Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes III

[Prussian1871]

Weren't the Liberals all for some form of Proportional representation back in the 80s?

Indeed they were. If you're referring to my wikiboxes, I didn't take account for policies either such as PR, just voting percentages. I'm sure the Libs would push for PR, especially because during the Kennedy years they get twice the vote as Labour but about the same seats.

 

[machinekng]

So, as part of the revisions, here's a pair of my music infoboxes. The main revision here, in both cases, is the album cover. I kinda cut-n-paste too much, so I made the new ones with the kind of artwork, but I actually made itself this time.

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That's all Folks! was the second studio release by Russian folk-hop/hard folk band Omck. Even with the album's fairly quick production and release, Omck showed a remarkable evolution in their sound in their sophmore album. While Welcome To... could be described as a rough and cynical, That's all Folks! is sickly bright and upbeat. The band's Grumd baseline was softened and played at a faster tick, allowing for a more bouncy beat that helped highlight rapper Lukyan K.'s acerbic humor. Even though the band's sound became brighter, they still clung to the black humor and self-destructive nihilism characterizing Krok-hop. That's all Folks! also marked Omck's foray into political satire. While Welcome To... had focused on life in the Russian ghetto, That's all Folks! took stances highly critical of the New Bolshevik government, mocking the inability to deal with terrorism and arson in "Moscow's Burning, Must Be Monday," looking at state-sponsored torture in "Scream With Joy," criticizing the corporate media in "Tomorrow's Script" and attacking monarchist militants in "He is Our Only." Omck's decision to make jabs at almost every power player in Russia may have been popular with their fans and the public in general, but the resulting threats has forced the band to tread lightly. After an attempted lynching by pro-government militiamen, Omck hasavoided live performances in their home country. Still, they enjoy popularity both in Europe and China, and have plans to conduct a Pan-Africa tour in 2069.

"Like a playa' piano/you're on a roll.
Got sixteen keys/not an ounce of soul."

Sixteen Keys was mOS's (Marcus Parker) first release following his ejection from the Peachtree Gospel Choir. The release was a return to Parker's Folk Hop roots and his readoption of the MC mOS stage name. Marcus Parker had primarily been involved with Historicist Gospel acts in the late '50s and early '60s, singing with the Suntown Gospel Choir between 2058-2062 and singing with the Peachtree Gospel Choir between 2061-2064. However a dispute over the choir's creative direction caused Parker to fired by the director. Following this incident, he ended up signing with Folk Hop legend Uriel's (Lana Daniel) Pinnacle Records. Daniels involvement with the single's writing and production, as well as the album's, was not particularly unexpected, both due to her friendship with Parker, and her public distaste of the Historicist movement and Municipalism in general. While the track is a diss aimed at former colleagues, it was also deeply political. While the hook and first verse deal with artistic frustration, the following verses are primarily attacks against on the Atlanta Municipalist movement, railing against its radical conformism and disdain for progress. These lyrics were a shock to many of Parker's neighbors and colleagues, who had known him as a life-long community leader and member of the Municipal Party. While Marcus's former colleagues in the Peachtree Choir refused to comment, party-aligned blogs and sites condemned the track, criticizing both the rushed production and inflammatory verses. The local furor did, however, launch the track into public consciousness, and the song peaked at #17 on the Billboard charts.

Casual listeners who were not familiar with Atlanta politics or historicist gospel have since mis-characterized it as having anti-synth themes. While the hook's player piano metaphor is aimed at Historicist music's slavish adherence to traditional sounds, the player piano metaphor was cemented in U.S. pop culture by Enzo Collin's The Player Piano: The Comedy of Our Age, which used it as a symbol of automation and synthetic intelligence. The song became particularly popular among Terminator sub-culture, and one can still find user-made music videos on Shouf! playing the song to images of synthetic killings. Marcus Parker clarified this point in an interview with Groove Zine, insisting that "[he] bear no ill will towards our silicon sisters and metal brothers." While Parker has condemned the controversial videos as snuff porn and demanded their removal, Shouf! turks and auto-censors have never been able to completely remove them.

 

[Glide08]

The Local Government Structure of that Alternate Israel.

