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timelines:chaos [2016/07/18 09:52] – [Chapters] petiketimelines:chaos [2022/05/31 07:51] – [Other links on the net] max_sinister
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-====== Chaos ======+====== Chaos TL: A world without Genghis Khan's conquests ======
  
 A big, finished [[timelines:dark ages and medieval|TL]] by [[offtopic:Max Sinister]] [[pods:mongolia|starting with Genghis Khan's early death in 1200]] and ending in the year 1993, it covers events world-wide, although it's still a bit [[offtopic:Europe]]-centric, admittedly. A big, finished [[timelines:dark ages and medieval|TL]] by [[offtopic:Max Sinister]] [[pods:mongolia|starting with Genghis Khan's early death in 1200]] and ending in the year 1993, it covers events world-wide, although it's still a bit [[offtopic:Europe]]-centric, admittedly.
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-===== Links =====+==== Links ====
  
-  * [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=32411|Timeline]] +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=32411|Original thread]]** (also containing discussion, timeline finished) 
-  * [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=32412|Stories]] +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=32412|Stories thread]]** (stories for each era in the timeline) 
-  * [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=70196|Scenario]] +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=70196|Definitive version]]** (currently compiled into a finished state only up to 1400) 
-  * [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=41274|alternate PODs]] (as ideas for starting other ATLs from TTL) +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=41274|Alternate PODs]]** (as ideas for starting other ATLs from TTL) 
-  * [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=35662|version 0.0 of the TL]]far less sophisticated, although sharing some elements.+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=35662|Version 0.0 of the TL]]** (far less sophisticated, although sharing some elements
 +  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-i-learned-writing-the-chaos-tl-essay.36277/|Max's essay on writing the timeline]]**
  
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 ==== Other links on the net ==== ==== Other links on the net ====
  
-  * [[http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos|Chaos TL]] on the althistory wikia +  * [[https://althistory.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos|Chaos TL entry]] on [[alternate_history:althist_fandom_wiki|the AltHistory Fandom wiki (ex-Wikia)]] 
-  * [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/ChaosTimeline|Entry]] on TV Tropes +  * [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/ChaosTimeline|Entry]] on [[offtopic:TV Tropes]] 
-  * [[http://gurps.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos|Gurps AE-style entry]] on the Gurps wikia +  * [[https://gurps.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_(world)|Gurps AE-style entry]] on the [[alternate history:Gurps]] Fandom Wiki 
 +  * [[offtopic:B_Munro]]-fied [[https://www.deviantart.com/quantumbranching/art/Chaos-Timeline-OR-No-Genghis-252212174|map of the timeline in early 1993]] 
 +  * [[https://youtu.be/ycJe_fhkOuw?t=2888|Mentioning in "The Alternate Timeline Iceberg Explained (Part 1)", Level 6 on AlternateHistoryHub]]
  
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 ==== Chapters ==== ==== Chapters ====
  
-**[[timelines:chaos (chapters)|Overview of Chaos Timeline chapters]]**+**[[timelines:chapters (chaos)|Overview of Chaos Timeline chapters]]**
  
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-===== Stories and allusions to AH.com members =====+==== TL-related media and trivia ====
  
-As with [[offtopic:Hendryk]]'s [[timelines:Superpower Empire China 1912]] TL, there's also a lot of stories for this TL around. The difference: All the stories are written by Max Sinister; and in many cases, the stories aren't really stories but excerpts of books, articles, reviews, forum discussions, commercial ads, and so on. But they also have something in common - hidden references to various [[offtopic:member list|members]] of [[offtopic:AH.com]]. [[offtopic:Grey Wolf]] appears as Gray Wolvertone, court chronicler of New Albion; [[offtopic:Thande]] is mentioned as the Technische Hochschule Argentinien/Neustadt für Delizierung und Eisenverarbeitung, abbrev. T.H.A.N.D.E. (Technical university/college of Neustadt/Argentine for refining and iron processing); [[offtopic:ljofa]] appears as Logo Jedermann; Cathryn Gallant from the Old Board as scandal author Katherine Geller; [[offtopic:Leo Caesius]] inspired the phrase "pulling a Leo"; and the members [[offtopic:Ian|Ian]] the Admin, [[offtopic:Hendryk]], [[offtopic:Gladi]], hansmeister, POTUS Diffin (as OT-DDR78), [[offtopic:David bar Elias]], [[offtopic:Steffen]] and Max Sinister himself appear as members of WWW ("Was wäre wenn", German for WI), TTL's equivalent of AH.com. And there's also a [[offtopic:Doctor What|Dieter Waas]] guy who's very interested in Lesbians...+**[[maps (chaos)|Maps]]**
  
