D'aw shucks
Here's hoping the Sassanian-wank continues (in terms of legacy, even if the actual empire eventually falls). May the Light of the World illuminate all of Iran & Not-Iran
Map Thread XIII
- Thread starter Pragmatic Progressive
- Start date
- Status
D'aw shucks
Here's hoping the Sassanian-wank continues (in terms of legacy, even if the actual empire eventually falls). May the Light of the World illuminate all of Iran & Not-Iran
Yes
It isn't OTL border
Bourbon Kingdom of the Two Greecees sees itself as the heir of ancient Greece and hates Ruthenian kings who declared themselves the heirs of Byzantium and therefore they restored this ancient name
Constantinople
Banned
Well it's a rather brutalized China with a Turkish dynasty. China tends to be good at assimilating their rulers, but the cultural and religious impact of the Dynasty will be quite long lasting...
Constantinople
Banned
D'aw shucks
Hey you helped a lot.Here's hoping the Sassanian-wank continues (in terms of legacy, even if the actual empire eventually falls). May the Light of the World illuminate all of Iran & Not-Iran
Such an awesome turn of phrase. I love the Iranians. The legacy of Iran will be long lasting and permanent.
Well, all empires fall in time, but the Sassanids, like the Chinese OTL, might well end up something of a rise-and-fall "eternal empire", too prestigious not to revive, at least in its Iranian core.
Constantinople, that's a pretty cool scenario. Looks like most of OTL Russia might end up Turkish in this TL. One quibble: you talk of the Saxons being pushed "east" when you clearly mean "west."
I wonder if under the influence of tolerant Sassanid rule the different branches of eastern Christianity will come to be be seen as just different "schools" like the various flavors of Sunni Islam OTL, or whether they'll start slaughtering eachother again if the Sassanids drop the ball.
Will those Tang remnants be able to unify and hold off the Turks, or does it seem likely that the Gong will unify all of China? IIRC, the Turks of this era haven't quite as an effective a military edge as the Mongols a few centuries later, and it took them a long time to finish off the south...
Nice to see the Tibetan empire get some love, but its probably doomed either to end up wagged by one of its tails or break up: the Tibetans are demographically just too small a people to maintain rule over that large a territory in the long run without considerably widening the definition of "Tibetan." What's going on in Tibet religiously?
best,
Bruce
Constantinople, that's a pretty cool scenario. Looks like most of OTL Russia might end up Turkish in this TL. One quibble: you talk of the Saxons being pushed "east" when you clearly mean "west."
I wonder if under the influence of tolerant Sassanid rule the different branches of eastern Christianity will come to be be seen as just different "schools" like the various flavors of Sunni Islam OTL, or whether they'll start slaughtering eachother again if the Sassanids drop the ball.
Will those Tang remnants be able to unify and hold off the Turks, or does it seem likely that the Gong will unify all of China? IIRC, the Turks of this era haven't quite as an effective a military edge as the Mongols a few centuries later, and it took them a long time to finish off the south...
Nice to see the Tibetan empire get some love, but its probably doomed either to end up wagged by one of its tails or break up: the Tibetans are demographically just too small a people to maintain rule over that large a territory in the long run without considerably widening the definition of "Tibetan." What's going on in Tibet religiously?
best,
Bruce
Constantinople
Banned
I've had similar thoughts. The legacy of the Sassanid Iran will have a very long historical reach, much like Rome. Picking up the mantle of the Shahanshah will something many people aspire to.
Coming from you, that means a lot!
It's taken awhile to get around to doing it, but totally worth it.And yes, *Russia will be largely Turkish, and be the center of more than one significant power. Depending on how things work out, it'd be fun to see the rogue northern Slavs and Golindians survive too.
Oh shoot.
I wonder if under the influence of tolerant Sassanid rule the different branches of eastern Christianity will come to be be seen as just different "schools" like the various flavors of Sunni Islam OTL, or whether they'll start slaughtering eachother again if the Sassanids drop the ball.
