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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/tolkien-what-if-fingolfin-defeated-morgoth.409277/|WI Fingolfin defeated Morgoth ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=121226|Fingon's army survives the Battle of Unnumbered Tears]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-good-orcs-in-tolkiens-works.429792/|WI "good" Orcs in Tolkien's works ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=243058|Turin marries Finduilas]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=142500|Only part of Beleriand sinks]]**
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   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=199896|Galadriel marries Annatar]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=245417|Who are the Nazgul ?]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=229913|Tar-Miriel becomes Ruling Queen]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=229913|Tar-Miriel becomes ruling queen of Númenor]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=286415|WI: Ar-Pharazon didn't attack Valinor ?]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lotr-wi-civil-war-between-supporters-of-tar-miriel-and-pharazon.392974/|WI: Civil war between supporters of Tar-Miriel and Ar-Pharazon]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=227096|Arda WI : Aragorn raised by hobbits]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-hobbit-military.409708/|WI: Hobbit military]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lotr-ch-save-middle-earth-w-o-bilbo.288988/|Challenge: Save Middle-Earth without the help of Bilbo]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lotr-gandalf-never-met-thorin.139320/|Gandalf never met Thorin]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=103825|Bilbo kills Gollum (1)]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-hobbit-wi-bilbo-kills-gollum.347910/|Bilbo kills Gollum (2)]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-bilbo-never-told-gollum-who-he-was-and-where-he-was-from.287296/|WI Bilbo never told Gollum who he was and where he was from ?]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternate-enemy-victorious-hobbit-lotr-scenario.382094/|Sauron isn't removed from Dol Guldur but Bilbo still has the One Ring and returns to the Shire]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/gandalf-and-bilbo-stop-at-lothlorien-after-bo5a.199618/|Gandalf and Bilbo stop at Lothlorien after Battle of the Five Armies]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=199618|Bilbo stops at Lothlorien on way home]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=139320|Gandalf doesn't meet Thorin]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=79151|Frodo leaves Hobbiton earlier]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=165599|Gandalf takes the Ring]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lotr-wi-gandalf-uses-the-ring-of-power.278979/|WI Gandalf uses the Ring of Power ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=232283|Gandalf joins Saruman]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lotrc-switch-the-fates-of-saruman-and-gandalf.300558/|Challenge: Switch the fates of Saruman and Gandalf]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-saruman-repents.392886/|WI: Saruman repents]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-frodo-doesnt-make-it-to-rivendell-in-time-or-wraith-frodo.252456/|WI Frodo doesn't make it to Rivendell in time ? Or Wraith Frodo ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=230591|Gildor escorts Frodo to Rivendell]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=89311|The Ring is taken to the Grey Havens]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=230004|Gandalf survives Moria]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/frodo-killed-by-the-spear-in-moria.274905/|Frodo killed by the spear in Moria]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=230004|Gandalf survives Moria (1)]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lord-of-the-rings-gandalf-wi.220310/|Gandalf survives Moria (2)]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=294242|Gandalf dies in Moria and stays dead]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/would-galadriel-rescue-gandalf.388331/|Plausibility check: Would Galadriel rescue Gandalf ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=80122|Boromir holds out longer]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=70600|Boromir survives]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=238595|Western Eriador Contributes]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=201767|Harad stays out of War of the Ring]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-gollum-gets-killed-faramir-joins-frodo-and-sam.323617/|WI: Gollum gets killed, Faramir joins Frodo and Sam]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=80271|Rohan loses at Helm's Deep]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=138290|Gollum dies; Sauron wins]]**
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 ==== Crossovers with other fictional universes ====
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76617|Sauron and Ringwraiths replace Voldemort and Death Eaters]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=73982|The Misplaced Legion in Fourth Age Gondor]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=73982|The Misplaced Legion in Fourth Age Gondor]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=204370|Grantville in Middle-Earth (1)]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=131128|Grantville in Middle-Earth (2)]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/gandalf-vs-dumbledore.29490/|Gandalf vs. Dumbledore]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=68515|Gandalf replaces Dumbledore]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76617|Sauron and Ringwraiths replace Voldemort and Death Eaters]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=87700|Witch-King takes over the Death Eaters]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/inspired-by-edvaders-thread-gandalf-dumbledore-thread.68557/|Harry and Ron replace Frodo and Sam]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=245032|Thangorodrim and Beleriand ISOTed to Westeros]]**
+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=320066|WI: Mordor ISOTed into ASOIAF]]**
+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=320601|ISOT WI: Numenor vs the Valyrian Freehold]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/asoiaf-wi-the-noldor-in-westeros.359710/|WI: The Noldor in Westeros]]**
+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265197|Fire Nation in Middle-Earth]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=199292|Valinor ISOTed to Thedas]]**
+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=355200|Dwemer settlements and mines ISOTed to Ered Luin dwarven settlements and mines]]**
+  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=169385|The Lord of the Swords]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=116149|Lord of the Gates]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=200791|1000 Klingon Warriors ISOTed to Helms Deep]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=245032|Thangorodrim and Beleriand ISOTed to Westeros]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=207263|Hobbit Trek]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=202728|USS Enterprise encounters Middle Earth]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=204370|Grantville in Middle-Earth 1]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=131128|Grantville in Middle-Earth 2]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=196055|Mordor ISOTed to Pandora]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=169385|The Lord of the Swords]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=199292|Valinor ISOTed to Thedas]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=87700|Witch-King takes over the Death Eaters]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-x-men-isoted-to-lotr.278497/|WI X-men ISOTed to LOTR]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lotr-x-wo-men-style-a-mutant-fellowship.297246/|LOTR X-(wo)men Style: A Mutant Fellowship]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265197|Fire Nation in Middle-Earth]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=320066|WI: Mordor ISOTed into ASOIAF]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=320601|ISOT WI: Numenor vs the Valyrian Freehold]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=355200|Dwemer settlements and mines ISOTed to Ered Luin dwarven settlements and mines]]**
   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.