-----+**[[nations (chaos)|Important Nations and Countries]]**
  
-===== Important Wars =====+**[[cities (chaos)|Important Cities]]**
  
-  Swabian War (South German cities + Swiss vs. German princes) +**[[dramatis personae (chaos)|Dramatis Personae]]**
-  First Aquitainian War +
-  * Second Aquitainian War +
-  * Third Aquitainian War +
-  * Great Occidental War (for some, TTL's first world war) +
-  First Teutonic-Polish War +
-  Second Teutonic-Polish War +
-  * Great Napolitan War +
-  * French Civil War +
-  * Swiss Civil War +
-  * Polish-Bohemian war +
-  * Twenty-Year War (German Civil War) +
-  * Seljuk-Persian War +
-  * First Occidental-Seljuk War +
-  * Second Occidental-Seljuk War  +
-  * First French-Seljuk War +
-  * Second French-Seljuk War +
-  * Third French-Seljuk War +
-  * Italian-Seljuk War +
-  * Italian-Russian-Seljuk War +
-  * War of the Fords (English Civil War) +
-  * Castillian Civil War +
-  * First Nordic War +
-  * English-Polish War +
-  * Anti-Dutch War +
-  * Russian-Polovtsian War +
-  * Russian-Kuman War +
-  * Anti-Bohemian War +
-  * Bohemian-Hungarian War +
-  * Novgorodian War +
-  * Novorussian War of Independence +
-  * First Swiss-Savoy War +
-  * English-Polish War +
-  * Second Swiss-Savoy War +
-  * Luxembourgian War of Succession +
-  * Anti-French War (for some, TTL's first or second world war, depending on how one counts) +
-  * War of the Five Nations +
-  * Javan War (Majapahit, Johor and several smaller kingdoms) +
-  * Indian War (Persia vs. Vijayanagar) +
-  * Dutch War of Succession / Unification +
-  * Spice Islands War (Britain vs. small states) +
-  * Palatinate War of Succession +
-  * French-Atlantean War +
-  * Madagascar War (Sweden vs. Persia) +
-  * Russian Civil War +
-  * French-Prussian War +
-  * South German War +
-  * First French Republican War +
-  * Second French Republican War +
-  * Third French Republican War +
-  * Russian-Prussian War +
-  * Russian-Polish War +
-  * Canadian Revolutionary War +
-  * Anti-British War +
-  * Anti-Russian War +
-  * Rhenish War +
-  * Second English Civil War +
-  * First French-Roman War +
-  * Second French-Roman War +
-  * Anti-Persian War +
-  * Third French-Roman War +
-  * Anti-Seljuk War +
-  * First World War (three Germanies, Canada, China, Nippon, Braseal vs. New Rome, Novorossiya and South Russia) +
-  * Socialist-German War +
-  * Jewish-Syrian War +
-  * Second World War (Germany vs. Greater Italy and Union of Old and New Russia) +
-  * Congo War +
-  * Third World War (end of the TL)+
  
-----+**[[events (chaos)|Major Events]]**
  
-===== Interesting Things ===== +**[[wars (chaos)|Major Wars]]**
-  Märchenwelt (German for "fairytale world") - TTL equivalent of VR +
-  Weltsystem (German for "world system"- TTL equivalent of Internet +
-  WWW forum (abbrev. for "Was wäre wenn", German for "what (would be) if") - TTL equivalent of AH.com :-) +
-  * Data cubes (a new kind of external computer memory - computer chips can't be made smaller, so they have to move into the third dimension) +
-  The "Logo" scene, comparable with OTL hackers+
  
