Revolution! Or, A Victorian Cold War
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KitFisto1997
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Thanks! I've been suffering from another bout of writer's block again... This time it's being fuelled by family medical emergencies and a lack of free time to write.
Hopefully I can get another little write-up or story update out before Christmas Eve.
How does Alayska have multiple tsars? Has the definition of that word undergone some changes since the days of the revolution?
Also, this was very well done, I think more megacorp profiles would be quite interesting.
KitFisto1997
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Gorbachev has seen the rise and fall of at least a few Tsars and his plans have stretched back since the 1980's. There's only one Alayskan Tsar atm, no more and no less.
Ron Paul Interview II
KitFisto1997
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AN EXCERPT FROM 'FIRING LINE' - AIRED LATE NOVEMBER, 1976 A.D.
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“We bring you breaking news of an earthquake in the southern Transcaucasian state of Armenia… A combined contingent of Ottoman, Kurdish and Iranian peacekeepers have been sent to survey the damage… A response from the CSN…
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“BritTech brings you the best in electronics, from digital watches to computer terminals and even the latest in newfangled video entertainment...”
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“Anglo-Entente forces in Siam are set to fully withdraw from the nation after almost an entire decade of fighting against the guerilla forces of the Red Siamese state...”
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“The Star Corps Holiday Special will be airing on CBS New York after your local ‘News At 6’ bulletin – stay tuned after these messages...”
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“On this week’s episode of ‘Firing Line’, James Wallace and his panel of guests give their thoughts on the British evacuation of Siam and the failure of interventionist foreign policy...”
WALLACE, JAMES: “...We’ve discussed many things here on Firing Line, but the events that have come from our British and Japanese allies across both the Atlantic and the Pacific have bought fear and apprehension to our doorstep. The announcement that all Anglo-Entente forces are to leave Siam by the end of 1976 has shaken the resolve of even the most hardened military experts…
The Dear Leader of Siam has announced that in parallel to the British withdrawal, they plan to withdraw from global affairs, essentially turning the nation into a hermit state. All diplomatic and trade relations are now cut as the last supply ships leave for British-aligned Dai Nam and Hong Kong.
The possibility of further Communalist uprisings throughout South East Asia have become a frightening reality… The recent civil unrest in Southern China and the fall of the Bharatan government to a military coup has opened up more opportunities for Communalist states to arise in both India and Cathay, which may bring a new front to the Cold War.
How does the panel see the winds of change blowing in the Western World, now that the British have withdrawn from SE Asia?
Senator Paul, you first”
PAUL, RON: “Well I think that the interventionist policies of the Liberal government in Britain have certainly driven the people against them, as you’ve seen with the latest popularity polls. Whether the war was fought for good or bad reasons is not what I’m arguing here, instead, it seems that the status quo between the British public and Westminster has been broken and the public are now a hell of a lot more comfortable with questioning the actions of their government...”
WALLACE: “So you’re saying that the anti-war protests and the subsequent withdrawal have apparently opened the eyes of the British public to the misdeeds of their own government?”
PAUL: “Yes. I know the idea of questioning one’s overlords seems to be going out of fashion, even here in the United States, but it is an ideal that must be embraced throughout the Free World...”
WALLACE: “Our very own President Agnew has stated that the Siamese War will be the very last one that the United States will be in against her will. I now ask the British ambassador to the United States, one Benedict Goldwasser, on his opinions of the strained Anglo-American Friendship.”
GOLDWASSER, BENEDICT: “The relations between our two nations have indeed been strained over this sordid war. Your President wishes to tow the line of neutrality, at the expense of internal party support, while our Prime Ministers wish to finish the fight at the expense of internal public support. I am glad that the war is over and that our men have finally gone home, but I do fear what will happen to the people of Siam at the same time...”
WALLACE: “How do you think that Anglo-American relations will be restored then?”
