八紘一宇 - Hakkō Ichiu

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fjihr said:
That Mongol Khanate is literally awesome.
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Praetor98 said:
Perhaps now his majesty's military will remember that the orders of the Emperor are absolute.
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Hahahahaha

Knightmare said:
Fat chance, at this rate, they're going to need even more smackdowns before they get the hint.
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Basically this. The IJA thinks that the Emperor is being pressured by the civilian government and that he is being silenced without right. The IJN has drifted more into the 'civilian government' camp, particularly once the Navy realized that there's more money to be had if they play nice.

Johannes Parisiensis said:
How is administred the place? OTL, given how unstable was von Ungern, I don't think the entity might survive to his creator.
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It's an Empire built on slavery, death and religious zealotry. So... you may be right.

Johannes Parisiensis said:
Could Japan and other Chinese factions support internal actors (OTL, a Vietnamese equivalent of the KMT was created)? Has Ho Chi Minh helped to found the French Communist Party, as OTL?
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Uncle Ho returned from Communist France in 1923 to stir up revolution. He's in the employ of Paris, and nobody's happy about that. However, he, along with many other Vietnamese nationalists, are debating the merits of approaching Tokyo for assistance.

Johannes Parisiensis said:
OTOH, given how weak is France, they might do like they did back in the OTL 1940.
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^^

Praetor98 said:
I think a direct dressing down from the Emperor himself ought to do it. I mean imagine, the Imperial Army standing there and suddenly hear the booming voice of the Emperor coming out onto the court, or perhaps even quiet. Then they know. Their god is furious with them.
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HonestAbe1809 said:
I don't think that their Emperor needs to shout to properly express his disapproval. I personally think the chilled steel of tranquil fury is much more intimidating than the Emperor yelling his head off. The Emperor doesn't need to raise his voice for people to listen to him.
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Praetor98 said:
He would never raise his voice, not once. But that will be the worst thing. The wrath of the Emperor.
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The Emperor, right now, wouldn't do that. It's too... beneath his stature to involve himself like that. It would take extraordinary circumstances to force him to break the Imperial serenity.

Xianfeng Emperor said:
And so Yuan's Dynasty was replaced by a reborn Yuan Dynasty;)
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Knightmare said:
Only issue is, well, IIRC, nobody ever really heard the man in person.

It's not like in the US where say, FDR did weekly speeches. So they might not recognize his voice if he does a radio announcement....
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Praetor98 said:
That will be quite simple to solve. Have the Emperor make a speech before the Army. Bring the Kwantung Army home to come on the parade if you want.
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It will be a really big deal if Hirohito directly addresses people, as that has never been done before. Remember that OTL, the first time Japanese people heard their Emperor's voice was during his surrender in 1945.
 
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It will be a really big deal if Hirohito directly addresses people, as that has never been done before. Remember that OTL, the first time Japanese people heard their Emperor's voice was during his surrender in 1945.
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All the better! Let the first time the Army hears it's Emperor's voice be one of stern rebuke. Let's see him be a bit more like the EOM and lead his men.
 
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'Literally best day ever for Japan', 1939
 
18. The Invasion
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    18. The Invasion

    'The resistance didn't disappear, it simply changed tactics.'
    - Mao Tse-tung, The Great Struggle (1925-1947), published in 1975
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    For the Geser Khan, it was nigh time to begin striking fear into the hearts of his enemies. Since the defeat of the Imperial Yuan Army, the Khan had been training his troops, gathering materials seized from the Imperial Armories, and preparing for his next wave of invasion. Many anti-Tatiana and anti-Bolshevik officers and soldiers were flocking to the Mongol Khanate from Russia to fight against international communism and 'Jewish infiltration'. This gave the strength of the Mongol armies to be able to throw their weight around, particularly as fighting methods utilized by the Russians went into practice, which gave them a leg up on the Chinese warring states, whom largely resembled many ragtag militias. The 'Great Struggle' is said to have begun with the fall of the Yuan Dynasty, as the events that followed threw much of East Asia into a panic.