----- +**[[glossary (chaos)|Glossary and Culture]]**
- +
-===== Interesting Countries ===== +
- +
-  Denmark and Holland under one (Schauenburger) king +
-  Scottish-Norwegian Monarchy +
-  * Elective Monarchy / Nobles' republic of Aragon +
-  * Bohemian Theocracy +
-  * Quadruple Monarchy (England, Scotland, Castille, Portugal) +
-  * Triple Monarchy (England, Castille, Portugal) +
-  * Seljuk Sultanate / Caliphate +
-  * Bourbon Hungary (incl. Transsylvania, Bohemia) +
-  * Hohenzollern Franconia-Pomerania +
-  * Ascanian Brandenburg-Silesia +
-  * Eberhardiner Württemberg-Austria +
-  * Hong China +
-  * Dvoryan Republic of Kipchakia +
-  * Dvoryan Republic of Polovtsia +
-  * Dvoryan Republic of Kumania +
-  * Greater Choresm +
-  * Gottesfreistaat Münster +
-  * Gottesfreistaat Würzburg +
-  * Protectorate of the Marches +
-  * Holstein-Holland-Hennegau +
-  * Luxembourg-Tyrol +
-  * French Sinai (for gaining a way to India) +
-  * Scandinavian Colony of Australia (Australafrica) +
-  * "Beggar's republic" of Parma +
-  * Personal Union of Scotland, Ireland and Scandinavia under Prince Alasdair (and for short time, Poland and the HRE too) +
-  * Greater Swiss Confederation including Alsace, the Black Forest and South Swabia +
-  * Arpad Hungary reigning OTL Romania, Serbia and Bosnia (before Seljuk conquest) +
-  * Estates Republic of Scotland +
-  * Welf Denmark-Braunschweig(-Norway) +
-  * Commonwealth of New England +
-  * Nobles' republic of Norway +
-  * Republic of Novorossiya (New Russia - OTL Siberia) +
-  * Portuguese "ship-states" at the coast of Guinea +
-  * Sweden-Norway-Mecklenburg-Netherlands +
-  * Greater Persia including Delhi, Mecca, Jerusalem, Madagascar +
-  * Hong empire-in-exile at Taiwan, Philippines +
-  * The "empty circle" in North Atlantis, the desert between the lands of the Germans, Russians, Italians and Spaniards (and later New Romans) +
-  * New Roman Empire including Italy, Croatia, France, Iberia, North Africa, and half of Atlantis (and Indian colonies) +
-  * Inca Empire conquered by Italians +
-  * Socialist People's State of Britain +
-  * Tir Tairngire (Irish-settled OTL Australia, where the pope resides, and the Catholic church is powerful) +
-  * Tir na nOg (a German satellite and split-off of the former) +
-  * Judea (Jewish state in the Sinai) - later becomes Greater Judea, including Palestine and Syria +
-  * Seljuk Jumhuriya (nationalist-Islamic republic) +
-  * Socialist Block made of Britain, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, France, Italy, Iberia and NW Germany (and later Greece too) +
-  * United Germany with lands (not colonies) in Europe, Atlantis and Argentine +
-  * Greater Italy governed by the //famiglia//, a mafia-like unofficial organization +
-  * German technocracy +
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-===== Interesting Cities ===== +
-  * Herzogsberg (OTL Königsberg) - named after Przemysl Otakar +
-  * Haraldsborg (OTL New York) +
-  * Aleksandrskoye (OTL Kazan) +
-  * Nystad (OTL Wilmington, Delaware) +
-  * Roma Nuova (OTL Norfolk, VA) +
-  * Charlesbourg (OTL Charleston) +
-  * Wolfsburg (OTL Detroit) +
-  * Santiago (OTL Havana) +
-  * Yenisseisk (OTL Krasnoyarsk) +
-  * Patsifikskaya (OTL Vladivostok) +
-  * Stafford City / Stefor (OTL Recife / Pernambuco) +
-  * Fort Humphrey / Neu-Hamburg (OTL Buenos Aires) +
-  * Kingsburgh (OTL Montreal) +
-  * Wildenhartburg (OTL Chicago) +
-  * Paulskirchen (OTL Minneapolis) +
-  * Philipsburgh (OTL Wellington, New Zealand) +
-  * New London / Novolondon (OTL Salvador, Brazil) +
-  * Tainstvo (OTL Sacramento) +
-  * New Dublin (OTL Sydney) +
-  * Drevesina (OTL Boise, Idaho) +
-  * Paradi(e)s (OTL Rio de Janeiro) +
-  * Franzensburg (OTL San Francisco) +
-  * Martinsburg (OTL Philadelphia) +
-  * Trinidad (OTL Amarillo, Texas) +
-  * Vladivostok (OTL Sapporo) +
-  * Nueva Leon (OTL Caracas) +
-  * Vanhakaupunki (OTL Helsinki) +
-  * Anfa (OTL Casablanca) +
-  * Popovsk (OTL Chabarovsk) +
-  * Itil (OTL Astrachan) +
-  * Fort d'Eau (OTL Toronto) +
-  * Alexandersborg (OTL Cape Town) +
-  * Fort Knox (OTL Singapore) +
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-===== Interesting events ===== +
-  * China divided into five kingdoms for a while in 14th century +
-  * Swiss conquer Habsburg lands +
-  * Teutonic knights conquer and germanize all of Lithuania, several Russian princedoms +
-  * Choresm conquers Baghdad, makes the Caliph its puppet +