GOLDWASSER: “As long as we stay out of these proxy wars whilst keeping a keen eye on the Germans across the English Channel, I think we can manage going with or without the United States. What President Agnew does is his own prerogative, but if he does choose international neutrality, we may have to seek better trade and diplomatic ties with the Mexicans or even the Brazilian Empire…”
WALLACE: “A very interesting idea, Ambassador Goldwasser… Firing Line will now return after these messages...”
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“We bring you breaking news of an earthquake in the southern Transcaucasian state of Armenia… A combined contingent of Ottoman, Kurdish and Iranian peacekeepers have been sent to survey the damage… A response from the CSN…
-kzzt-
“BritTech brings you the best in electronics, from digital watches to computer terminals and even the latest in newfangled video entertainment...”
-kzzt-
“Anglo-Entente forces in Siam are set to fully withdraw from the nation after almost an entire decade of fighting against the guerilla forces of the Red Siamese state...”
-kzzt-
“The Star Corps Holiday Special will be airing on CBS New York after your local ‘News At 6’ bulletin – stay tuned after these messages...”
-kzzt-
“On this week’s episode of ‘Firing Line’, James Wallace and his panel of guests give their thoughts on the British evacuation of Siam and the failure of interventionist foreign policy...”
WALLACE, JAMES: “...We’ve discussed many things here on Firing Line, but the events that have come from our British and Japanese allies across both the Atlantic and the Pacific have bought fear and apprehension to our doorstep. The announcement that all Anglo-Entente forces are to leave Siam by the end of 1976 has shaken the resolve of even the most hardened military experts…
The Dear Leader of Siam has announced that in parallel to the British withdrawal, they plan to withdraw from global affairs, essentially turning the nation into a hermit state. All diplomatic and trade relations are now cut as the last supply ships leave for British-aligned Dai Nam and Hong Kong.
The possibility of further Communalist uprisings throughout South East Asia have become a frightening reality… The recent civil unrest in Southern China and the fall of the Bharatan government to a military coup has opened up more opportunities for Communalist states to arise in both India and Cathay, which may bring a new front to the Cold War.
How does the panel see the winds of change blowing in the Western World, now that the British have withdrawn from SE Asia?
Senator Paul, you first”
PAUL, RON: “Well I think that the interventionist policies of the Liberal government in Britain have certainly driven the people against them, as you’ve seen with the latest popularity polls. Whether the war was fought for good or bad reasons is not what I’m arguing here, instead, it seems that the status quo between the British public and Westminster has been broken and the public are now a hell of a lot more comfortable with questioning the actions of their government...”
WALLACE: “So you’re saying that the anti-war protests and the subsequent withdrawal have apparently opened the eyes of the British public to the misdeeds of their own government?”
PAUL: “Yes. I know the idea of questioning one’s overlords seems to be going out of fashion, even here in the United States, but it is an ideal that must be embraced throughout the Free World...”
WALLACE: “Our very own President Agnew has stated that the Siamese War will be the very last one that the United States will be in against her will. I now ask the British ambassador to the United States, one Benedict Goldwasser, on his opinions of the strained Anglo-American Friendship.”
GOLDWASSER, BENEDICT: “The relations between our two nations have indeed been strained over this sordid war. Your President wishes to tow the line of neutrality, at the expense of internal party support, while our Prime Ministers wish to finish the fight at the expense of internal public support. I am glad that the war is over and that our men have finally gone home, but I do fear what will happen to the people of Siam at the same time...”
WALLACE: “How do you think that Anglo-American relations will be restored then?”
GOLDWASSER: “As long as we stay out of these proxy wars whilst keeping a keen eye on the Germans across the English Channel, I think we can manage going with or without the United States. What President Agnew does is his own prerogative, but if he does choose international neutrality, we may have to seek better trade and diplomatic ties with the Mexicans or even the Brazilian Empire…”
WALLACE: “A very interesting idea, Ambassador Goldwasser… Firing Line will now return after these messages...”
US Presidents List
KitFisto1997
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I've decided to revamp the US Presidents list for the third (and hopefully final) time.