 

[Lavanya Six]

Inspired by @Nofix's run of video game wikiboxes...

The Nintendo Play Station, while a masterpiece of engineering on a technical level, was hobbled throughout its lifespan by corporate squabbling between Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo favored the more profitable (for it) cartridge-based SNES, and encouraged its third party developers to stick with it via tepid marketing support for their CD games. Sony's workarounds resulted in several marketing campaigns that seemed aimed almost as much at Nintendo itself as rival Sega. While Sony's future in the industry seemed uncertain, most sided with Nintendo's cartridge format despite the comparatively smaller per-unit payoff, given its vastly higher install base. Yet the advantages of the CD format tempted many with the resources to experiment.

Secret of Evermore was the first game developed by Square's North American branch, and the staff was given a great deal of freedom to craft an RPG that could appeal to Americans. Seiken Densetsu 2, marketed outside of Japan as Secret of Mana, had begun Square's involvement with the Nintendo Play Station, so it was perhaps appropriate that Square's final game published for the Nintendo Play Station peripheral (outside of Japan, at least) would take many cues from that forgotten masterpiece. The "ring" battle system commonly associated with the Evermore series is, as tirelessly pointed out by Japanophiles online, copied wholesale from Mana, although few gamers in the 1990s or early 2000s realized this, given the CD-only Secret of Mana's infamously low sales figures. Evermore also continued the tradition of Mana for striking music, thanks to then-newcomer composer Jeremy Soule.

Evermore followed Square's Japanese release of Final Fantasy VI, which, owing to Japan's larger install base for the Play Station, had been released in dual formats unlike its (much-reduced) cartridge-only North American version. Evermore debuted in North America and Europe in dual formats. Due to the smaller budget allotted to its development compared to Square's flagship series, the CD version lacked major gameplay differences from the cartridge-version. Instead, Evermore's CD version distinguished itself with higher quality music, more advanced sprite animation, and voice acting. With a cast of no-names headlined by Mark Hamill as the appropriately nameless protagonist (often referred to as "you" or "kid" or "son" in dialogue), Secret of Evermore's unusually good voice acting (for the 1990s) and tendency to incorporate ad-libbed lines contributed much-needed color to an otherwise uninspiring video game plot. Those lines were then added, in occasionally truncated form due to space considerations, to the cartridge-format version's script. The crafting system, while primitive compared to later iterations of the Evermore series, also drew note.

The cartridge-based sales figures for Secret of Evermore were decent if unexceptional, given RPGs had yet to break through in North America, but the impressive performance on the then-morbound Play Station delighted Square's home office in Japan. Secret of Evermore also won several "Game of the Year" awards in gaming media, and was a contender for that title in most publications, mainly on the strength of the CD-version's voice acting and superior sprite graphics.

 

[MatthewFirth]

The Local Government Structure of that Alternate Israel.

With or without Palestine?

 

[Callan]

The Protectors! was an award-winning comedy show that aired in the early-1990s. A spoof of the spy-thriller genre popular post-Second Great War, the show is well-known for quick-fire dialogue, sight gags, wordplay and non-sequiturs, as well as depicting much satire of current events. The show follows "The Protectors", an elite unit of London-based spies dedicated to "preserving the sanctity of order". (One of the many running jokes is the fact that who The Protectors work for is never established; at various points in the series they take missions many different organisations and officials, including the Deputy Prime Minister, the Chinese Embassy and the Ford Motor Company). Typical plots have the Protectors assigned to deal with international espionage, political and corporate intrigue and in one episode an Agatha Christie-esque murder mystery at a country house.

The show was the first big hit for comedian Charles Oppenheim, who was one of the lead writers and starred as Kevin Dryden, the main lead throughout all three seasons and three films. The show also launched the careers of many other aspiring actors and comedians, including Sarah Hayes, Richard Blythe and Milind Verma. Verma and Oppenheim are the only two main cast members to appear in all three seasons and all three films.

The TV series garnered critical acclaim, with tight writing and sharp satire making up for initially tight budgets. It is widely credited for setting off the "satire boom" of the 1990s that revived British comedy and spreading it to wider audiences. While some of its humour and subject matter was often on the borderline for the mainstream of the conservative 1990s (it was the first comedy to broadcast a same-sex kiss in the Commonwealth, for instance), it was intensely popular at the time and has generated a cult following.

