Map Thread XIV
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Islam precedes Christianity ITTL, with Islam being spread around widely before Christianity came up. Hence the Islamic Celts.
How would Islam be started if Christianity came up later? With butterflies and all, a scenario like this would most likely mean no Muhammad to start said religion.
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Ah, this is a reverse history game though. The concept here is that everything from 2014 happens as OTL, but everything before that happens differently.
There's lots of structures and works that exist as in OTL, but there are various subtle changes from OTL, for instance: Shakespeare's works are significantly different, contain some alternate history elements, and were written by a Jewish playwright named Frank Becker who used the pen name "Shakespeare" in the 1940's.
Guess the (rather vague) POD
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Fascist Britain and USA in edition to Germany, with Italy thrown under the backpedal?
Nearly. Divine intervention informs the WAllies of the threat that is communism, and hesitantly ceasefire with the Axis powers. Turkey is bribed into the war, and the WAllies fund revolts and independence movements around Central Asia. The USSR experiences a swift and efficient turn in power, Stalin gets shot during a speech and an emergency governmental council grabs the strings. Communists seize New Delhi (which is not seen on the map). Heavy machinery pours through Afghanistan and drags the WAllies into direct conflict.
Japan is just happy sailing up and down the Lena, poking soviet bodies with long sticks.
In the US, a sort of fashion craze arises: maybe they could redeem the harm they did to the Amerindians by liberating the indigenous Chukchi peoples from the soviet oppression.
The soviets marching into Pskov were met with a few hand grenades and an array of insults, surprisingly in Russian.
As Ostland is collapsing under the soviet bear, a surprising ally is found from across the Baltic.
In Finnish-occupied Karelia, the Swedes are making significant progress... into friendly territory. These battalions are effectively led by a warlord and respond to no-one. They are going into the generally right direction, which of course is nice.
The war on the Coastal Caucasus is going significantly worse for the Allies, Britain is barely holding onto it's strips of land. Rostov is under heavy aerial attacks and the soviet forces loom at the distance. Fortunately, vast ranks of Ukrainian nationalists have formed the ULF and are slowing down the grinding progress of the soviets.
Amongst all the chaos, Mongolian Liberation Army has marched into Ulan Bator. All Chinese requests for cooperation are met with a "Nah, we got this." A new wave is forming around Irkutsk and has started to cross the Mongolian border.
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So this is an ASB scenario then? I was a bit confused by the original wording. I guess Hitler gets a lease on life for his extermination projects in this case.
This map is based on a completed EU4 game where I released all nations from France, and then played as Aquitaine (which I modified from Guyenne).
At the dawn of the Industrial Age, the King of Aquitaine presides over an empire upon which the sun never sets. The triple ideals of God, Gold, and Glory beat in the hearts of countless ambitious young men in the lands of Aliénor. The Crusader mentality remains strong still, and after the conquest of India, the King in Brageirac eyes hungrily at new opportunities to bring light of Christ and civilization to the unwashed primitives the world over.
The sororal Catholic empires of Aquitaine, Spain, and Portugal together compose the world's most formidable power block. With the encroachment of the Mohammedan threat upon Christendom, talks of coalition between the West and Lithuania may finally come to fruition.
At the dawn of the Industrial Age, the King of Aquitaine presides over an empire upon which the sun never sets. The triple ideals of God, Gold, and Glory beat in the hearts of countless ambitious young men in the lands of Aliénor. The Crusader mentality remains strong still, and after the conquest of India, the King in Brageirac eyes hungrily at new opportunities to bring light of Christ and civilization to the unwashed primitives the world over.
The sororal Catholic empires of Aquitaine, Spain, and Portugal together compose the world's most formidable power block. With the encroachment of the Mohammedan threat upon Christendom, talks of coalition between the West and Lithuania may finally come to fruition.
Well, it's a vague POD, but not really an ASB scenario, although a very unlikely one.
To the west, Hitler seems like your run-of-the-mill racist dictator, but not yet a genocidal one. The holocaust is still very much unknown, and the Germans are tackling with how to conceal and/or inform the Allies of this.
Hitler has been already condemned to life in prison, but remains in power for now under the Wartime Urgency Act. The WUA has made the UK a churchillian dictatorship, and has planted a British ambassador as the Führer's advisor and supervisor.
Berlin is greatly annoyed by this.
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I wanted to play in a different way with the map template I use, and this, heavily inspired by the AquaNox series, emerged.
Is there much space travel here?
EOPS...
Pretty much this.
Pretty much the only thing that's the same ITTL compared with IOTL is the 2013 (the year the game was posted) map, and things that exist. Anything referencing history is altered slightly. This encompasses things from history books, to gravestones, to simple things like Google search results and Wikipedia article contents.
I bet if you googled "Adolf Hitler" ITTL you'd find a few random obscure Facebook profiles or university professors, but googling "Albrecht Filip Holtz" would result in a lengthy Wikipedia article.
