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| ====== Points of Divergence : United States Presidents ====== | ====== Points of Divergence : United States Presidents ====== |
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| ====18th and 19th century==== | PODs concerning presidents of the United States throughout history. |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261933|Alternate First President of the USA]]** | ---- |
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| **Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President: [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=4866|1]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=94406|2]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=118124|3]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=173980|4]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=250242|5]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255111|6]]** | ==== 18th and 19th century ==== |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=235265|George Washington dies while President-elect]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261933|Alternate First President of the USA]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234921|An alternative evolution of the United States Presidency]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=4866|Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President (1)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=94406|Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President (2)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=118124|Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President (3)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=173980|Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President (4)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=250242|Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President (5)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255111|Benjamin Franklin is elected as first President (6)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=235265|George Washington dies while President-elect]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234930|Washington dies in 1790, during his first term]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=206856|Challenge:Make Washington lose the 1792 election]]** |
| | * **[[pods:US_Election_of_1800|PODs based on the hard-fought US Presidential Election of 1800]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257842|A second John Adams term]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262369|18th and 19th century presidents who could've "pulled a Cleveland"]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=332362|Could John Quincy Adams have clearly won in 1824 ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=145895|Plausibility check: President Edgar Allen Poe]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259545|The Whigs in 1836]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=246890|Zachary Taylor survives]]**, leading to an earlier Civil War |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=151181|WI Lincoln lost New York (and election went to the House]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262716|Challenge: Election of 1860 thrown to Congress ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=263163|Lincoln's presidency without a secession]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=226698|The "Little-by-little Emancipator"]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=23505|WI: Abe Lincoln killed in a duel in 1842]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=270240|DBWI: Abraham Lincoln wasn't killed by a bear]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244028|Challenge: Have Lincoln kill Booth]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236207|James McClellan as President]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=91605|Grant gets a third term (instead of Garfield) 1]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=133213|Grant gets a third term (instead of Garfield) 2]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=188526|Grant gets a third term (instead of Garfield) 3]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261597|WI Garfield doesn't seek nomination?]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261119|VP Arthur dies before Garfield]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=242607|WI Guiteau gets a job before assassinating Garfield?]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=7776|Garfield survives (1)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=30206|Garfield survives (2)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=106045|Garfield survives (3)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=120115|Garfield survives (4)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=126409|Garfield survives (5)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=133215|Garfield survives (6)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=136448|Garfield survives (7)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=185514|Garfield survives (8)]]** |
| | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=227430|Civil rights in a surviving Garfield's Presidency?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272559|Challenge: Slave to President]]** |
| | * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234930| Washington dies in 1790, during his first term]]** | ---- |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=206856 | Challenge:Make Washington lose the 1792 election]]** | ==== 20th century ==== |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=240604| Created Equal]]**, an extended TL where Jefferson wins the Election of 1796 | |
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| **[[pods:US_Election_of_1800|PODs based on the hard-fought US Presidential Election of 1800]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257842|A second John Adams term]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262369|18th and 19th century presidents who could've "pulled a Cleveland"]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259545|The Whigs in 1836]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=246890| Zachary Taylor survives]]**, leading to an earlier Civil War | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=221702| The Story of a Party]]**, an extended TL where Fremont wins the Election of 1856 | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=151181|WI Lincoln lost New York (and election went to the House]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262716|Challenge: Election of 1860 thrown to Congress ?]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=263163|Lincoln's presidency without a secession]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=270240|DBWI: Abraham Lincoln wasn't killed by a bear]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236207|James McClellan as President]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=91605|Grant gets a third term (instead of Garfield) 1]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=133213|Grant gets a third term (instead of Garfield) 2]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=188526|Grant gets a third term (instead of Garfield) 3]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261597|WI Garfield doesn't seek nomination?]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261119|VP Arthur dies before Garfield]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=242607|WI Guiteau gets a job before assassinating Garfield?]]** | |
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| **Garfield survives [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=7776|1]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=30206|2]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=106045|3]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=120115|4]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=126409|5]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=133215|6]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=136448|7]], [[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=185514|8]]** | |
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| **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=227430|Civil rights in a surviving Garfield's Presidency?]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272559|Challenge: Slave to President]]** | |