The Protectors II: On Common Ground was the second of the three films in The Protectors! series. The film has The Protectors assigned to guard the international dignitaries at a global peace summit being held in East London. Kevin Dryden, forcibly retired after the events of the first film, returns to London after finding evidence that there is a corporate conspiracy to sabotage the summit via mind control and kidnappings.

The film is widely regarded as the best of the three Protectors films, but was controversial at the time due to its satirical and occasionally libellous depictions of real life world leaders such as then-Commonwealth Prime Minister Thomas Caro and U.S. President Thomas Cafferty (who is eventually revealed to be an android). Infamously, the film ends with then-Commonwealth President Ellen Heseltine being pushed off a balcony by Kevin Dyden, who then rips off her skirt in an attempt to rescue her.

But By Report
Allan Bertram
Henry IX and President Leo Amery
Major Political Parties in the Commonwealth
Thomas Caro
Ireland
First and Second Great Wars
London-Leo Amery and Commonwealth Airways

 

[Utgard96]

The vibe I'm getting off that is Airplane! meets the later period of The Avengers. Which sounds like some of the most eminently watchable shit I've ever heard of.

 

[That Jersey Guy]

So I did a US House election (2014) and did it under D'Hondt Party List PR, sort of like Euro Parliament Elections with the regions being each state. I Included the Conservative and Working Families of NY as not cross endorsing the Republicans/Democrats, as they realize this system can help them electorally (In which it does)

 

[Glide08]

With or without Palestine?

That Israel has given Palestine Independence, so....

 

[Steve Brinson]

Taking something of a break from Divided Against Itself, here's another wikibox from @Turquoise Blue's Blue Flames Burn Brightest:

 

[shiftygiant]

Can we have one for Tim Collins?

Ask and ye shall receive (in due course).

Thanks for the advice.

I know Roy Jenkins was PM designate, but if the Libs had more MPs (which they probably would in this scenario) they could have had the leverage to move Steel as Prime Minister. It would probably have gotten a bit messy, though. Also I just used the OTL leaders here (which is why the Tories shift leaders so many times for no reason and Blair and Kinnock stay on so long even though they do badly).

Well, the risk if the Liberals pull a coup and tear the agreement up is that nothing really stops the SDP's bailing, leaving Steel running a minority Goverment with Cabinet Ministers who have never been in Cabinet, and some who have never been in Parliament. At this point, Steel would have two options- go in with the Tories, which he personally opposed and often fought with Owen over, and would ultimetly split the base quite hard over, or go with Labour, which was a more preferably option given the prior history of Lib-Lab Supply and Confidence. This falls apart thanks to the internal turmoil of the Party, and the very real potential Labour has to just crumble into nothing but a Bennite splinter and the Modernizer. Far more likely is that you see the SDP threaten to depart and offer to join a Coalition Goverment with Tories if Steel pulled rank like that.

 

[Tom Colton]

The Fall of the Commodian Empire (index)

Ummidia Cornificia Faustina

Ergo, Mrs. "I have no dialogue then get crucified" from Gladiator.​

Ummidia Cornificia Faustina [1] (141-182) was a Roman noblewoman of the late 2nd century, a niece of the emperor Marcus Aurelius and wife of the general and tyrannicide Decimus Aelius Meridius Maximus (link to post). Ummidia was complicit in a failed plot organised by Lucilla, her cousin and the sister of Marcus' successor Commodus, to assassinate Commodus and replace him with Lucilla's second husband, the ex-consul Tiberius Claudius Pompeianus, and was first exiled then executed on the island of Capri in its aftermath.

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Early life

Ummidia was born to Annia Cornificia Faustina Major (not to be confused with Marcus Aurelius' daughter, Annia Cornificia Faustina Minor) and the ex-consul Gaius Ummidius Quadratus Annianus Verus in 141, and had one brother, Marcus Ummidius Quadratus Annianus. Through her mother, she was linked to the ruling Nerva-Antonine Dynasty; Quadratus would serve as consul in 167. Annia Cornificia Faustina Major died between 151-153, and Ummidia and Marcus Quadratus would split the family fortune, including one of the Cyllinian Estates in Pisidia between them, making them very wealthy at a young age.