-  * Division and reunification of Seljuk sultanate +
-  * Serbian rebellion under Stepan Hrebeljanovic +
-  * King Jean of France deposed by his wife Isabelle +
-  * Russian schism - Vladimir-Suzdal against Kiev-Chernigov +
-  * Discovery of electroplating in Hong China +
-  * SE Asian countries more Sinified +
-  * Earlier discovery of America by a Danish prince, named Harald +
-  * "Sacco di Roma" - Seljuks take Rome, declare the "Sultanate of two Romes" +
-  * Venice becoming French protectorate +
-  * Lands of the Reichskirche (Imperial church) secularized end of 15th century +
-  * Pashtuns come to power in Persia +
-  * Peaceful division of Aragon between the Triple Monarchy and France +
-  * Settling of the Philippines by Chinese (and to a lesser extent, Vietnamese) +
-  * Colonies in Atlantis (OTL America) for Poland, Florence and Braunschweig-Lüneburg +
-  * States of the Aztecs and Incas survive thanks to French intervention +
-  * Japan starting an early trade empire (after Chinese are harassed by Arab pirates too much) +
-  * Przemyslid Bohemia reigning Austria, Styria, Carinthia and parts of Silesia +
-  * Occidental schism, with the founding of the (short-lived) Occidental Church under the king of the Quadruple Monarchy +
-  * Ezo (Hokkaido) settled by Russians +
-  * Poland becomes a member state of the HREGN +
-  * England colonizes Braseal, Argentine +
-  * Swedes in Australia (OTL South Africa - name comes from Australafrica) +
-  * Revolution of communication by earlier telegraph +
-  * Discovery of Antipodia (OTL Australia) +
-  * Guinea (West African coast) ruled by Portuguese-descended mulattos +
-  * "Young Seljuks" topple sultans, later introduce democracy +
-  * French discuss fourteen years about succession after death of their last king +
-  * "Schulzenaufstand" (Mayors' Uprising) in German-settled Atlantis +
-  * Nippon catholized by Spain, with the tenno as head of the Nipponese church +
-  * Founding of the Imperial Catholic church in the New Roman Empire +
-  * Braseal becomes a penal colony for the New Roman empire, ends up with a population made up from Europeans, Arabs, Incas and Indians +
-  * Pope fleeing from Avignon to Toledo, Canterbury, New Albion and finally Tir Tairngire +
-  * Germany invades the kingdom of Scandinavia, after the latter elects a part-Socialist government, and makes it a satellite republic +
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-===== Interesting people ===== +
-  * Jalal-ad-Din (prince and later Shah of Choresm, fought Ogadai Khan successfully) +
-  * Bela IV of Hungary (settled the Volga Hungarians, conquered Bosnia, made Vlachia / Moldovia satellites) +
-  * Prince Aleksandr Yaroslavich (OTL Nevsky - fought Volga Bulgars) +
-  * Baibars (OTL Mamluk sultan - became Kipchak leader) +
-  * Otakar Przemysl (duke of Moravia and Carinthia, Roman king) +
-  * Vladimir V Rostislavich (grand prince of Kiev, first quasi-Czar of South Russia) +
-  * Gerhard I (king of Denmark and Netherlands, Holy Roman Emperor) +
-  * Maffeo Servitore ([in]famous secretary of the Medici, negotiated the division of North Italy between Florence, Savoy and Venice) +
-  William Aston (translated the Bible into English) +
-  Louis XII of France (killed his mad brother Philippe, for which his other brother Charles deposed him) +
-  * Bernhard I of Braunschweig-Lüneburg (founded first German colony in Atlantis) +
-  * Karl Koch (former monk, declared the short-lived Rhenish republic in Cologne) +
-  * Lorenzo del Vacca (famous artist and inventor in Florence) +
-  * Franz I (Francois de Valois - French regent and first Frenchman becoming Holy Roman Emperor) +
-  * Prince Alasdair / Alexander of Scotland, who visited the New World as second European monarch after prince Harald, and conquered his lost kingdoms back, and more. +
-  * James of Athelhampton (English philosopher, wrote "About the divine right of the king", advocating cesaropapism, and "Kingdom of God", TTL's first utopian story, set in Atlantis) +
-  * Edward V of England-Castille-Portugal. Controversial king who rebelled against the pope, but was defeated by in the Great Occidental War and had to resign. +
-  * Francois IV of France. Made the country an absolutist state, but also laid the groundwork for the anti-French coalition. +
-  * Alejandro Enrique Ruiz Rodriguez (1578-1655), Spanish author of dramas based on the bible, considered one of the greatest European authors +
