The Union Forever: A TL
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Nice update! I get a kick out of Venezuela's ass-hattery in boycotting the Pan-American games despite obvious and measurable partnership between the Western nations being the case instead of just "Yankee imperialism". I suppose you need to have a bed-shitter in every TL somewhere or another. At least the War on Drugs is taken seriously a bit earlier than OTL.
Also, good to see Presidential succession is finally addressed in the Constitution. And Space Attack sounds pretty awesome, I bet it'll make a ton at the arcades to boot!
Also, good to see Presidential succession is finally addressed in the Constitution. And Space Attack sounds pretty awesome, I bet it'll make a ton at the arcades to boot!
Thanks FleetMac! Yeah, the right wing government of Venezuela isn't doing itself any favors by being antagonistic with the LAR. And yes, the arcade version of Space Attack was successful as well. I will discuss the TL's video/arcade games in a future update. Cheers!
1974: Foreign Developments
1974
Foreign Developments
Indian Jet fighters bombing Begali forces near Tongi
September, 1974
Foreign Developments
Indian Jet fighters bombing Begali forces near Tongi
September, 1974
In the spring, French President Deodat Cousineau lost his bid for reelection and was succeeded by Senator Jourdain Gaëtan of the National Republican Party. In the French legislature the Socialists also lost power and were replaced by a collation of National Republicans and the rightwing populist People’s Action Party. The biggest issue facing the new government was over the political future of France’s two remaining colonies of Western and Eastern Sahara. Unlike Algeria, these two territories had never been fully integrated into the Republic. The “African question” divided French conservatives and liberals alike. While conservatives traditionally favored keeping the vestiges of empire the recent Socialist-Algerian People’s Party alliance made some worry that the inclusion of more Muslim North Africans would create a permanent leftwing majority. On the left, Socialists were divided between anti-imperialists and progressives who favored giving the region independence and realists who saw them as a useful tool in regaining control of the government. In the colonies themselves, public opinion was nearly evenly divided between independence, greater autonomy, and integration
On June 25, the United Kingdom along with its Commonwealth allies detonated an atomic bomb, codenamed Operation Tempest, at a remote location in Eastern Australia becoming the world’s fourth nuclear power.
In July, Mesopotamian King Aqil II broke ground on a massive archeological and restoration project in the ruins of Babylon. The endeavor would eventually make the location one of the premier tourist attractions in the Middle East.
On August 13, after yet another border clash, the United Republic of India invaded the neighboring State of Islamic Bengal. In a matter of weeks Indian forces overran the Bengali Army with the capital of Dhaka falling of October 4 after fierce street to street fighting. Bengali dictator Mohammad Hamid managed to flee the country and went into exile in Persia which was already furious over Indian meddling in Baluchistan, a nation Persia considered within its sphere of influence. After occupying the country, Indian leader Harshad Nanda announced that a referendum would be held in Bengal early next year to “forever decide the territory’s political status.” With the exception of Japan and India’s other allies in the Calcutta Compact, foreign reaction was decidedly pro-Bengali. British Prime Minister Vaughan denounced the attack pledging to defend Commonwealth members against any future aggression in the region and passed a sizable military aid package through parliament for the dominions of Madras, Burma, and Ceylon.
On December 11, after 15 months of intense haggling and negotiations, Prime Minister Demyan Matveev announced that an agreement had been to reach to fulfill his promised restructuring of the Russian Empire, now to be restyled the Imperial Eurasian Federation (IEF) in order to appease non-Russian ethnicities. While foreign policy and the military would still be controlled by St. Petersburg the IEF granted considerable local autonomy to the various federal regions. Elizabeth II retained the title Empress of all the Russias and served as the head of state for the IEF. Reaction to the formation of the IEF varied wildly throughout the country. In Helsinki, Warsaw, Tashkent, and Mukden jubilant crowds took to the streets to celebrate their newfound autonomy. However, in Moscow and several other predominantly Russian cities deadly riots broke out lasting several days and leaving over 120 dead.
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Very interesting Reagent, I wasn't tracking this 1867 offer. Does anybody else want to weigh in on this?
Merry Christmas everyone!