Ummidia married Tiberius Claudius Gordianus, son of the first Cappadocian admitted into the Senate (by Marcus Aurelius) also named Tiberius Claudius Gordianus, and had one daughter with him by 165, a girl named Annia Faustina. However she was apparently made to divorce Claudius Gordianus some time after Annia Faustina's birth, and married the famed general Decimus Aelius Meridius Maximus, the son of a freedman from Hispania. She bore one child with him, a son named Publius Aelius Faustus. Annia Faustina left Ummidia and joined the family of Claudius Gordianus following the divorce, as part of the settlement which also let Claudius Gordianus keep most of the dowry.

Maximus and Ummidia were definitely already wed by the conclusion of Marcus Aurelius' Marcomannic War in 180, as it was in the capacity of Maximus' wife that she and Publius Aelius arrived at the emperor's encampment in Vindobona (modern Vienna), where she joined her cousins Commodus, Lucilla and Annia Cornificia amongst many other leading Romans. While she was not privy to the conference which Marcus Aurelius assembled with Maximus and his colleague Gaius Livius Metellus outlining his bold plan to separate the offices of the Emperor amongst a proto-"cabinet" of officials including Maximus, she may have known of its general outlines.

At any rate, the plan was never executed due to Marcus Aurelius' sudden death, allegedly due to the Antonine Plague, although separate "authors" in the notoriously unreliable Historia Augusta pin the blame on Commodus, his son and successor, or a cabal including Claudius Gordianus amongst others seeking to manipulate the young prince. Ummidia and her son returned to Rome shortly thereafter, but not Maximus, who remained at the Pannonian front as military governor.

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Reign of Commodus

While Commodus had inherited many of his father's advisors, including Tiberius Claudius Pompeianus (who had allegedly been offered one of the "offices of state" by Marcus Aurelius in Vindobona), the ex-consul Gaius Bruttius Praesens (his father-in-law) amongst others, he generally left the matters of state to his (apparently blind) eunuch Saoterus, who is condemned by "Antonius Mannus", one of the alleged authors of the Historia Augusta, as Marcus Aurelius' assassin.

The means of death was apparently a knife poisoned only on one side and used to cut an apple; Saoterus ate the clean half and offered the emperor the poisoned half, killing him. Saoterus is further accused by Antonius Mannus as being the chief tool of a cabal including Claudius Gordianus and the future emperors Pescennius Niger and Didius Julianus; this claim is unverifiable and is probably falsified to further indict the two usurpers.

Dissatisfaction with this state of affairs (along with personal envy) led Lucilla to plot with Ummidia, her brother Quadratus, and Appius Claudius Quintianus, Pompeianus' nephew, to assassinate Commodus and Bruttia Crispina, his wife, and replace them with Pompeianus and Lucilla herself. Ummidia's motivations are unclear; perhaps she felt that Commodus had reneged on the arrangements of Marcus Aurelius to divide the offices of the Emperor, or she wished to remove Claudius Gordianus, who had pursued her ceaselessly after her return from Vindobona without Maximus, from her life altogether by destroying Saoterus' influence through Commodus.

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Downfall and death

The plot in 182 against Commodus, however, failed, with Appius Quintianus prematurely announced his intentions by vociferating "This is what the Senate sends you" before brandishing his weapon, and Quintianus was easily subdued by Commodus' personal guard.

Quntianus and Marcus Quadratus were executed on the orders of Commodus, and Ummidia and Lucilla, along with Lucilla's daughter Plautia, were exiled to Capri, with the entirety of Ummidia's property confiscated and devolved to Annia Faustina. Commodus grew paranoid about Maximus, and effectively ordered his death at the same time that he sent a centurion of the Praetorian Guard to execute the three women later that year.

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Legacy

Maximus had managed to escape his death sentence, but could not reach Capri in time to save the lives of his wife and his child, who had been crucified by the time he got to their residence of exile. Although Maximus would be apprehended there and then, his identity was not revealed. Assumed to be a house-slave in a fit of temporary mania, Maximus was sold into the bondage of Proximo, a former gladiator and now a manager of such games.

