hungarians and threats. This would lead them astray from the former allied powers. Western Germany joined the neutral bloc and became subtly influenced by light fascist and monarchist ideals, resulting in a government change.
The cold war blocs were in place, and the cold war hysteria would be with an added twist - the existence of a 3rd side.
Unlike Hitler, Lade was in rather perfect health and never did drugs so he lived a long life until 1970 where he died peacefully in his sleep. Mussolini had passed away in 1961. Italy would hold onto Libya, but gave up their other colonies as a result of pressure from the west.
History happens.
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This is a rather bad map to be honest, should give you some ideas of what to imagine in this world. I'm no detailed writer / alternate historian so keep that in mind.
The Helsinki Pact (in red) are the communists.
The Iron Pact (in light purple) are the Austro-Hungarians and their allies.
The Global Treaty Organisation (in blue) are the Americans and their allies.
what movieWIP of the US based on what little information we got from the movie. I am completely open to suggestions for the rest of the world:
After a request from a friend, I've tried to adapt my recent isometric style to a Caribbean island, specifically St Lucia. I had to adapt the palette a little bit because of the number of elevation layers I used, and also went for attempting pixel art plants rather than buildings because it seemed to suit a rainforest island like St Lucia. I think I might prefer the simpler maps I did first, but this isn't bad I think.
My personal take on the continents, sub-continents, plus some sub-sub-continents
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