The new rule of thumb I have with the butterfly effect ITTL is that anyone born prior to 1930 makes it more likely for an OTL version of themselves to appear, although there will be some people who do pop up due to the fact that they simply cannot be retconned.
I'll do a little infographic on it as soon as I'm done fixing up the British Prime Ministers list too.
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List of Presidents of the United States (1775-Present)
The new rule of thumb I have with the butterfly effect ITTL is that anyone born prior to 1930 makes it more likely for an OTL version of themselves to appear, although there will be some people who do pop up due to the fact that they simply cannot be retconned.
I'll do a little infographic on it as soon as I'm done fixing up the British Prime Ministers list too.
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List of Presidents of the United States (1775-Present)
- Benjamin Franklin (1798-1797) - Independent
- Thomas Jefferson (1797-1809) – Democratic-Republican
- James Madison (1809-1817) – Democratic-Republican
- James Monroe (1817-1825) – Democratic-Republican
- John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) – Democratic-Republican
- Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) - Democratic
- Martin Van Buren (1837-1841) – Democratic
- William Henry Harrison (1841-1841) (Died in Office) - Whig
- John Tyler (1841-1845) – Whig
- James K. Polk (1845-1849) – Democratic
- Zachary Taylor (1849-1850) (Died in Office) – Whig
- Millard Fillmore (1850-1853) – Whig
- Franklin Pierce (1953-1857) – Democratic
- James Buchanan (1857-1861) – Democratic
- Abraham Lincoln (1861-1869) – National Union
- Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877) – National Union
- Abraham Lincoln (1877-1881) (Died in Office) – National Union
- Chester A. Arthur (1881-1885) – National Union
- Grover Cleveland (1885-1889) – Democratic
- Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893) – National Union
- Grover Cleveland (1893-1897) – Democratic
- William McKinley (1897-1901) – National Union
- Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909) – National Union
- John J. Pershing (1909-1917) – Democratic
- Woodrow Wilson (1917-1921) (Died in Office) – Democratic
- Herbert Hoover (1921-1929) – National Union
- Franklin D. Roosevelt (1929-1942) (Died in Office) – Democratic
- Douglas MacArthur (1942-1945, 1945-1951) – National Union
- Harry S. Truman (1951-1961) – (Died in Office) – Democratic
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1961-1967) – Democratic
- Spiro Agnew (1967-1978) (Deposed after second coup attempt) – National Union
- Irene Rici (1978-1984) – National Union
- James Sowell (1984-1989) - National Union
- William Jefferson Blythe (1989-1992) – (Assassinated) – Democratic
- Daryl Hall (1992-2000) – Democratic
- Donald Rumsfeld (2000-2004) – National Union
- Robert Redford (2008-2012) – National Union
- Albert Gore Jr. (2012-2015) -(Incumbent) - Democratic
- Gary Johnson (2015-Present) – (President-Elect) Libertarian
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UK Prime Minister List
KitFisto1997
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Here's the British PM list, revamped.
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List of British Prime Ministers (1915-Present)
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List of British Prime Ministers (1915-Present)
- H.H Asquith (1915-1916) - Liberal
- David Lloyd George (1916-1922) - Liberal
- Stanley Baldwin (1922-1926) -Conservative
- Winston Churchill (1926-1930) - Liberal
- Neville Chamberlain (1930-1934) - Conservative
- Winston Churchill (1934-1938, 1938-1942) - Liberal
- George Haig (1942-1946) - Conservative
- Anthony Eden (1946-1950) - Conservative
- Alec-Douglas Home (1950-1954, 1954-1960) - Conservative
- Harold Wilson (1960-1964) - Liberal
- Nigel Hawthorne (1964-1966) Conservative
- Christopher Carandini (1970-1974) - Liberal
- Enoch Powell (1974-1978) - Conservative
- Ronald O’Reagan (1978-1982, 1982-1984) - Conservative
- John Marwood (1984-1988, 1988-1992) - Liberal
- Francis Urquhart (1992-2002) Assassinated - Conservative
- John Winston (2000-2004) - Conservative
- Anthony Hopkins (2004-2006) Resigned - Conservative
- Kenneth Branagh (2006-2008, 2008-2010) Resigned - Liberal
- Nigel Farage (2010-2014) - Conservative
- Nicola Sturgeon (2014-Present) - Liberal
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Declassified Guides: Gibraltar
KitFisto1997
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-- A DECLASSIFIED GUIDE TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE --
GIBRALTAR
OverviewGIBRALTAR
Gibraltar is one of the oldest and most-well-known British Overseas Territories that span the globe. The modern-day territory of Gibraltar was once a small naval base that belonged to the then-Hapsburg Spanish, until it was transferred ‘in perpetuity’ to the British Empire in 1714 at the Treaty of Utrecht. Gibraltar has since prospered under the rule of the British, serving as a major choke point for both military and commercial traffic as the territory hosts many state-owned, private and Royal Navy ports.