A decade later (according to Caledonius, another "author" of the Historia Augusta), Maximus would finally revenge himself upon Commodus by slaying him in single combat in the Colosseum, but succumbed to his wounds immediately thereafter. He was hailed as Liberator by the grateful Gaius Livius and Annia Cornificia and buried in the Catacombs of Rome along with the exhumed remains of Ummidia and Publius Aelius Faustus, reuniting the tragically unfortunate family after those many years.

[1] A historical figure, albeit fictionalised into Maximus' wife here.

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That's the Gladiator half of the story; we move on to Fall of the Roman Empire next...

 

[Nivek]

Inspired by @Nofix's run of video game wikiboxes...

So Nintendo-Sony goes ahead with the old contract, the one say, they will share profits of the systems but the royalties goes to each propertary media, that will make the bickering in my timeline looks like fart jokes...

So yeah Mana got send to die... a shame but a sacrifice will be never forgotten....a Mark Hamill voiced evermore with Soule CD soundtrack will be music for my ears, nice idea buddy.

So, The Gameboy nova(thanks for the shout out,) was the SNES version and the IOS Port-Remake is the SNES-CD one? well there is goes my money

 

[Turquoise Blue]

Sorry for no updates on AIPverse infoboxes today.

 

[Politibrit]

Some notes if you do plan a TL: The best bet for an Alliance Victory is to avoid the Falklands Conflict, have the economic recovery be hindered in some way, and for Thatcher to call the election early around April/March of 1982, when the Conservatives were regaining their ground in the Polls but the Alliance still ranked higher than Labour. Other factors that will be important is also the position of Foot; if you remove him and replace him with Benn or Shore (not hard considering he very nearly resigned IoTL), then you could see Labour sink further, giving the Alliance an edge.

Also, the Prime Minister would have been Roy Jenkins. The agreement was that, as the SDP had more experience in Goverment, then the Gang of Four would lead the subsequent Goverment, with Steel as Deputy. Sort of like how Baldwin had MacDonald be Prime Minister.

Might it not be better to have the Falklands happen, but go badly enough for the Tories for them to suffer a large loss in popularity? In OTL they had already begun to recover in the polls before the war began, they probably would still have enough support to prevent the Alliance from coming close to government. A botched Falklands could give the Alliance the second wind that they need. The obvious difficulty would be to have the Conservatives stay with Thatcher, rather than opt for a more popular alternative going into the next election. Perhaps more defections from the Tories to the SDP could shore up her leadership enough to keep her going, as her most prominent critics would be gone.

As for Labour, I would question whether a new leader would make much of a difference. Labour's manifesto was practically written by Tony Benn anyway, if the man himself was leader I am unsure how much of support they would lose, especially given his charisma when compared to Foot. As for Shore, he would almost certainly be an improvement, from what I have heard of him on some issues he was on the right of the party, plus the consensus on him seems to be that he was a somewhat electable figure, given that he is mentioned in practically every post about the Labour left making it into power as the most likely PM in such a scenario.

 

[shiftygiant]

Might it not be better to have the Falklands happen, but go badly enough for the Tories for them to suffer a large loss in popularity? In OTL they had already begun to recover in the polls before the war began, they probably would still have enough support to prevent the Alliance from coming close to government. A botched Falklands could give the Alliance the second wind that they need. The obvious difficulty would be to have the Conservatives stay with Thatcher, rather than opt for a more popular alternative going into the next election. Perhaps more defections from the Tories to the SDP could shore up her leadership enough to keep her going, as her most prominent critics would be gone.

As for Labour, I would question whether a new leader would make much of a difference. Labour's manifesto was practically written by Tony Benn anyway, if the man himself was leader I am unsure how much of support they would lose, especially given his charisma when compared to Foot. As for Shore, he would almost certainly be an improvement, from what I have heard of him on some issues he was on the right of the party, plus the consensus on him seems to be that he was a somewhat electable figure, given that he is mentioned in practically every post about the Labour left making it into power as the most likely PM in such a scenario.

