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| **First Introduction** | **First Introduction** |
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| The Flag Bill was first introduced on the first day of the [[2009 Parliament#2009 - 2010 Parliamentary session]]. The idea of a flag representing the Imperial Republic of AH.Com had previously been a plank in the [[Escutcheonist Party]] platform and had been tossed around at least once on the [[alternate_history:flag_thread#Flag Thread]]. In Parliament the issue was first broached by [[Ryder]] as Minister of Information, and [[lothaw]] wrote and sponsored the Bill presented to Parliament. | The Flag Bill was first introduced on the first day of the [[2009 Parliament#2009 - 2010 Parliamentary session]]. The idea of a flag representing the Imperial Republic of AH.Com had previously been a plank in the [[Escutcheonist Party]] platform and had been tossed around at least once on the [[alternate_history:Flag Thread]]. In Parliament the issue was first broached by [[Ryder]] as Minister of Information, and [[lothaw]] wrote and sponsored the Bill presented to Parliament. |
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| The bill called for the creation of a committee to oversee the process of creating a flag. The committee would select finalists from an open vexilological competition, and the official flag would be selected from among the finalists via public referendum. Some discussion centered on the makeup of the Flag Committee, including some proposed amendments dictating that committee seats be divided among the parties, but ultimately lothaw's original bill was the one voted upon. [[Stalin's Pipe Organs]] drafted and introduced an amended version requiring all designs to have a hammer and sickle; this version received no support. | The bill called for the creation of a committee to oversee the process of creating a flag. The committee would select finalists from an open vexillological competition, and the official flag would be selected from among the finalists via public referendum. Some discussion centered on the makeup of the Flag Committee, including some proposed amendments dictating that committee seats be divided among the parties, but ultimately lothaw's original bill was the one voted upon. [[Stalin's Pipe Organs]] drafted and introduced an amended version requiring all designs to have a hammer and sickle; this version received no support. |
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| Shortly after the Flag Bill was introduced, the [[Military Bill]], [[Direct Democracy Bill]], [[Term Limits Bill]], and [[Appointee Confirmation Bill]] were brought before Parliament in quick succession and became the subject of intense debate, ultimately leading to the [[Parliamentary Brawl of 2009]]. In that climate, a number of "Nay" votes and one abstention were cast on the grounds that the "flag issue" was frivolous compared with Parliament's other pressing business. Ultimately, the Flag Bill was shelved as part of the 24-hour recess following the Brawl. | Shortly after the Flag Bill was introduced, the [[Military Bill]], [[Direct Democracy Bill]], [[Term Limits Bill]], and [[Appointee Confirmation Bill]] were brought before Parliament in quick succession and became the subject of intense debate, ultimately leading to the [[Parliamentary Brawl of 2009]]. In that climate, a number of "Nay" votes and one abstention were cast on the grounds that the "flag issue" was frivolous compared with Parliament's other pressing business. Ultimately, the Flag Bill was shelved as part of the 24-hour recess following the Brawl. |
| **Reintroduction** | **Reintroduction** |
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| Vice-President [[LightInfra]] reintroduced the Flag Bill in its original language immediately following the recess. This time, in the less contentious post-Brawl climate, it passed without a single Nay vote or abstention. President [[TheDarkServant]] signed it into law together with the [[Imperial Arms Bill]] on August 20, 2009. | Vice-President [[LightInfa]] reintroduced the Flag Bill in its original language immediately following the recess. This time, in the less contentious post-Brawl climate, it passed without a single Nay vote or abstention. President [[TheDarkServant]] signed it into law together with the [[Imperial Arms Bill]] on August 20, 2009. |
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| **Executing the Bill** | **Executing the Bill** |
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| After a week of rather fruitless debate on some failed bills and some issues (such as Presidential Titles) that never made it to bill form, [[Susano]] and, some days later, [[maverick]] reminded the Parliament that the Flag Committee had yet to be chosen. On August 29, Susano finally included a Flag Committee in the [[1st Commitees Bill of 2009]], which also addressed military hardware purchases. The committee included [[Krall]] (SS) to represent EVIL's coalition, [[Benkarnell]] (ESP) to represent FFF's coaliton, [[Maharajah]] because it was deemed appropriate to represent an additional ESP member who was a Landsraad member to boot, and [[The Red]], Minister of Propaganda. | After a week of rather fruitless debate on some failed bills and some issues (such as Presidential Titles) that never made it to bill form, [[Susano]] and, some days later, [[maverick]] reminded the Parliament that the Flag Committee had yet to be chosen. On August 29, Susano finally included a Flag Committee in the [[1st Commitees Bill of 2009]], which also addressed military hardware purchases. The committee included [[Krall]] (BWS) to represent EVIL's coalition, [[Benkarnell]] (ESP) to represent FFF's coaliton, [[Maharajah]] because it was deemed appropriate to represent an additional ESP member who was a Landsraad member to boot, and [[The Red]], Minister of Propaganda. |
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| [[OAM47]], as Minister of Employment, opened and presided over the [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=134193|AH.com Flag Selection Contest]], a [[alternate_history:map_and_flag_contests#flag contest]] in the Books and Media forum. The contest was open for submissions between September 2 and 14. The Flag Committee, predictably, has yet to meet, much less select finalists and devise a means for voting on them. Maharajah has proposed a suitably labrynthian method for weeding out entries, but other Committee members have not commented on it. | [[OAM47]], as Minister of Employment, opened and presided over the [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=134193|AH.com Flag Selection Contest]], a [[alternate_history:map_and_flag_contests#flag contest]] in the Books and Media forum. The contest was open for submissions between September 2 and 14. The Flag Committee, predictably, has yet to meet, much less select finalists and devise a means for voting on them. Maharajah has proposed a suitably labrynthian method for weeding out entries, but other Committee members have not commented on it. |
| **Voted Nay** | **Voted Nay** |
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| [[Krall]] (SS), [[Jimbrock]] (FFF) (2) | [[Krall]] (BWS), [[Jimbrock]] (FFF) (2) |
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| **Abstained** | **Abstained** |
| **Voted Aye** | **Voted Aye** |
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| [[lothaw]] (E), [[maverick]] (E), [[Patriot]] (E), [[Paladin]] (E), [[Krall]] (SS), [[Jimbrock]] (FFF), [[Susano]] (FFF), [[Don Giorgio]] (FFF), [[Benkarnell]] (ESP), [[ImperialVienna]] (ESP), [[Iori]] (DISPPR), [[Communist Wizard]] (BBP), [[Stalin's Pipe Organs]] (PRSP), [[oakvale]] (Ind) (14) | [[lothaw]] (E), [[maverick]] (E), [[Patriot]] (E), [[Paladin]] (E), [[Krall]] (BWS), [[Jimbrock]] (FFF), [[Susano]] (FFF), [[Don Giorgio]] (FFF), [[Benkarnell]] (ESP), [[ImperialVienna]] (ESP), [[Iori]] (DISPPR), [[Communist Wizard]] (BBP), [[Stalin's Pipe Organs]] (PRSP), [[oakvale]] (Ind) (14) |
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| [[Douglas]] (E) submitted an Aye vote after the bill had already been signed into law. | [[Douglas]] (E) submitted an Aye vote after the bill had already been signed into law. |
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| [[2009 - 2010 Legislation]] | [[2009 - 2010 Legislation]] |
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