The Rock of Gibraltar Panopticon
The Panopticon is the new unofficial headquarters of the SIS (Secret Intelligence Service), where the foreign intelligence arm of the British government intercepts every phone call, fax or UseNet post that is available to them. After a direct attack on their old London-based HQ in 1994, MI6 was granted further powers to investigate international terrorism ‘by any means necessary’. This sudden switch from foreign espionage to tracking down terrorism meant a large amount of ‘downsizing’ was needed. The old Century House headquarters was then hastily handed over to private use as the SIS packed their bags for the sunny shores of southern Spain, choosing to hide in the numerous warrens and tunnels that were previously carved throughout the Rock of Gibraltar during the Cold War.
The modern tunnel system is often said to be an unassailable labyrinth by those that were lucky enough to escape with their lives. All elements of SIS operations are managed here, although a few ‘above ground’ bases still exist in the United Kingdom and a few overseas territories. Secret bunkers that are filled to the brim with modern and Cold War-era equipment clash with massive quantum supercomputers than can break the latest computer terminals in a matter of minutes, then there are the massive hidden hangers that hold all manner of vehicles extend from the soft limestone rock down to the harder rock that’s closest to the sea bed.
Despite the massive amount of techno-wizardry and other items of interest that dot the Gibraltar HQ, a frequent topic of discussion on both conspiracy theory UseNet sites and the UK Gov’t in Whitehall, is the massive prison complex that exists at the deepest level of the base. SIS’s reputation for extra-judicial/extra-governmental operations, extraordinary renditions and other morally dubious acts has attracted plenty unwarranted attention from both within the organisation and beyond it, but they’re all supposedly ‘in the name of the Queen and the Empire’.
Orbital Launch Facilities
Much like the previous Hong Kong entry, one will indeed notice the presence of a few spaceports that remain under the auspices of the British government, since they often double as bases for the RAF and the RN. These areas do often serve commercial traffic, but are sometimes relegated to certain time periods, making a trip over the Gibralto-Spanish Border a necessity.
Mega-Corporations
BritTech
BritTech is the dominant MegaCorp on the Rock, excluding the monolith that is the Cardini Corporation’s massive holdings in the gambling industry. BritTech was attracted to the region by the various deals that the SIS were putting out for defence contractors and the like. BritTech supplies the bulk of the computers, aircraft guidance systems and new SmartGuns™ to both the SIS and other civilian/private/government organisations on the Rock.
Cardini Corporation
The Cardini Corporation, run by ex-British Prime Minister and CEO Christopher Cardini, is a multi-national entity that mainly services the gambling industry, although some strides in the aerospace and personal defence industries have been made over the past decade or so. Cardini owns a multitude of casinos, race tracks and stadiums all over the world – although the bulk of their ‘territory’ is based in the British Empire. From the sunny shores of Gibraltar and the Caribbean Federation, where private jets, casinos and other amenities await the super rich, to the snowy peaks of Bhutan, Sikkim and Kashmir where ski resorts, sherpas and thousands upon thousands of carefully preserved native artefacts await, the Cardini Corporation is especially designed to cater to those that can afford their luxurious services.