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| Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. | |
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| ====20th century==== | |
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| === Beginning of the century and World War I === | === Beginning of the century and World War I === |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260673|If Theodore Roosevelt was reelected in 1908, what would be the ramifications ?]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260673|If Theodore Roosevelt was reelected in 1908, what would be the ramifications ?]]** |
| | * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/theodore-roosevelt-gets-elected-during-the-1912-election-what-happens-to-the-united-states.537355/|Theodore Roosevelt gets elected during the 1912 election: What Happens to The United States?]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256335|WI Woodrow Wilson dies during the 1912 elections ?]]** | * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-theodore-roosevelt-wins-the-1912-presidential-election.320517/|WI: Theodore Roosevelt wins the 1912 presidential election.]]** |
| | * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/if-teddy-roosevelt-won-in-1912-how-would-this-affect-america%E2%80%99s-participation-in-ww1.469725/|If Teddy Roosevelt won in 1912, how would this affect America’s participation in WW1?]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260240|What does it take to get a Socialist into the White House ?]]** | * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-tr-wins-the-1912-republican-nomination.494789/|WI: TR Wins the 1912 Republican Nomination]]** |
| | * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/us-postwar-politics-if-roosevelt-won-in-1912.501905/|US postwar politics if Roosevelt won in 1912]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=207308|WI OTL First Ladies became President ?]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=304288|Challenge: Make Theodore Roosevelt be considered the worst American president]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256335|WI Woodrow Wilson dies during the 1912 elections ?]]** |
| Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260240|What does it take to get a Socialist into the White House ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=207308|WI OTL First Ladies became President ?]]** |
| | * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. |
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| === The Interwar period and World War II === | === The Interwar period and World War II === |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260240|What does it take to get a Socialist into the White House ?]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260240|What does it take to get a Socialist into the White House ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259939|WI: President Henry Wallace]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259939|WI: President Henry Wallace]]** | * **[[pods:Huey Long]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=372877|How could America get a socialist president ?]]** |
| **[[pods:Huey Long]]** | * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. |
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| Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. | |
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| === The Cold War === | === The Cold War === |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255731|WI: No Richard Nixon]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255731|WI: No Richard Nixon]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=177199|Nixon Beats Kennedy]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=177199|Nixon Beats Kennedy]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=144345|WI: Nixon Elected in 1960]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257501|WI: Edward Heath survives]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=144345|WI: Nixon Elected in 1960]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257497|Challenge: Modern Grover Cleveland]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259814|WI: Truman Killed in 1950]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257501|WI: Edward Heath survives]]** | * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266144|Could Eisenhower win as a Democrat in 1952 ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257883|WI: Johnson/Kennedy in 1956]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257497|Challenge: Modern Grover Cleveland]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=160141|Barrack Obama born as a female]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=319584|WI Lee Harvey Oswald kills Jackie Kennedy instead (by accident) ?]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259814|WI: Truman Killed in 1950]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=148422|Challenge: President Billy Graham]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=252864|WI: Hubert Humphrey wins the Popular Vote in 1968]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257883|WI: Johnson/Kennedy in 1956]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259102|WI: George Wallace selected anyone but Curtis LeMay as his running mate in the 1968 elections]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256755|WI: George Wallace wins the Democratic Nomination in 1976 ?]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=160141|Barrack Obama born as a female]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=214881|Could Kennedy avoid assassination ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257576|Challenge: Save president Kennedy]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=148422|Challenge: President Billy Graham]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256579|WI: Callaghan called the early election in 1978 ?]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256859|Challenge: Ruin Ronald Reagan's legacy]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=252864|WI: Hubert Humphrey wins the Popular Vote in 1968]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261371|WI: Joe Biden ran for president in '88 ?]]** |
| | * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259102|WI: George Wallace selected anyone but Curtis LeMay as his running mate in the 1968 elections]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256755|WI: George Wallace wins the Democratic Nomination in 1976 ?]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=214881|Could Kennedy avoid assassination ?]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257576|Challenge: Save president Kennedy]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256579|WI: Callaghan called the early election in 1978 ?]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256859|Challenge: Ruin Ronald Reagan's legacy]]** | |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261371|WI: Joe Biden ran for president in '88 ?]]** | |
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| Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. | |
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| === Post-Cold War === | === Post-Cold War === |
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| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=25572|Better Perot Campaign]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=25572|Better Perot Campaign]]** |
| | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255865|WI: Bill Clinton dies of a heart attack, in office]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255865|WI: Bill Clinton dies of a heart attack, in office]]** | * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257268|Challenge: Bill Clinton impeached]]** |
| | * **[[2012 US presidential election]]** |
| **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257268|Challenge: Bill Clinton impeached]]** | * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. |
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| Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. | ---- |
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| ==== See Also ==== | ==== Navigation ==== |
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| **[[pods:usa|United States of America Points of Divergence]]** | **[[pods:usa|United States of America Points of Divergence]]** |