Indeed. Similar changes to historical figures from OTL include:
J. R. R. Tolkien was a Latvian priest in the 15th century.
Cleopatra was a great Roman Emperor in the 13th century.
Alexis Tsipras was a Roman Emperor in the 14th century.
And the countries and subnational polities in TTL's present day, while the same as in OTL, had very different origins. For example, Ethiopia is the direct successor state of the Roman Empire. Florida only became a US state a few years ago, and used to be a large Hispanophone state covering much of the Carribean. The present-day US states of Arizona and New Mexico are, I think, the successor states of the Aztec Empire, which had westernized. I'm sure there are lots more strange examples like this
As for the origins of Islam and Christianity. I don't think we've definitively worked out how that happened, since the game hasn't reached that point yet, but one possibility is that Jesus was mentioned as a prophet in the Quran as in OTL, but the religion of Christianity was founded centuries after his death.
Also, that TL's Ayn Rand was a Soviet Chairperson, according to CannedTech's leader list.
Most of a year has gone by since the Canadians dragged (most of) the Entente Nuclear Project into Russia at gun point. The Russian almost have it figured out, but are running low on Uranium. Also following an accident were several workers were exposed to (just barely) lethal levels of radiation and slowly wasted away many Russian scientists have begun to wonder if these weapons are worth the horror they would inflict. Maybe a conventional victory is possible?
China is all but liberated. Japan has been bombed with enough conventional bombs that there's debate as to whether anything is worth Atomizing (as the new weapons are being refered to). Indian is liberating itself. . . very messily. The Entente are mostly in full collapse across Africa, only South Africa and their Australian comrades are adding troops as the Europeans pull soldiers back for the defense of the metropoles. The invasion of the Poe Valley is about to begin, and that will hopefully knock Italy out of the war. Sadly the Alps guard France's southern flank, while a massive web of fortifications (many of which were German built and repurposed to face the other way) has resisted Russian bombers.
There are fears about Communism though. Iberia is already rocked by partisans, the poorest of the Entente regions Communism was long quite popular there. The North Atlantic Fleet, fresh off the American assembly lines, just struck a surprising victory against the Royal Navy allowing for the invasions of Newfoundland and Greenland. The Reds might have been good for bleeding the Entente, but Moscow wants to keep them on the other side of the Atlantic(/Pacific, gosh darn Alaska is too close for comfort, and the crushing victory of the Pacific Fleet over the IJN at Hawaii has made that ocean nearly as tense).
Maybe the Nukes are needed. (Or maybe the Entente could be offered conditional surrender? The Germans would be outraged though...)
Brazil is happy. Brazil is strong.
China is all but liberated. Japan has been bombed with enough conventional bombs that there's debate as to whether anything is worth Atomizing (as the new weapons are being refered to). Indian is liberating itself. . . very messily. The Entente are mostly in full collapse across Africa, only South Africa and their Australian comrades are adding troops as the Europeans pull soldiers back for the defense of the metropoles. The invasion of the Poe Valley is about to begin, and that will hopefully knock Italy out of the war. Sadly the Alps guard France's southern flank, while a massive web of fortifications (many of which were German built and repurposed to face the other way) has resisted Russian bombers.
There are fears about Communism though. Iberia is already rocked by partisans, the poorest of the Entente regions Communism was long quite popular there. The North Atlantic Fleet, fresh off the American assembly lines, just struck a surprising victory against the Royal Navy allowing for the invasions of Newfoundland and Greenland. The Reds might have been good for bleeding the Entente, but Moscow wants to keep them on the other side of the Atlantic(/Pacific, gosh darn Alaska is too close for comfort, and the crushing victory of the Pacific Fleet over the IJN at Hawaii has made that ocean nearly as tense).
Maybe the Nukes are needed. (Or maybe the Entente could be offered conditional surrender? The Germans would be outraged though...)
Brazil is happy. Brazil is strong.
a WIP map based off of just doodling. Maybe I'll make a backstory, though...
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I'd hate to be a New Zealander right about now, it must be a terribly depressing show no matter which side you root for.
Very interesting, looks like tri(or maybe quad)polar cold war. Will be very interesting
Dear me. German-leaning French in the Americas and French Somaliland, the Americans, British, and Germans allowing the Turks to take the Armenian and Georgian areas despite past religious issues and genocide, the French and British courting Syria, the Turks getting Hatay and a bit of northeast Syria, as well as occupying northern Iraq for some reason.... Must be a lot of twists and turns with this POD. Especially given the partition of the Norwegian and Danish areas and the pink around Alsace-Lorraine. I am thinking there may be some tenseness here between the Germans and British, otherwise their would be a massive joint fleet of ships sent by the Dutch, French, Portuguese, Americans, Germans (get colonies back from Japan or support Chinese/European allies) to take down the Japanese.
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