As mentioned in the last update the Russia Empire, now known as the Imperial Eurasian Federation, has granted increased local autonomy to a variety of regions. However, I would like some feed back as to what these region look like and are called. Below are two earlier maps that had been posted. What do y'all think? Feel free to submit your own. Cheers!
As mentioned in the last update the Russia Empire, now known as the Imperial Eurasian Federation, has granted increased local autonomy to a variety of regions. However, I would like some feed back as to what these region look like and are called. Below are two earlier maps that had been posted. What do y'all think? Feel free to submit your own. Cheers!
Urban/Rural
I am thinking in the major cities you have Russians, mixed ethnicities and religions in various neighborhoods surrounded by shanties from newcomers. The Russians and more educated minorities run things and the local police and army stamp on any trouble. You have most conveniences and goods similar to European stores. In the country you have to deal with the local landlords/religious clerics/clan leaders.
I am thinking in the major cities you have Russians, mixed ethnicities and religions in various neighborhoods surrounded by shanties from newcomers. The Russians and more educated minorities run things and the local police and army stamp on any trouble. You have most conveniences and goods similar to European stores. In the country you have to deal with the local landlords/religious clerics/clan leaders.
I highly doubt that the Tsarists would recognise Belarus as a separate nation - some 70% of its populace speaks Russian as a first language, and at this point you can add a significant number of Jews to that, both of which make for a very small proportion of the populace speaking Belarusian. Which, in itself, was not considered a separate language before 1917, only a particularly rustic accent.
Why might I ask? I'm not sure that the Russian's would be keen on just giving away Moldavia even to an ally.
I agree on Belarus, lets keep them part of Russia proper. Also, good call Reagent on the northern Caucasus. Can someone add them to the map? I also agree on moving Ukraine's border to the east.
Given that Moldavia is more ethnically Romanian, it would make sense to do so. After all, the area's main language is just Romanian written in Cryllic.
I have no doubt that Ukraine and Belarus will be very Russified, but it does not interfere with the Ukrainian and Belarusian nationalism. I'm more interested in the fate of Asian borderlands Russia as Russian can colonize and russifyi North Manchuria, Kazakhstan and north Kyrgystan without demographic catastrophe first half of the XX century. Russian share of the population in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan will be at least 40% and several-million Russian likely will live in Northern Persia, (OTL Russian actively migrated to Persia in the early XX century). Russian will likely be a significant part of the European population of Algeria (Russia and France quickly make friends after the Great War against the German hegemony)
I have been doing a little research and the whole Romanian v. Moldovan/Moldavian thing is really interesting. I reckon that the region (lets just call it Bessarabia to keep it simple) is speaking Romanian with a lot of Russian influence and using the Cyrillic alphabet. I think it would be political suicide for the current Russian government to cede Bessarabia to Romania as their conservative opponents are already accusing them of "giving away the empire". Also in OTL, the USSR's desire to regain Bessarabia during the 1940s illustrates that their is certainly a desire to keep the region. I think the most likely outcome is that Bessarabia just becomes an autonomous region within the IEF.
Was that 70% number the same back then? I could have sworn I read that it was a post Soviet trend to end the use of the Belorussian language and that Belarorussian outside of Belarus had a way higher rate of speaking the language?
Maybe the butterflies that form the whole basis of TTL want Bessarabia to be part of Romania. You know how much you wanted the butterflies to control TTL.
BTW, what exactly was TTL's POD?
I don't see any reason, why would Russia give away Bessarabia. It not be anything unpopulated far away Alaska.
And POD is general McClellan's fatal riding accident before battle of Antienam.
Those few autonomous areas on Caucasus are good idea. But Ingushia should be part of Chechnya. Ingushian language became independence language on 1920's. It is very possible that same not happen in TTL.
Anyway, how independence rajs of India (Hyderabad, Mysore and Travancore react for expansive India? I think that they might ask protection from United Kingdom and Commonwealth.
Very interesting. I hadn't thought about Russians living abroad in Persia. I'm not so sure there would be that many Russians living in Algeria as France and Russia aren't super close ITTL. What do you think about the North Caucasus regions in Reagent's map?
Mysore, Travancore, and Hyderabad in particular are extremely worried about expansionist India. In Hyderabad, the monarchy is waging a low grade war against REP backed insurgents. All three are seeking an offical guarantee of their independence by the British Commonwealth.