Whilst I agree with the first half, do note that the OP is only doing a rough sketch, so obliviously Thatcher hanging on isn't what you would see if it was more developed (I think Heseltine or Tebbit would suite fine, depending on the mood of the Party; if the Party thinks Thatcher was too soft touch, they might go for Tebbit. I'll admit I'm not an expert in who was positioned where within the Party around the Falklands).

As for the second half, if Foot resigns, then the Parties issues with only grow. Whilst having a Leader like Benn who believed fully in the Manifesto and had enough Charisma to make it seem rational would be a plus, the problems ultimetly come down to the contents itself, which, to be frank, was too far out there for the public. The problem both Benn and Shore would face is a Party that is largely divided and somewhat chaotic in the wake of a hypothetical resignation. With the message divided and the mess that would be the Leadership contest, you have fertile grounds for the SDP/Liberals to make massive headway, building off the issue of confidence in Labour, and in tandem with a botched Falklands, a rejection of Conservative ideals. The economy would be the only sticking point- if it did improve like IoTL, you'll possibly see Thatcher be reelected on a much smaller majority, so having the Treasury cock up in some regards would be a good place to start.

 

[shiftygiant]

This one will have a write up, and I'll also go back and give the previous one a write up. Right now though, Tim Collins, a Prime Minister that never was. The PoD is that Major isn't promoted to becoming Chancellor, and remains Foreign Secretary.

Image was taken from Tim Collins profile at Bell Pottinger, the only recent decent portrait of him I could find.

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Timothy William George Collins, CBE, (born 7 May 1964) is a British politician who served as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 2012 to 2016, and as the Leader of the Conservative Party from 2008 to 2016. He has been Member of Parliament to Westmorland and Lonsdale since 1996. Collins is a self-described One-Nationite Conservative, as well as associating himself with Compassionate Conservatism and economic liberalism.

Born in Epping, Essex, Collins went to Chigwell School, and was educated at London School of Economics and King's College London. During the late 1980's and early 1990's, Collins was a member of the 10 Downing Street Policy Unit, and Speechwriter to various Cabinet Ministers. He would also serve as Special Assistant to then Prime Minister Michael Heseltine, for which he would eventually receive his CBE. Entering Parliament in 1996, Collins served in the Whips office before he was made Shadow Cabinet Office Minsiter in the Michael Howard Shadow Cabinet, advising Howard during the disastrous 2001 General Election. Following Howard's resignation, Collins would be promoted to Shadow Education Secretary under Malcolm Rifkind, and then Shadow Home Secretary under Chris Patten, whom he succeed in 2008. Seeking to modernize the Conservative Party, Collins shifted focus to supporting Socially Liberal policies, believing that the Party would have to regain voters lost by the Parties failure to keep up in order to win the next election, as well as providing a stronger centre-right alternative to Labour, as well as providing a strong flare of euroskepticism to counter Labour's Europhilic approach to the Continent. Despite initial criticism, Collins was able to vindicate himself with high polling and a string of by-election and assembly election victories. In 2012, Collins would be elected on a narrow majority, and forced to deal with the ongoing recovery of the Great Recession, enacting austerity measures in hopes of cutting the Government's large deficit. Collins premiership would see sweeping privatization, as well as reform in tax, immigration, education, and the NHS. Collins would be consistently criticized on all fronts for what seen by many attempt to privatize the latter two.

On the international stage, under his Goverment Britain would conclude her withdrawal from the Gulf region, and continued nation building efforts in the region. Collins would also see British Military Deployment in Baltic's during the 14 Day Crisis, and peacekeeping operations in post-War Libya. His Goverment would also see a more frigid relationship with Europe, one of Collins' Manifesto pledges having been a referendum on the United Kingdom's statues in the EU. Domestically, his Goverment oversaw the Scottish Independence Referendum- following the triumph of the Yes campaign, Collins announced his resignation, succeeded by John Major following the subsequent Leadership election.

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For Want of a Promotion
John Major

 

[Lavanya Six]

So Nintendo-Sony goes ahead with the old contract, the one say, they will share profits of the systems but the royalties goes to each propertary media, that will make the bickering in my timeline looks like fart jokes...