-  * Henry VI of England-Castille-Portugal. Responsible for the Triple Monarchy falling apart. Deposed and exiled to Atlantis. +
-  * Pyotr I: First Czar of Vladimir-Suzdal. Responsible for losing Novorossiya. +
-  * "Twin princes" Francois / Ferenc III (also king of Poland) and Charles / Károly IV of Hungary. Introduced enlightened absolutism. +
-  * Humphrey I (first Stafford king of England) +
-  * Queen Maria of Spain (married the king of rebellious Morocco, thus bringing it back to the fold, made sure that her younger, but more competent son would become king) +
-  * Condolcessa de Medici (daughter of the last Medici Grand Duke and wife of Sicilian king Francesco II) +
-  * Queen Kristina of Sweden (one of the leading opponents of Francois IV, administrated Brandenburg-Silesia and Franconia-Pomerania for a while) +
-  * Friedrich von Hohenzollern (presumed heir of the Hohenzollern, who fought for the Italian king in Caroline, Atlantis and became new duke and elector) +
-  * Johann K. Kodweiß from Pomerania. Author of "Christnacht", about an old miser who changes his life in a christmas night +
-  * Kristian III of Denmark (tried to force the church to canonize him while alive, killed) +
-  * Olof Tiselius (mighty first minister in Sweden-Norway-Mecklenburg; helped taking power away from the king, making the country most progressive in Western Europe) +
-  * Stanislaw III (second-last king of Poland, for some time also last HREmperor and regent of Denmark-Braunschweig) +
-  * Joaquin / Gioacchino, last Alvarez king of Italy. (Unified the country, took the opportunity to acquire colonies of France and Spain. Generally assumed to be homosexual, although it could never been proven.) +
-  * General Boulanger (got dictatorial powers in France during critical times after the republican wars, but gave them up later again) +
-  * Lin Xiaolong / Yongzhi (former general; became first Ming Emperor; had the telegraphic network of China built) +
-  * Christian 't Hooft (Dutchman fled to Britain; built first steam machine) +
-  * Walter Meier (German patriot, who worked for the French as tribute collector, but secretly planned for the - successful - uprising. A controversial figure. Died in Bohemian exile.) +
-  * Alessandro Napoleoni (former general of king Gioacchino, conquered Egypt, was appointed successor, and made himself first New Roman Emperor) +
-  * Adolf Ignaz II ("Adolf Nazi") of Nassau. Last German prince, kept peace with France +
-  * Philip (last king of Britain and self-declared ruler of half of Europe, thanks to inherited titles. Killed in the British revolution.) +
-  * George I (first king of New Albion - OTL New Zealand -, where the British royal family had to flee to after the revolution) +
-  * Joao de Gouveia (son of a fled Portuguese nobleman and his African mistress, became self-proclaimed king of the Ijaw people in the Niger delta; first of many Mulattoes to do so) +
-  * Admiral Carleton (tried to reinstall the monarchy in Britain, in vain) +
-  * Patricius I (first Irish pope, and the first elected in Antipodia / Australia) +
-  * Joseph B. Franklin (first president of Canada) +
-  * Jacob Andrews (Canadian war hero and president, built up Pacific fleet) +
-  * Charles Pounder (former bartender, became mightiest man in Socialist Britain) +
-  * Tom Liverpool (former orphan from Britain, fled to Canada and became a famous inventor) +
-  * Lars Andersson (son of Swedish Socialists who fled from Finland to Britain; invented a kind of early computer specialized on codebreaking) +
-  * Alfred Kleiber (cunning chancellor of German Atlantis; responsible for making Kalifornien a satellite and played an even more important role in the World War, and finally in the unification of the Germanies) +
-  * Friedrich-Paul Halbe (commander of the German troops in Atlantis; under his reign, the first tank attacks were made) +
-  * Iossif Gridenkov, Russian dictator. Killed by his own generals after going insane. +
-  * Prof. Kilian Houston from the Socialist Block who demands more use of artificial intelligences for government and manager work +
-  * Sophie Stein (aka Sofonisba Leoncavallo, aka Shayna Löwenpferd), Jewish/atheist philosopher, founder of Veritism +
-  * Chandramoorthy (former gang leader, teacher and founder of a religion)+
  
 +**[[references and cameos (chaos)|References and cameos]]**
  
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