A Seoul-less South Korea (Mao accepts January 1951 UN cease-fire resolution)

In January 1951 the military situation for the US in Korea looked so grim that on January 13, 1951 the US voted for a UN cease-fire resolution that would have been very favorable to the Communists:

"On January 13, 1951, after the Chinese army gained victory in the third campaign by occupying Seoul, the Political and Security Committee of the UN General Assembly passed the report on the basic principles for resolving the Korean problem. The report suggested: immediate implementation of a ceasefire; holding a political conference to restore peace; withdrawal of foreign military forces in stages and organization of elections for the Korean people and making preparations for a unified Korea. Following a ceasefire, a meeting with the participation of the UK,US, USSR, and Communist China would be arranged to resolve problems in the Far East, among which would be the problems of the status of Taiwan and the representation of China in the UN. But on the basis of his assessment of the situation, Mao Zedong believed that it was possible to obtain complete victory, and therefore rejected the ceasefire proposal." Yu Xilai and Wu Zichen, "On China's Foreign Policy Strategy" in Douglas Kerr (ed.), *Critical Zone 3, A Forum of Chinese and Western Knowledge* (Hong Kong University Press 2009), p. 217. http://books.google.com/books?id=I0kvN9LDHP0C&pg=PA217 (Unfortunately, books.google.com no longer has a preview available for this book.)

"Reflecting the rank defeatism in MacArthur's headquarters, the United States voted in favor of the UN cease-fire resolution, even though it would have drawn the truce line south of Seoul and represented a stunning US defeat. Mao, however, wanted total victory. He immediately rejected the cease-fire and ordered his troops to continue their advance to the Korean Strait and the Yellow Sea..." Jay Taylor, *The Generalissimo: Chiang Kai-shek and the Struggle for Modern China,* pp. 448-9.

Note that the resolution was very favorable to the PRC not only in the location of the truce line but in the fact that the PRC would be included (along with the US, UK, and USSR) in the meeting to resolve the status of Taiwan and the representation of China in the UN--but the Republic of China would not. Chiang Kai-shek's reaction was predictable: he "called the proposed resolution that excluded the Republic of China from the projected meeting the 'most despicable and nasty' decision by an international organization in the twentieth century, and an act portending 'the doom of the world.'" Taylor, p. 448.

Mao never again got a chance for such favorable terms. On January 17, 1951--the very day Zhou Enlai officially announced the PRC's rejection of the UN plan--the extreme defeatism in the US camp began to dissipate:

"The aura of military disaster still hovered in their minds when Collins and Vandenberg departed Japan for the peninsula. But once in Korea, they found a much improved situation. After visiting numerous front line units, they reported to Washington on January 17, 1951, that the Eighth Army was far from being a defeated command, that under the leadership of Lieutenant General Matthew B. Ridgway, General Walker's successor (Walker died in a jeep accident on December 23), the army was being revitalized. They said they had found high morale and self-confidence.

"This good news was unexpected. It now appeared to the United States government that a military disaster was not in the making. The JCS study presented to MacArthur, which had outlined possible extreme American reactions, was abandoned. As confidence slowly returned, the United States moved to brand Communist China an aggressor and to initiate U.N. collective action against her...." Carl Berger, *The Korea Knot: A Military-Political History* (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press 1957), p. 133. http://www.archive.org/stream/koreaknotamilita027506mbp/koreaknotamilita027506mbp_djvu.txt Within a couple of months, Seoul was to be recaptured by US/UN forces, and was never again to be in Communist hands.

Which of course leads to the big question: What if Mao had accepted the UN cease-fire resolution in January? What would be the consequences of a South Korea even poorer and more agricultural than it was in OTL in the 1950's and of a larger and more powerful North Korea? And what would happen to Taiwan? (There would be sure to be a loss of morale there, and his partial victory in Korea might embolden Mao, and would in any event allow him to re-deploy some troops from Korea to the Taiwan Straits. OTOH, the very fact of defeat in Korea might make the US more determined than ever to hold on to Taiwan.) Finally, what are the domestic consequences in the US--if a stalemate in Korea hurt Truman politically, what would a defeat (if not quite a total one) do? (There will no doubt be GOP calls for Truman's impeachment, yet by 1952 Truman might actually be a little more popular than he was in OTL--which admittedly is not saying much--because even a bad peace might be less unpopular than a seemingly endless stalemate.)

Admittedly, it is difficult to see Mao voluntarily agreeing to stop when the situation looked so favorable for him. The only POD I can think of would be pressure by Stalin on Mao, and that in turn would be only likely if Truman had privately made some sort of drastic threat to Stalin and the latter was convinced it was not a bluff.
 
It's going to be harder for the Kim dynasty to control so many more people and territory. Unfortunately, they'll probably win control like in OTL through extreme brutality. Expect Korea to be a much more fearful, desolate place :(. This is a huge loss for the world economy.