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Deleted member 82792
Thank you.
Can you to some more write ups on the other cities of the world? Like New York, Sydney or Tokyo?
KitFisto1997
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I'll do one on Sydney next. I plan to do most of the major cities of the British Empire, like Sydney, Bombay and Lagos.
Corporate States Primer
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Corporate Extraterritoriality: An Agency Primer
Corporate Extraterritoriality is the act of a non-state actor holding the same level of political autonomy as a sovereign state or occasionally as an autonomous state within a larger sovereign entity. The history of corporate extraterritoriality goes back to the Red Bloc, wherein various ‘Industrial Collectives’, which were large plots of state-owned land, originally set aside for industrial/rural development, were established throughout the Red-side of the Iron Curtain.
The failed reforms of the Helmut Kohl government in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s ended in the hardline Communalist state taking on a softer approach to economics, as small efforts at outright privatisation ended in Western MegaCorps coming in as the German state sleepwalked to Civil War mode.
The first rumblings of this growing private intrusion into the governmental sphere was the successful purchase of the former Mexican state of Cuba (now known as Cuba Inc.) by American multinational United Tobacco in the late 1980’s. Of course, knowing how the MegaCorps operate already, the independence referendum was framed as being supposedly ‘democratic’ and ‘in the interests of the Cuban people’, although, it is often noted that all the advertising, debates and candidates were bought and paid for by the ‘Corps. Candidates with contrarian opinions were later found washed up on the shores of Guantamo Bay or even the coastline of the Hatian Empire, but any evidence was later found to have been expunged.
Cuba operates today as a borderline rogue state, with the massive Camp Omega Naval Complex, (read, massive GITMO-esque Navy base in South-Central Cuba). Replace the prison camps with massive shopping complexes and even a small amusement park for both military and on-base civillian R&R) being home to some of the more infamous Private Military Companies that operate ships and other military tech that would be at home in the British Empire’s fleet of weaponry. The island corporate state acts as the launch pad for both statist and corporate military incursions into North and South America, since the British, Americans and Mexicans have rented out various ports or sometimes even graciously ‘donated’ to them by (read, heavy rent fees and taxes apply) the Cuban Board of Directors.
A few more famous ‘Corporate States’ are Port Arthur and the Kingdom of Afghanistan. The former is a city state, located on the Liaodong Peninsula and shares a heavily armed land border with Manchuria. The history of the corporate-owned city state has an entire entry in itself, but will take some time to properly hash out.
The latter, aforementioned Afghanis meanwhile, can be crudely described as the nightmare combination of the hedonistic, drug-addled absolutism of your average Gulf Monarchy (minus the Islamist zealotry, however) and the profit-motivated zeal of a stereotypically corrupt Fortune 500 CEO. Greed is indeed considered good in the sprawling metropolis of Kabul, while the shareholders (read, uneducated peasants) toil away in the opium fields that exist just outside of the city limits. The King of Afghanistan is also considered to be the CEO of the various ‘Royal Corporations’ that exist under his belt. These corporations were established in a similar way to the old colonial corporations such as the East India Company or the Bight of Bonny Association, acting as liaisons to the various territories that were under their control, although in the case of the Afghans, territory can easily be swapped out for government ministries and even entire industries that seemingly look like they’ve been made public, as they are technically under state control, but are in fact de-jure private entities due to the dual role of the King as Monarch of Afghanistan and CEO of the Royal Corporations.
The Afghan government enjoys the friendly relations with the British Empire on the grounds that they supply both London, Bombay, Sydney and other major Indo-Pacific cities within the Empire with some of the purest opioids available on the market, all of which are used for medical uses, although some shipments have been going missing for the past few months…
Other corporate governments include:
Corporate Extraterritoriality is the act of a non-state actor holding the same level of political autonomy as a sovereign state or occasionally as an autonomous state within a larger sovereign entity. The history of corporate extraterritoriality goes back to the Red Bloc, wherein various ‘Industrial Collectives’, which were large plots of state-owned land, originally set aside for industrial/rural development, were established throughout the Red-side of the Iron Curtain.