    After that, came the Anti-Japanese Movement in the Qing Empire. While Japan had been an unbelievably kind patron for the Qing Empire's elite, the citizenry that dotted the Qing state's territories were less amicable towards Japanese competition, military assets, and the effort Japan had put into shaping China. As a result, the Mongols were able to exploit the anti-Japanese sentiment to create a casus belli to invade the Qing Empire. After riotous anti-Japanese militants began to riot and march across the Qing Empire's rural provinces, Geser Khan ordered his troops to 'restore order' to the troubled Qing Dynasty.

    The Qing Dynasty, to it's credit, had been making progress towards changing. Puyi was an ever-fickle character, but the Advisory Council that helped him govern was growing increasingly powerful. After the Week of Discipline deeply distracted Japan's military strength for several years, and knock-on effects allowed for Puyi to purge disloyal officers from his ranks. Soldiers and other disgruntled officers participated in the invasion, defecting to Geser Khan in the opening salients.

    Japan was startled and thrown off by the sudden push of Mongol troops into China, repeating history that had taken place seven centuries prior. Within a month, Mongol cavalry was penetrating into the urban streets of Peking, rampaging like savages. While unable to save the Qing monarchy from it's impending destruction, Japanese military attaches coordinated an escape of the Manchurian ruling family to the Qingdao Peninsula, and orchestrated a Japanese invasion-and-reinforcement via Qingdao, which had been taken by Japan in the Great War. At the same time, Japan and the Far-Eastern Republic launched their own pacification of Manchuria, and forced Zhang to agree to capitulate to the Far-Eastern Republic. While Japan occupied a large chunk of southeastern Manchuria, the remainder of the interior was integrated under the FER, expanding it's base of power, and giving it the ability to strengthen itself.

    After the Qing Empire collapsed in the wake of the Mongol invasion, it seemed that only Mao and his cadre of Republicans would be able to preserve China. However, the Mongols turned their attention and marched south--this time facing larger opposition from the more mobilized militia of the Revolutionary Army. By mid-1927, the Republic was faltering against the hammerblows of the Mongol Empire, whom was wearing the Chinese Republic thin in terms of supplies and manpower, despite Japanese assistance. In January 1928, as Japan orchestrated the evacuation of Mao and several high-ranking Republican figures out of the country. After Guangzhou was plundered by the Mongol armies, the Japanese, having secured several outposts, including Hainan, began the process of coordinating the 'Co-Prosperity Sphere', with the goal of emancipating Asia.

    The first meeting was between Mao Tse-tung and Jiang Jieshi in 1928, which would form the basis of the formation of the Provisional Government of the Chinese Nation; with the goal of liberating China from the grasp of the Mongols. This motion marked the start of Inukai's government's attempts to draw the Chinese resistance over to their side in a friendly manner.

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    The final push of the Mongol troops before they were stopped, was an attempt to seize Indochina. They managed to push into the northern regions of the French colony, but the international reaction against their rapid conquest of China lead to an intervention by the IJN, RN and USN against them. This caused the Mongol armies to halt their invasion, with the French Indochina colony falling into disarray as the Siamese crossed the border to safeguard their territorial claims.

    Britain and Japan, on their parts, divided the remainder of the colony between themselves, co-opting the native leadership and the French colonists. Japan, on their part, allowed for Bao Dai, the 16 year old Emperor of Annam, to take full control of his territory under the Japanese framework, becoming a protectorate of Japan. He was also made Emperor of Khmer under this same framework, becoming the de-facto 'Governor-General' of the Japanese Indochina colony.

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    China and bordering territories in 1929
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    Despite the intervention of foreign forces that forced the Mongols to stop their invasions, the Mongols had clearly shown their ability to deliver a lot of fighting to the hearts of the other nations. Chinese spoils of war were common, with mausoleums of past monarchs and President Sun Yat-sen being violated and ransacked by the undisciplined Mongols. Despite his hatred of communism, the Khan seized people's lands, money and possessions left and right, distributing them to his most loyal officers and generals. But it would be obvious that for Japan, there was no other nation to hate more than Mongolia.

    Mongolia would pay for her warmongering.

    In the newly conquered Manchurian territories, along with the prior conquest of Vladivostok, were integrated under the Governor-General of Korea, with the Japanese leadership reducing the power of the native Manchus and giving 'vacant land' taken from 'traitors and Mongol collaborators', to both Koreans and Japanese--with Koreans being more numerous than Japanese, with the intent of strengthening loyalists amongst the Koreans.

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