The Republicans can win 535 - just attach all the inconveniently hyper-Democratic areas to DC.
Gerrymandering US states in the name of liberalism
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The Republicans can win 535 - just attach all the inconveniently hyper-Democratic areas to DC.
So I'll freely admittedly that I'm biased since I absolutely hate the "America is not a democracy" meme, but I have trouble buying the idea that a country can have the popular vote for Mayors, City Councils, Sheriffs, School Boards, Governors, legislators both state/federal etc, and be considered a non-democracy, but directly electing the Head of State is what pushes it over into the "Democracy" label.
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HarrisonBergeron
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The same way that having a company-wide survey for the new CEO doesn’t matter when it’s the shareholders–in their proportions–who make that determination. If the Founders had wanted democracy, they would have made a democracy. If you don’t comprehend the distinction between a republic and a democracy, then... well, you’re the reason for the unconstitutional changes made to the country in the last century.
Ok. So answer this. If the *only* change made to the current American Political system is the replacement of the electoral college with a popular vote, would America suddenly become a "democracy?"
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HarrisonBergeron
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It would FULLY cease to be a republic. Our republican values have been eroded massively over the last century such that even all media and all news (never mind many of our elected officials) repeat “democracy” “democracy” “democracy” ad infinitum. The Constitution isn’t a suggestion. It is THE law, forged in blood, and by God, we’ll enforce it by that again if we have to.
HarrisonBergeron
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Of course. Bandaid for a bullet wound. The idea that undermining the republic’s system would “stop corruption” was a fucking joke when they “passed” it, and they knew it.
Ah. Well I must admit that there's certainly a lot more I can say (and ask like seconding Achaemenid Rome's question), but we shouldn't derail this thread further. If you're so inclined, we can start a thread in chat.
Yeah, a truly "strong" gerrymander would be something like this:
Sure, Clinton only wins by 4 EVs -- but every blue state goes for her by 10% or more. It'd take a Reagan to tear down that Blue Wall.
Ill have a peck at this tonight, but if it proves too complicated, I hope someone is less lazy than me. (the procrastinators mantra)
I got the Democrats down to 20 EVs without eliminating any states. I shoved a whole load of counties into DC, though.
A completely Democratic voting 2016 electoral map with only contiguous states. Hawaii and Alaska are attached to other states, though, namely Washington* and Virginia*, and Virginia* also has some random coastal counties in Washington* and one in New England*.
I'm quite proud of the glorious New York* that owns all of New England and snakes down to grab southern Louisiana (except Mississippian New Orleans) and the Old South.
Of course, like the previous all-blue USA, this one could be so easily broken it's not even funny. Honestly, if you were to do this but with half Republican and half Democratic, it would be pretty even and fair. Not even states, really, but "voting districts."
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That's some impressive gerrymandering there. Watch out you don't get asked to draw districts for the Dems and the GOP.
Yeah, that's not what that links to. It's more of a 344/123 split Dem/Rep.
Really? Because for me, it links to every county in the United States of America as part of Virginia; one state, popular vote goes for the Dems.
I've taken a screenshot to show you what I mean. (I think it's a strange thing that happens in Chrome - it happened to one of my maps before.)