TheDetailer, could you please tell me how different the 90s Batman movies are compared to their OTL versions. I know the fifth one Batman Triumphant was planned but cancelled after Batman & Robin bombed.
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Batman 1 and 2 are the same as OTL, while the third is directed by Burton instead of Schumacher, alongside Keaton returning to reprise his role, which results in it being much better recived than IOTL, the 4th movie is a little better (39% on RT compared to 12%), while the 5th and final film in the series is the one that bombs ITTL.
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- The Owl House isn’t cancelled after two seasons by Disney ITTL, instead a full several episodes-long third season is greenlit by Disney due to a mix of high ratings and fan backlash upon discovering the attempt to cancel the show by higher-ups, much to the cast and crew’s delight, which is followed by the announcement of a fourth season soon before Season 3 concludes.
- Amphibia stays the exact same as IOTL for the most part, with the exceptions of Season 3 lasting 20 episodes like the previous two seasons ITTL (so 60 episodes in total ITTL), and the season itself being less divisively-received amongst the fanbase. New content still gets released by Matt after the series’ conclusion just like IOTL.
- Adobe decides not to discontinue Adobe Flash, due them fixing the zero day exploit, and starts development on a newer, more power-efficient Flash to compete with HTML5.
- NFTs don’t survive beyond 2022, with stronger actions having been taken against them by both the public and many governments, with the environment and online artists being much better off as a result.
- Windows XP never stops being supported by Microsoft, instead of having it’s support ended in 2014.
- Spider-Man: No Way Home is mostly the same film as IOTL in all of its hyped-up multiverse crossover glory, with the exceptions of Thomas Haden Church and Rhys Ifans being able to appear in person instead of solely in voice as their characters of Flint Marko/the Sandman and Dr. Curtis "Curt" Connors/the Lizard respectively, alongside Stan Lee making one last cameo before his passing ITTL.
- The 1914 Lubin vault fire, the 1937 Fox vault fire, the 1965 MGM vault fire, the 1978 Suitland National Archives Film Vault Fire, the 2005 Aardman Fire, and the 2008 Universal Studios Fire are all prevented for one reason or another throughout the years, with everything lost in those fires being saved ITTL.
- Quirino Cristiani’s studios don’t burn down in 1918, 1926, 1957, or 1961, which as a result his films are not lost forever.
- Sigur Ros and Of Monsters and Men are both more popular, with Iceland gaining a special reputation on the world music scene.
- OneRepublic are more popular.
- American Authors are more popular.
- Mumford and Sons are more popular.
- The Lumineers are more popular.
- Jinja Safari are more popular.
- AJR are more popular.
- Stan Lee and his wife Joan both live three years longer than in IOTL, with Joan passing away in July 2020, and Stan in November 2021.
- Megamind and the first Despicable Me film swap box offices, with the former making $543.2 million, while the latter makes $321.9 million. Megamind’s success as a result makes Dreamworks more confident in their own style of films, while Illumination, who are still happy at their success despite making less money at the box office compared to IOTL, continue to put in effort, care, and passion into their films, with both studios continuing to be successful during the 2010s in their own special ways.
- Dreamworks’ Rise of the Guardians is also a box office success in 2012, which leads to Me and My Shadow being successfully finished and released in 2014, which is also financially and critically successful.
- Dreamworks’ Larrikins is released in 2018.
- The Lego Movie Sequel is released in 2018 as originally intended, followed by the Billion Brick Race in 2019, both to very strong positive reviews by both critics and audiences.
- American Dragon: Jake Long goes on for a few more seasons, without the plots about the Huntsclan, the Dark Dragon, or the show in general being rushed in season 2 as a result, with the show finally concluding with it’s series finale in 2012.
- Constant Payne gets atleast a full season in 2001 before (controversially) being cancelled by Nickelodeon.
- Edd Gould lives, overcoming his blood leukaemia in 2012, going on to continue his popular webseries Eddsworld, and helping co-create Super Average alongside his friend TomSka. Meanwhile, the Eddsworld channel, becoming a major leader and glue in the online animation community, would host plenty of fan content, such as the gender swapped AU.