However, Taiwan and Japan both get seriously good re-armament and economic growth packages. Japan might even be allowed to have an official military instead of a pseudo-police force with aircraft carriers ( I mean, seriously...)

An emboldened China, plus if it was "forced" to accept peace by Stalin might split from the Soviets earlier, and more dramatically too. Perhaps a highly-publicized border-war breaks out between the two near Mongolia/Manchuria.

Also there's the Indians to consider. Mao will definitely be seizing Tibet and pressing the Himalayan borders.

For the America, the Red Scare is even worse. If socialists had it bad otl, ittl persecution is going to be even worse. Plus there will be a need for a scapegoat to blame the loss on. Perhaps we might see a political sentiment arise that sounds a bit too much like fascism, though it probably won't become mainstream, just a slight radicalization of the far right.
 
It's going to be harder for the Kim dynasty to control so many more people and territory. Unfortunately, they'll probably win control like in OTL through extreme brutality. Expect Korea to be a much more fearful, desolate place :(. This is a huge loss for the world economy.
I thought that up until around the 70's North Korea was actually better off than South Korea in terms of economy? With Seoul couldn't that be even more pronounced?
 
Could anyone provide us with a map of that proposed cease-fire line in comparison to the current border and the pre-war demarcation line? That'd be practical.
 
I thought that up until around the 70's North Korea was actually better off than South Korea in terms of economy? With Seoul couldn't that be even more pronounced?

Only because the communists in general were better at post-war reconstruction and that the majority of destruction occured in the south. However in terms of innovation and growth, the communists end up lagging far behind. Today N Korea is where it was in the 80's, while S Korea is coming close to reaching parity with Western Europe... A world of difference.
 
Could anyone provide us with a map of that proposed cease-fire line in comparison to the current border and the pre-war demarcation line? That'd be practical.

I think this is it

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Best Korea will have even more capital and industry to use, and both of Korea's major cities. Would the capital even still be in Pyongyang?
 
After the Vietnam War, the DRV kept its capital in Hanoi, so it's possible a DPRK+Seoul would still have its capital in Pyongyang.

True, true. And it's closer to Russia and China and farther from the border.

Considering half of the ROK's OTL Presidents came from Gyeongsang (farthest south, western province), and considering Pusan's importance (to the war and as largest city in said province), perhaps that would be capital of the ROK.
 
After the Vietnam War, the DRV kept its capital in Hanoi, so it's possible a DPRK+Seoul would still have its capital in Pyongyang.

I don't know, on the one hand, North Korea had its official capital listed as Seoul, with Pyongyang as the provisional capital until the 70s at the earliest, IIRC. The ceasefire line there would have given NK about the same breathing room with Seoul as SK has today, so it could be feasible to move it to Seoul. On the other hand, it is quite close to the border, so who knows with the Kim Dynasty.

If South Korea continues to exist what becomes the new capitol?

Considering how close Daejon is, no Sejong City, and even Busan might be vulnerable as a coastal city if NK can get a navy together. Safest bet might be Daegu.
 
well this is interesting

any ways on what capital the rump SK would use (and there would be a SK, the US would insist on it) Busan is the second largest city in South Korea, it was the temporary capital both times Seoul was over run, its also far in the south and never fell to the Communists, and its a port, the port that the US-UN forces came in, so a large city thats in the deep south and that would serve as the hub of US forces in case of war
 
I'd say Taegu is the most acceptable capital city. Busan is just too vulnerable as a port city.
Seems I'll still be a South Korean TTL.
Most of the SK population OTL will be in SK TTL; a majority of the displaced families cited "the Chinese invasion in January" as their primary reason for escaping from their hometowns. The NK/SK war was less of a refugee crisis.
 
I'd say Taegu is the most acceptable capital city. Busan is just too vulnerable as a port city.
Seems I'll still be a South Korean TTL.
Most of the SK population OTL will be in SK TTL; a majority of the displaced families cited "the Chinese invasion in January" as their primary reason for escaping from their hometowns. The NK/SK war was less of a refugee crisis.

how is Busan vulnerable? as a port city its less vulnerable, the North Koreans and the Chinese aren't going to form major navies nor will the US give up on South Korea, and allowing SK to fall would have a dagger pointed right at the heart of Japan, and the US isn't gonna allow that, so a port city is defended by the largest Navy in History and would, again, be the hub for disembarking US troops

and if Busan was vulnerable, why did it become SK's capital when Seoul fell in OTL
 
how is Busan vulnerable? as a port city its less vulnerable, the North Koreans and the Chinese aren't going to form major navies nor will the US give up on South Korea, and allowing SK to fall would have a dagger pointed right at the heart of Japan, and the US isn't gonna allow that, so a port city is defended by the largest Navy in History and would, again, be the hub for disembarking US troops

and if Busan was vulnerable, why did it become SK's capital when Seoul fell in OTL

It was Busan because Rhee was actually planning to escape to Japan.
Everybody thought it was all over.
 
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