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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/pop-culture-what-if-what-if-there-was-no-tolkien.407831/|What if there was no Tolkien ?]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/tolkien-general-discussion-thread.297280/page-28#post-11349989|Two PODs early in the life of Tolkien]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=302383|WI: J. R. R. Tolkien dies in World War I (1)]]**
-  * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?p=9019028|WI: J. R. R. Tolkien dies in World War I (2)]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-9019028|WI: J. R. R. Tolkien dies in World War I (2)]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=15024|Tolkien and C.S. Lewis killed on the Western Front]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=268318|Tolkien of Arabia: WI Tolkien assigned as a soldier in Arab Revolt alongside T. E. Lawrence and his experiences shape his writing about Arda and Middle Earth ?]]**
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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-j-r-r-tolkien-completes-and-publishes-the-silmarillion.299076/|WI J.R.R. Tolkien completes and publishes the Silmarillion ?]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-tolkien-publishes-silmarillion-before-writing-lotr.191279/|WI Tolkien publishes Silmarillion before writing LOTR ?]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/cultural-wi-tolkien-and-c-s-lewis-had-died-in-a-fire-in-the-eagle-and-child-pub.212775/|WI: Tolkien and C.S. Lewis had died in a fire at the Eagle and Child pub in March 1938]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/no-lotr.294127/|No Lord of the Rings]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/cultural-history-challenge-the-war-of-the-jewels-lotr.245793/|Challenge: The War of the Jewels & LOTR]]**
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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-lord-of-the-rings-is-published-as-seven-books.83324/|The Lord of the Rings is published as seven books]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-j-r-r-tolkien-didnt-publish-the-lord-of-the-rings.14844/|WI J.R.R. Tolkien didn't publish The Lord of the Rings during his lifetime (until the 1970s)]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-tolkien-lives-longer.231730/|WI: Tolkien lives longer ?]]**
   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.
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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-beatles-produced-lord-of-the-rings-adaptation.312142/|WI: Beatles-produced "Lord of the Rings" adaptation]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/kubrick-adapts-lotr.182197/|Kubrick Adapts LOTR]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=248656|70s cast for Lord of The Rings]]**
+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=248656|70s cast for The Lord of The Rings]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=155592|Stanley Kubrick's 1974 psychedelic Lord of the Rings project, starring the Beatles]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266162|John Boorman's LOTR adaptation gets made in the 70s]]**
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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/a-really-good-animated-lotr.298903/|Plausibility check: A really good animated LOTR pre-2000]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/challenge-anime-version-of-lord-of-the-rings.217408/|Challenge: Anime version of Lord of the Rings]]**
-  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dbwi-new-line-cinemas-makes-the-lord-of-the-rings-trilogy-instead-of-the-foundation-series.405561/|DBWI: New Line Cinemas makes the Lord Of The Rings trilogy Instead of the Foundation series ?]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dbwi-new-line-cinemas-makes-the-lord-of-the-rings-trilogy-instead-of-the-foundation-series.405561/|DBWI: New Line Cinema makes The Lord Of The Rings trilogy instead of the Foundation series ?]]**
-  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dbwi-peter-jackson-directed-the-lord-of-the-rings-trilogy.270143/|DBWI: Peter Jackson Directed the Lord of the Rings Trilogy]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dbwi-peter-jackson-directed-the-lord-of-the-rings-trilogy.270143/|DBWI: Peter Jackson directed The Lord of the Rings Trilogy]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-peter-jackson-had-the-rights-to-the-full-tolkien-legendarium.250391/|WI Peter Jackson had the rights to the full Tolkien legendarium]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=143854|Silmarillion movie (by Jackson or others)]]**
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   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=131366|Marxist theory applied to Middle-Earth]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=71727|Middle-Earth Immigration Officials Swamped by Waves of Arriving Geeks]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/galadriel-gandalf-and-elrond-get-bodyswapped.158452/|Galadriel, Gandalf, and Elrond get bodyswapped]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=300046|How big was Sauron's army during the war of the ring ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=144769|If the War of the Ring had actually resembled WWII]]**
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 **[[timelines:based_on_existing_fiction#j_r_r_tolkien|Timelines based on Tolkien's works]]**
+**[[https://www.oocities.org/davidbofinger/ame.htm|David Bofinger's website with Legendarium PODs]]** (archived version)
 **[[offtopic:Tolkienist Cabal]]**
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 **[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]**