- Colin Wyckoff also lives and continues making his signature style of Gmod and gaming videos, with Garry’s Mod enjoying a resurgence in popularity for the game alongside other classics such as Minecraft in the late 2010s and early 2020s.
- Toonsmyth Productions manages to survive his diabetes in 2014, continuing his Cartoon Hunger Games and other animated works.
- brain4breakfast would be able to manage to avoid death and live to the present day, where he would help to popularize history as a genre and subject on Youtube, alongside many other Youtubers such as OverSimplified, Drew Durnil, Overly Sarcastic Productions, Epic History TV, Mr. Beat, The Cynical Historian, History Matters, Mr. Terry History, and many, many others, alongside the alternate history community too, which took off soon afterwards.
- Kaiser1871 doesn’t die in a car crash in October of 2019, continuing to work on his HOI4 mods and contribute to the alternate history scene to this very day.
- Anton Yelchin lives when he narrowly avoids being crushed by his car in June 2016, going on to voice Jim Lake in Trollhunters.
- Micheal Clarke Duncan lives, where he continues to star in movies to this very day.
- Christina Grimme lives, surviving the attempt on her life in 2016, continuing her music career into the late 2010s and early 2020s and beyond.
- Chadwick Boseman makes a recovery from his cancer in 2020 and lives, returning to play T’Chala in the MCU.
- Alan Rickman lives, continuing to star in movies to this very day.
- John Hurt lives, continuing to star in movies and television shows to this very day.
- James Gandolfini lives, continuing to find work later on in the 2010s like fellow acclaimed TV actor Bryan Cranston.
- Peter Sallis lives to be 100 in 2021, passing away peacefully afterwards.
- Betty White also lives long enough to see her 100th birthday in 2022 before passing away.
- Fred Rogers lives for another ten years, passing away in 2013.
- Bob Ross lives for another ten years, passing away in 2005.
- Billy Mays lives for a few more years, passing away in 2011.
- Steve Irwin lives, with the Sting Ray narrowly avoiding his heart on that fateful trip in 2006. After he recovers he and his family continue to dedicate their lives to loving and protecting animals and nature into the 2010s and beyond, helping to improve the environment and the safety and livelihood of all animals everywhere along the way.
- Ottis Redding lives a year longer, dying on December 10th, 1968 at the age of 27 and as a result joining the 27 Club.
- Avicii lives and gets help for his mental health along the way, returning to music after he recovers, while also helping spread awareness about mental health in general in order to help others like him. He also collars with other artists like Coldplay and Imagine Dragons.
- Rick May lives, narrowly avoiding dying from COVID in April 2020, and is still alive as of the present day, still doing voice work from time to time, most notably Team Fortress 2.
- Cliff Robertson lives a year longer, passing away in September 2012.
- Heath Ledger lives longer, avoiding his original death in January 2008 and living to see the Dark Knight release to the same acclaim as IOTL, finish up filming The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, win the same Oscar he posthumously won IOTL, star in a few more movies and other projects, and then go on to reprise his role as the Joker in the Dark Knight Rises, where he unfortunately dies a similar death in January 2012, causing the same reaction and mourning that his OTL death caused, with the Dark Knight Rises being his final film role, and the movie being dedicated to him in his memory as a result.
- Danny Phantom Season 3 is not rushed, with the show going on for a few more seasons afterwards before coming to a conclusion in 2010.
- Greg Weisman is able to make Gargoyles Season 3 the way he wanted to, with the third and final season being received just as well as the previous two seasons that came before it.
- The Spectacular Spider-Man also goes on for a few more seasons until concluding in 2012, continuing the stories of Peter, Harry, Gwen, MJ, Flash, and the other characters.
- Harvey Beaks becomes more popular and thus become one of Nickelodeon's major runners up to the current day.
- Terry Gilliam directs the first two Harry Potter movies in 2001 and 2002, with Chris Columbus serving as the lead producer. Alfonso Cuarron and Mike Newell direct the third and fourth movies just like IOTL, and Guillermo Del Toro directs the final four movies from 2007 to 2011, with David Yates serving as a producer.
- There are many changes made to the Harry Potter series to remove and/or change stuff that wouldn’t age very well in hindsight, I.e the Goblins, Cho Chang’s name, and the House Elf slavery. Other than that it’s pretty much the same boy wizard franchise that everyone knows and loves.