That's definitely my plan, at least in the Near East, Africa and *Europe. Miaphysitism, Chalcedonianism, the orthodox Nestorians and to some extent the *Catholics will probably never be united organizationally, but, like you said, it will be more a competition between *generally* cordial schools of one religion.
In Northern *Europe, *Turkey, the Steppe and China... it will be a different story.
Christianity (in as much as we can even give it one label) is going to be both very different and significantly more widespread in the future. Europe is far from the center of Christianity, and with out that centralism, the religion is taking some rather different turns. Without Islam coming in and messing up Asian Christianities fun, it's likely that in a few hundred years, you could take a *Catholic from Burgundy, pair him up with a Celtic Christian and they'd think of each other as misguided but generally right. If you then took both of them and put them in *Turkey, they'd recognize the Christians there as Christian, but no better than heretics. If you took them and put all three in China... well all three would turn to each other, ask for forgiveness for judging them and in turn denounce the Chinese Christigristasrian as no better than a pagan.
Christianity will certainly be much more of a spectrum than it is in our timeline.
The collapse of the Tang before the Turkish invasion was pretty thorough, so it doesn't look like they'll be uniting any time soon. Whether or not they are conquered is another story. Once Gōng control is consolidated and get their roots in, it shouldn't be too difficult.
A Tibetan Empire is just too cool to pass up... but yes, it certainly can't last as it is. The recent vacuum in China and the generally divided nature of norther India has helped their longevity for now. Religiously, they're not far off where they were in OTL, but there is a rather higher number of Nestorian monks (as happened in OTL) running around, as well as a number of Manichean and Nestorian merchants and traders.
Glad you liked it! If you have anymore questions, please let me know.
Stunningly different.
(Silesia and Pomerania have been German since the 14th century at least, and it took one of the most massive deliberate population movements in European history carried out by a genocidal dictator to change this OTL. YOUR BORDER IS NOT LIKELY).
Last edited:
Stunningly different.
I'm decently sure the common people in Silesia weren't Germanised until the Counter-Reformation.
It's the consequences of the Polish-Prussian unionStunningly different.
The Prussian and Polish components may have fought a civil war. Some other country may have attacked Brandenburg while too many of the Prussian armies were busy in the east tipping the balance, or Poland may have simply won by itself and decided that, having regained its historical lands in the west, the rump Brandenburg was no longer relevant and left it to its fate.
Last edited:
Old Map of Proposed Provinces of Indonesia
Challange to you can you remake this to AH regional map?
Challange to you can you remake this to AH regional map?
This was supposed to be a reworked version of a map I made about 2 years ago, seeing that I wasn't really content with the finished product, but this turned into something different. It is inspired by a campaign I once played in a medieval grand strategy game called Crusader Kings II. I started as the rather lowly count of Artois and managed to weasel my way into controlling more or less the entire southern part of the Netherlands (And eventually the HRE). So i tried my best to translate that scenario onto this map, I did take some liberties with borders since the CKII campaign map isn't that detailed. I know the history is way off, but this was fun to make and the final result came out better then when I tried the first time around.
I want to kill this map. Aside from Leuser for Gayo people and perhaps Surakarta and the two new ones in Sulawesi, none of this make any sense.
Last edited:
Tell that to our former DPR member H. Marzuki Alie, SE, MM this is his map.
His photo with map
As you can see only 19% of Indonesian approve.
all of Maluku, Sulawesi and Nusa Tenggara make sense, Papua Barat Daya, Banyuwangi, Madura and Surakarta also make sense but perhaps those Western South Maluku Island should be transfered to Nusa Tenggara Timur and Banyuwangi should be renamed Jawa Tenggara but other than that WHY THE HELL HE CAN BE MEMBER OF DPR?
Why the hell 70% of all Indonesian MPs, both national and regional, could become MPs, for that matter ?
- Status