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  1. What if Georg Conrad Morgen had managed to expose the Holocaust?

    SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Georg Conrad Morgen was the chief investigator and prosecutor in a number of trials against death-camp commandants. According to him, he was trying to use the little judicial maneuvering space afforded him in order to expose the holocaust, by forcing the Nazi...

  2. What if the UK had invaded Sweden and Norway, as planned, in 1940

    What would that have changed. Would Norway and Sweden join Britain, or would they try to resist the invasion and side with the Germans in the war? What would in either case the consequences have been for the future of the war? The following sentences are extracted from a book-chapter by...

  3. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    If through some miracle the coup succeeded, the new government would have tried to negotiate for surrender-terms. They still had a lot of territory to bargain with. This is the situation in August 1944. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1944-08-01GerWW2BattlefrontAtlas.jpg The Western...

  4. The Phoney War

    Well, no, no sources on the economic calculations. I have a related source from the battle for France though, relating to the air war. It seems the UK felt it was economically better to lure the Germans into a strategic city-bombing war rather than to fight them head-on in the battlefield...

  5. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I do think it would have happened. The dismemberment of Germany had been pretty much decided already in November/ 1 December 1943 at the Teheran conference, even if they did not publish any "official statement" about it. A German surrender in 1944 would not have changed their plans. At Teheran...

  6. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    An alternative way to break the Nazi system open I think a better question is, what if the SS prosecutor Georg Conrad Morgen had succeed in bringing Adolf Hitler to trial/exposing the Holocaust? I think this would have stood a better chance of completelly changing the timeline. If the...

  7. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I don't think he included the Jewish Poles when he said Poles, only ethnic Poles. Poland has a long history of antisemitism, much worse than Germany until the Holocaust changed things. You had massacres of Jews in Poland after the Holocaust, for example in Kielce...

  8. The Phoney War

    Look at the map of colonies in 1945. The UK and France had a huge superiority in resources over Germany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colonization_1945.png The cheapest way for them to win the war was to simply strangle Germany, as they had done with the naval blockade in World War I...

  9. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I think the Ethnic Cleansing would have happened anyway. Both the West and the East were in favor of it. The West set it in motion since it would weaken a future Germany, and "compensate" Poland (that they still hoped would be in their camp after the war) for the loss to the Soviet Union of its...

  10. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I don't know if they were Nazis, but there were certainly Jews in the Nazi Wehrmacht. http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html And there are/were Jewish Nazis in Poland. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/23/poland.jewish/ And there are Nazis in Israel today...

  11. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I think we should consider here that that Haaretz is hardly a neutral source. For example they state the following as fact: "A 2005 statement by Ahmadinejad saying that "Israel should be wiped off the map" outraged the international community." If you look closer you will find that that is a...

  12. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I admit this is not my field of expertise (and I admit that I was wrong about the hyperinflation), but when exactly are you claiming that reparations ended? The Hoover Moratorium was not approved by Congress until December 1931. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Moratorium The Lausanne...

  13. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    If by "Hitlers book" you refer to Mein Kampf, that is a rambling monologue about his ideology that you can not use as blueprint for anything related to foreign policy. He didn't say there that he was going to kill the Jews either. You probably don't know this, but one of the reasons so many...

  14. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    Here you will find a table of the number of votes the Nazis got over the years. (quite a bit down)http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERnazi.htm In the last free election, November 1932 (in the 1933 election the Nazis were already in control), the number of people voting for the Nazi party...

  15. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    I'm not necessarily saying that but probably yes, if the Allies had wanted to end the war (and Holocaust) sooner they should have offered the Generals a peace they could live with, at least a peace where they could see a future for their people even if they themselves would hang or go to prison...

  16. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    Thank you both. I needed to think a bit, but I think you can find a connection. One is connected to the unconditional surrender and the known conditions that would follow. It has been argued that unconditional surrender discouraged some of German generals from making a coup who might otherwise...

  17. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    "clearly didn't implement"? Didn't you read the sources above? Starting something and then stopping it one or two years later is definitively not the same as never starting it at all. Since the Holocaust was started (in 1941?) but then halted in 1945 (before it could be fully completed), does...

  18. Could the Holocaust been avoided?

    Actually its funny that you bring up black occupation troops. Actually they discovered that they were better treated in Germany than in the U.S., it might even have led to the black awakening and civil rights movement. http://www.atlantic-times.com/archive_detail.php?recordID=1706

  19. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    :confused::confused::confused::confused: The Morgenthau plan was adopted, and even signed, by booth Roosevelt and Churchill at the Quebec conference in 1944 late. You only need to look up the records...

  20. If the July 20th Plot Had Succeeded...

    Germans in U.S. hands and handed over to France The Americans sent hundreds of thousands of German POWs to slave labor in the Soviet Union. Technically their death-toll in Russia should be credited to the U.S. death account: Edward N. Peterson: "The American Occupation of Germany", pp 116...
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