The failed reforms of the Helmut Kohl government in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s ended in the hardline Communalist state taking on a softer approach to economics, as small efforts at outright privatisation ended in Western MegaCorps coming in as the German state sleepwalked to Civil War mode.
The first rumblings of this growing private intrusion into the governmental sphere was the successful purchase of the former Mexican state of Cuba (now known as Cuba Inc.) by American multinational United Tobacco in the late 1980’s. Of course, knowing how the MegaCorps operate already, the independence referendum was framed as being supposedly ‘democratic’ and ‘in the interests of the Cuban people’, although, it is often noted that all the advertising, debates and candidates were bought and paid for by the ‘Corps. Candidates with contrarian opinions were later found washed up on the shores of Guantamo Bay or even the coastline of the Hatian Empire, but any evidence was later found to have been expunged.
Cuba operates today as a borderline rogue state, with the massive Camp Omega Naval Complex, (read, massive GITMO-esque Navy base in South-Central Cuba). Replace the prison camps with massive shopping complexes and even a small amusement park for both military and on-base civillian R&R) being home to some of the more infamous Private Military Companies that operate ships and other military tech that would be at home in the British Empire’s fleet of weaponry. The island corporate state acts as the launch pad for both statist and corporate military incursions into North and South America, since the British, Americans and Mexicans have rented out various ports or sometimes even graciously ‘donated’ to them by (read, heavy rent fees and taxes apply) the Cuban Board of Directors.
A few more famous ‘Corporate States’ are Port Arthur and the Kingdom of Afghanistan. The former is a city state, located on the Liaodong Peninsula and shares a heavily armed land border with Manchuria. The history of the corporate-owned city state has an entire entry in itself, but will take some time to properly hash out.
The latter, aforementioned Afghanis meanwhile, can be crudely described as the nightmare combination of the hedonistic, drug-addled absolutism of your average Gulf Monarchy (minus the Islamist zealotry, however) and the profit-motivated zeal of a stereotypically corrupt Fortune 500 CEO. Greed is indeed considered good in the sprawling metropolis of Kabul, while the shareholders (read, uneducated peasants) toil away in the opium fields that exist just outside of the city limits. The King of Afghanistan is also considered to be the CEO of the various ‘Royal Corporations’ that exist under his belt. These corporations were established in a similar way to the old colonial corporations such as the East India Company or the Bight of Bonny Association, acting as liaisons to the various territories that were under their control, although in the case of the Afghans, territory can easily be swapped out for government ministries and even entire industries that seemingly look like they’ve been made public, as they are technically under state control, but are in fact de-jure private entities due to the dual role of the King as Monarch of Afghanistan and CEO of the Royal Corporations.
The Afghan government enjoys the friendly relations with the British Empire on the grounds that they supply both London, Bombay, Sydney and other major Indo-Pacific cities within the Empire with some of the purest opioids available on the market, all of which are used for medical uses, although some shipments have been going missing for the past few months…
Other corporate governments include:
- The Free Peruvian Republic
- The Republic of Bulundi (formerly the Kingdom of Burundi)
- The Merina Kingdom (A theocratic monarchy under heavy French corporate influence)
- The Cantonese Republic
- Republic of the East Indies (The last remnants of the Dutch East India Company. Mixed-Raced Protestant Indo-Dutchmen CEOs ruling Apartheid style over the Native Muslim peasants)
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Deleted member 82792
Have you done a write up for Cuba yet?
Also, maybe you should do a list of the cities/counties you've done or are planning to do.
KitFisto1997
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Cuba just got retconned from Mexican state to MegaCorp™ Paradise.
I'll have a crack at doing write-ups for Port Arthur, Cuba and that one on Sydney. BUT, a story update is coming next!