- Chicken Little sticks to the original idea of Chicken Little being a girl character voiced by Holly Hunter, resulting in a much better movie being made, being released in July 2005 instead of November.
- Pixar’s Brave is much better made than IOTL without any of Lasseter’s meddling, with Chapman being able to make the film she wanted to make.
- Hotel Transylvania receives much better sequels, with the 4th and final film released in September 2022, ending the film series exactly 10 years after its initial release.
- Laika’s movies are more successful at the box office. Kubo and the Two Strings for example makes twice as much at the box office than IOTL ($155 million).
- Wreck It Ralph also receives a much better sequel in 2018, focusing on console and online gaming instead of it basically being Disney’s own version of The Emoji Movie. The film would also focus more on Felix and Calhoun and their subplot.
- The Disney Princesses from OTL’s Ralph Breaks the Internet are saved up instead for a big massive film project by Disney in 2023, to celebrate Disney’s 100th year anniversary. A lot of the other Disney stuff from the original film (the cameos, etc.) goes into this ITTL film aswell.
- Jack Black replaces Chris Pratt as Barley Lightfoot in Pixar’s Onward, with the rest of the film being similar to OTL.
- Pixar's films Luca and Turning Red are both released into theaters like they were supposed to, instead of being released directly onto Disney+. Both movies would eventually end up on DVD, Blu-Ray and Disney+ a few months after they come out into theatres.
- Speaking of which, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, Moonknight, Ms. Marvel, and Obi-Wan Kenobi are all movies instead of Disney+ shows ITTL.
- Chip n Dale: Rescue Rangers (2022) contains actual 2D animation, stop motion, and puppetry, instead of solely relying on CGI most of the time.
- Star Trek: The Original Series runs for more than three seasons, being much more popular and successful than IOTL, concluding in 1971 with a bang, as seen in Blue Skies in Camelot and other similar alternatehistory.com works.
- The 1960s Batman show set does not burn down in 1968 and lasts a season longer.
- Y: The Last Man receives a much better television adaptation in 2021, which is renewed for a second season ITTL. The androcide scene at the end of Episode 1 lasts around 2 minutes longer than OTL’s 1 minute and 53 second one. It features much more scenes of the men collapsing and dying around the world much like the OTL comic, showing scenes from outside America like Israel, the Middle East, Japan, the Vatican/Italy, the Netherlands, Brazil, Russia, Africa, and other countries and places too. It still ends with the blood covering the map, symbolising the plague/virus spreading across the world quickly and rapidly.
- The Last of Us 2 is not as divisively received, being more similarly received like Red Dead Redemption 2 was.
- Filthy Frank goes on for atleast another year before Joji fully retires the character and project as a whole in late 2018, wrapping up all the characters and their arcs and their stories, with him moving on to his music career as in OTL.
- PewDiePie and Jontron both avoid the controversies that involved them being accused of being Nazis, and hence they are not let go from projects like Scare PewDiePie Season 2 and Yooka-Laylee respectivley.
- Pewdiepie reaches 100 million subscribers before being dethroned as the biggest Youtuber, being replaced by another individual Youtuber and not a corporation like T-Series. Particularly an Asian YouTuber, with there still being an aurora of “west vs east” that at the end of the day is still harmless and fun, and doesn’t end in a mass shooting occurring in New Zealand in 2018, with the perpetrator being arrested just in time before they could kill 51 innocent people.
- Paul "Bear" Vasquez aka the Double Rainbow guy lives.
- No big YouTube animation channels try to milk the SCP Foundation for profit with quantity-over-quality videos, which as a result leaves the smaller, but much more passionate, real, and down to earth SCP channels like TheHauntedReader, SCP ILLUSTRATED, and TheVolgun who are genuine, bonafide members of the community that care for quality over quantity to prosper and grow popular in their place instead.
- JibJab makes Year in Review videos for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2022 like they did from 2005 to 2014 and again in 2020.
- Before moving onto the Lyosacks, murifan2008/Alvaro finishes "The Movie of the Century" series in 2012.
- Mako lives for ten more years, passing away on July 21st, 2016.
