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 ====== Map and Flag Challenges ======
-Usually to be found in the form of a Map Challenge, Flag Challenges are much rarer.
+Usually to be found in the form of **[[Map Challenges|Map Challenges]]**, with **[[Flag Challenges]]** being rarer.
-Not to be confused with the **[[alternate history:AH Challenge]]** in which a question is posed: "Challenge: How can we get a Muslim CSA by 1734?" Map Challenges are more of the 'what happened here' type, in which a map is posted and the poster asks viewers to surmise how the world got to that stage.
+**Not to be confused with** the **[[alternate history:AH Challenge]]** in which a POD question is posed (e.g. "Challenge: How can we get a Muslim CSA by 1734 ?"). Instead, Map Challenges are more of the 'what happened here' type, in which a map is posted and the poster asks viewers to surmise how the world got to that stage.
-Often the original poster doesn't quite know themselves and is hunting for ideas from the viewers. Sometimes this can still provoke useful discussion and eventually a collaborative timeline. A Map Challenge by [[offtopic:Hermanubis]] (see thread here: [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=1188|Medieval Map]]) created the successful [[timelines:ATL Dark Ages Map]] Timeline by [[offtopic:Midgard]].
+Often, the original poster doesn't quite know themselves and is hunting for ideas from the viewers. Sometimes this can still provoke useful discussion and eventually a collaborative timeline. For example, an older Map Challenge by [[offtopic:Hermanubis]], seen in the thread [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=11883|Medieval Map]], created the successful [[timelines:ATL Dark Ages Map]] TL, written by [[offtopic:Midgard]].
-However, if the original poster comes across as lazy or reacts indignantly when people fail to justify the political prejudices that informed the map, things get ugly.
+However, if the original poster comes across as lazy or reacts indignantly when people fail to justify the political prejudices that informed the map, things get ugly. [[offtopic:Gladi]] created a put-down for the lazier Map Challenges : "How did we get this map? Easy, you drew some lines on a blank map and coloured it in".
-[[offtopic:Gladi]] created a put-down for the lazier Map Challenges - "How did we get this map? Easy, you drew some lines on a blank map and coloured it in".
+Map and Flag Challenges are also distinct from Map and Flag Contests, which are just that. While the M&P Challenges are a kind of one-off logic game for one's imagination, M&P contests involve the creation of alternate history maps and flags by multiple members for contest purposes. (Though it also needs to be said that one currently running contest //is named// the 'Weekly Flag Challenge', with //no intended// relation to the usual map and flag challenges.)
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+==== See Also ====
+**[[Map and Flag Contests]]** - Contests involving making alternate history maps and flags within the framework of differently themed individual rounds, and subsequent voting for the winner of each contest round.
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+==== Navigation ====
+**[[Maps and Flags]]**
+**[[Alternate History Media]]**