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--- shared_worlds:nation_games [2020/05/24 03:25] – bob_the_great
+++ shared_worlds:nation_games [2021/02/13 16:05] (current) – [Shared Worlds : Nation Games] added perma link for discord bob_the_great
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 //This article is about the subforum that opened in October 2011.  For the game genre known as the **nation(s) game**, see [[Moderated Games#History and culture|here]].//
-**Nation Games** is one of the three subfora of the [[Shared Worlds]] forum.  Like [[Moderated Games]], it is devoted to nation games, in which each player controls a country and determines its actions within an overall world.
+**Nation Games** was once one of the three subfora of the [[Shared Worlds]] forum.  Like [[Moderated Games]], it was devoted to nation games, in which each player controls a country and determines its actions within an overall world.
-The two subfora, despite dedicating themselves to similar pursuits, maintain distinct communities and exhibit substantial stylistic differences.  For instance, Moderated Games generally represent in-game time as a contraction of real-life time, while Nation Games divide in-game time into turns which are advanced at moderator discretion.((Is that accurate?  I hope so.))
+Despite dedicating themselves to similar pursuits, these two communities remained distinct and exhibit substantial stylistic differences.  For instance, Moderated Games generally represent in-game time as a contraction of real-life time, while Nation Games divide in-game time into turns which are advanced at moderator discretion.
 The origins of Nation Games as distinct from Moderated Games can be traced to March 2009, when the [[Sandbox]] opened.  Prior to that point, all nation games took place in the main Shared Worlds forum and, due to fear of drawing interest away from active games and killing them, were subject to strict limits on quantity.  The Sandbox served as a home for, among others, the game ideas that exceeded those limits.
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 The Sandbox was abolished in October 2011 as part of a general redistribution of Shared Worlds.  Nation Games was split off as its own subforum, and the main forum, which had maintained its structure and leadership with only gradual change, became [[Moderated Games]].
-In March 2015, the bulk of the Nation Games community, citing lack of software and administrative support from the AH.COM administration, decamped to a new forum on [[offtopic:Sufficient Velocity]].  The only game to continue through the disruption was the long-running //A Song of Ice and Fire// Nation Game, but this has since died.
+In March 2015, many members of the Nation Games community, citing lack of software and administrative support from the AH.COM administration, decamped to a new forum on [[offtopic:Sufficient Velocity]]. This event is known today as the "first migration" or "the schism". The only game to continue through the disruption was the long-running //A Song of Ice and Fire// Nation Game, and although this game finally died shortly thereafter this did ensure that the once highly active ASoIaF sub-community within Nation Games was almost entirely transplanted into Sufficient Velocity. ASoIaF themed continue to be run by the AH.com Nation Games, though without a distinct player-base separate from the rest of the community.
-Since then, several new games have been run by [[offtopic:Chaotic Brillance]], [[offtopic:Dragos Cel Mare]], [[offtopic:FPSlover]], [[offtopic:Ankh Von Hapsburg]], [[offtopic:king_of_the_penguins|The_Last_Plantagenet]], [[offtopic:Usilli]] and [[offtopic:theDisciple]] all to moderate success.  The most successful was the long running Vae Victis III, later renamed Divide et Impera, which lasted for a considerable part of 2016.
+Since the schism, several new games have were run by [[offtopic:Chaotic Brillance]], [[offtopic:Dragos Cel Mare]], [[offtopic:FPSlover]], [[offtopic:Ankh Von Hapsburg]], [[offtopic:king_of_the_penguins|The_Last_Plantagenet]], [[offtopic:Usilli]] and [[offtopic:theDisciple]] all to moderate success.  The most successful was the long running Vae Victis III, later renamed Divide et Impera, which lasted for a considerable part of 2016.
-On 25OCT2016 Shared Worlds was reorganized, with all sub-forums (Nation Games, Moderated Games, Map Games) re-combined into the general Shared Worlds forum and the implementation of the genre-tag system. Complaints by notable NG players led to administrative action against some members, resulting in a number of users departing for SV or threatening to do so.
+However on 25OCT2016 Shared Worlds was reorganized again, with all sub-forums (Nation Games, Moderated Games, Map Games) re-combined into the general Shared Worlds forum and the implementation of the genre-tag system. Complaints by notable NG players led to administrative action against some members, resulting in a number of users converting to the SV heresy or threatening to do so.
-However since this "second migration" Nation Games has been partially repopulated with new and some returning players. By 2017 the Nation Games community had fully adopted an democratic (poll) system for selecting new games, with a semi-formal rule that only two games be run at one time (although this "rule" is not enforced by administration and has been challenged and broken at times).
+As a result of this "second migration", the majority of the long time members of the Nation Games community since 2011 have left. A handful of "old era" players remain with NG, including [[offtopic:kome|Kome]], [[Flamelord]], [[offtopic:evilprodigy|evilprodigy]], [[offtopic:bob_the_great|Bob the Great]], and others.
+Fortunately NG has been significantly repopulated with new and some returning players. By 2017 the Nation Games community had fully adopted an democratic (poll) system for selecting new games, with a semi-formal rule that only two games be run at one time (although this "rule" is not enforced by administration and has been challenged and broken at times).
 From amongst those new players emerged the first "Chancellor" of the Nation Games community, [[offtopic:jankmaster98]]. In his time as Chancellor, he has overseen the game proposal election system, created the NG community discord, and started the [[shared_worlds: Nation Games Podcast|NG community podcast]].
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 **NG Discussion and Election Thread**: [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-nation-games-proposal-and-discussion-thread.401674/|Nation Games Proposal and Discussion Thread]]
-**Discord Channel**: [[https://discord.gg/2FvvazQ|Royal Alternate History NG Server]] (if link expired, request invite in NG discussion thread)
+**Discord Channel**: [[https://discord.gg/PFVjUfEurr|Royal Alternate History NG Server]] (if link expired, request invite in NG discussion thread)
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 ==== Current Games ====
-**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1394-unknown-horizons-game-thread.474187/|Unknown Horizons]]**
-**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/fell-winds-from-the-north-ic.487712/|Fell Winds From the North]]**
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/he-who-conquers-approaches-a-middle-ages-nation-game-ic-thread.499038/#post-21217171/|He Who Conquers Approaches]]** Created by Admiral Kolchak on 31 October 2020, set in Medieval Europe and Asia starting in 1227.
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/fell-winds-from-the-north-ic.487712/|Fell Winds From the North]]** Created by Caspoi on 21 August 2020, it is set in the fictional world of Lord of the Rings, starting during event of the Fall of Arnor described in the lore of the series.
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 Below is a sample of some of the recent games which have had successful runs.
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1394-unknown-horizons-game-thread.474187/|Unknown Horizons]]** Created by Archduke on 30 August 2019, set primarily in Europe 1394 with an alternate Timurid invasion as it's premise.
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dreadnoughts-and-diplomats-game-thread.495408/|Dreadnoughts and Diplomats]]**: Created on the 27th of August 2020 by Don Quijote. The setting of the game is historical world in 1905.
 **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/all-hell-let-loose-ic.433926//|All Hell Let Loose]]**