Essentially, yeah. After the first year or two, thanks to the Nintendo's unsubtle messaging, most companies treat the Play Station as a place to "port" cartridge games. Evermore is a typical (if positive) example of how the SNES-CD is remembered: otherwise ordinary 16-bit games with bells and whistles. There's still a few gems that take full advantage of the CD format, like Final Fantasy V and VI, but they're rare, and nobody creates a Squad Four: Eclipse that pushes the Play Station to its absolute technological limit.

ITTL, my hunch would be that the 1990s are retrospectively viewed as a time when the video game industry was hobbled by corporate infighting. The Nintendo-Sony and SoJ-SoA squabbles would be taken as a cautionary tale about how they could've crushed their competition if their own house had been in order. (I imagine Microsoft would make more effort to have all its ducks in a row with the Xbox-1.)

So, The Gameboy nova(thanks for the shout out,) was the SNES version and the IOS Port-Remake is the SNES-CD one? well there is goes my money

Gameboy was the SNES-CD version minus the voice acting due to size considerations. That went over about as well as you'd expect. There was much rejoicing when the iOS/Android port was released with all the full voice acting intact, even if by that point it was showing its age.

 

[Nofix]

Essentially, yeah. After the first year or two, thanks to the Nintendo's unsubtle messaging, most companies treat the Play Station as a place to "port" cartridge games. Evermore is a typical (if positive) example of how the SNES-CD is remembered: otherwise ordinary 16-bit games with bells and whistles. There's still a few gems that take full advantage of the CD format, like Final Fantasy V and VI, but they're rare, and nobody creates a Squad Four: Eclipse that pushes the Play Station to its absolute technological limit.

ITTL, my hunch would be that the 1990s are retrospectively viewed as a time when the video game industry was hobbled by corporate infighting. The Nintendo-Sony and SoJ-SoA squabbles would be taken as a cautionary tale about how they could've crushed their competition if their own house had been in order. (I imagine Microsoft would make more effort to have all its ducks in a row with the Xbox-1.)



Gameboy was the SNES-CD version minus the voice acting due to size considerations. That went over about as well as you'd expect. There was much rejoicing when the iOS/Android port was released with all the full voice acting intact, even if by that point it was showing its age.

I like your wikibox and your idea of how things would work ITTL.

 

[Nivek]

Essentially, yeah. After the first year or two, thanks to the Nintendo's unsubtle messaging, most companies treat the Play Station as a place to "port" cartridge games. Evermore is a typical (if positive) example of how the SNES-CD is remembered: otherwise ordinary 16-bit games with bells and whistles. There's still a few gems that take full advantage of the CD format, like Final Fantasy V and VI, but they're rare, and nobody creates a Squad Four: Eclipse that pushes the Play Station to its absolute technological limit.

ITTL, my hunch would be that the 1990s are retrospectively viewed as a time when the video game industry was hobbled by corporate infighting. The Nintendo-Sony and SoJ-SoA squabbles would be taken as a cautionary tale about how they could've crushed their competition if their own house had been in order. (I imagine Microsoft would make more effort to have all its ducks in a row with the Xbox-1.)

I like your wikibox and your idea of how things would work ITTL.

Excatly, as SEGA OTL Infamous dramedy of errors that was the Japan vs West Divided(Not forgot sega was ultra popular in europe before sony entered) and here Nintendo and Sony Forced Marriage as you say will make a good precedent for any new corporation.... as say in PTS and now MM, even if MS just take some time and plans better, that will be a massive improvement over OTL, the irony is....MS would have been a Titan if played all cards right...well that is how this industry works...

Did you will continued this? seeing how Mana bombed would be a nice infobox, how would be next gen? would sega accept the RIPS M3000i who refused OTL? would they got with Nvidia for NVD-1, who would be a supercharged saturn but mega cheaper to OTL. What will be of Nintendo and Sony here?. Thanks all the kudos for the timeline Rysenkari and I made, thanks for both.

Gameboy was the SNES-CD version minus the voice acting due to size considerations. That went over about as well as you'd expect. There was much rejoicing when the iOS/Android port was released with all the full voice acting intact, even if by that point it was showing its age.

Well. yeah even with improvement that would be SNES-CD version in portable, not voices would have been seen as a bad compromise, heck just port snes instead, that is the definition of a blue balls cocktease.[/QUOTE]