- Michael Jackson lives long enough to finish his highly anticipated This Is It tour in March 2010, before passing away due to similar circumstances to OTL 18 days after his last climatic performance, just like how he passed away 18 days before his concert was supposed to begin in June 2009 IOTL.
- The Monkees live longer, with Davy passing away in 2019, followed by Peter in 2021, with Dolnez and Nesmith both still being alive as of 2022.
- Harold Ramis lives long enough for a Ghostbusters 3 to be made in 2016 just like in Player Two Start, replacing OTL’s Ghostbusters reboot.
- Terry Pratchett lives a little while longer, with him being able to finish some more of his novels and writings, before passing away in March 2018.
- Colonel Sanders’ son, Harland Sanders Jr., does not die during a tonsillectomy in September 1932. As a result, Sanders goes on to run for Governor of Kentucky in 1955, serving for a single, popular and successful term, just like in the Kentucky Fried Politics timeline.
- Also like in Kentucky Fried Politics, due to many butterflies caused by some of the aforementioned divergences, Abigail Edna Disney becomes President of the Walt Disney Company in 2020, expressing interest in addressing issues such as poverty and climate change in future works made by the company, and has promised to help promote and champion progressive causes by creators within the company, such as LGBT representation (which is a major reason why The Owl House doesn’t get cancelled and cut down ITTL). All of which, of course, has caused plenty of controversy, backlash, and discussions, shaking up the worlds of business and entertainment, with many (not naming names) criticising Disney as trying to promote and push “the progressive agenda”, but on the other hand for a big corporation, many are impressed with the direction the granddaughter of Roy O. Disney is trying to take it, beyond a typical example of “rainbow capitalism.”
- Children of Men makes twice as much at the Box Office compared to IOTL ($141 million).
- Walt Disney’s Alice in Wonderland (1951) is a critical and financial success.
- The Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark’s 2019 movie is directed by Guillermo Del Toro.
- Spider-Man 2 makes more money than Spider-Man 1 did at the box office ITTL (Making around $858 million compared to OTL’s $789 million.) Other than that, it’s the same film as in from OTL.
- Blade Runner 2049 is more successful at the box office, grossing twice as much as OTL (518.6 million).
- Hideo Kojima’s Silent Hills is released in 2015 ITTL to massive critical and financial success.
- The MeToo/Time’s Up movement is kickstarted in the 1990s ITTL with Gary Glitter’s arrest in 1997 resulting in him ratting out Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, and Max Clifford the following year, followed by Harvey Weinstein being exposed in 1999 (as seen in Cobain Continues), which builds up over the years until the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein in 2007 and the near-death experience of Brad Renfro in 2008, which both basically become a watershed moment that breaks the camel’s back which results in most of the high profile abusers like Bill Cosby, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey, R. Kelly, and John K. to be exposed during the peak of the movement between 2008-2010 (as seen in A Gore Prosperous Tomorrow), dying down by the begging of 2011. As a result the entertainment industry cleans itself much earlier instead of begging in 2017, with an earlier awareness being brought around to sexism, harassment, and abuse in the workplace to the public eye as a result. As of today most of the controversies involving beloved celebrities being exposed as questionable or bad people that have occurred post-2010 have died down in numbers, either been avoided or are just isolated cases.
- Robin Williams lives, taking a break from acting to deal with his health; both physically and mentally, still being alive to this very day. He also never gets back into drinking back while filming in Alaska in 2003.
- Phil Hartman lives, takes care of his kids, and continues to star in the Simpsons and Newsradio, and eventually gets to finally star in a live action Troy McClure movie in the early 2000s.
- Gilbert Gottfried lives, still being alive and well and kicking as of late 2022.
- Grant Imahara lives and continues working with the cast and crew of Mythbusters.
- The Yogscast’s the Shadow of Israphel series manages to continue on past episode 42, concluding in 2013 with an epic, emotional, and overall satisfying finale that not only becomes a significant memory of many peoples childhoods, but also a core moment in Minecraft Youtube history.
- Google doesn’t buy YouTube in 2006, instead partnering and collaborating with them, so YouTube can stay as an independent company capable of their own decisions and choices, whilst collaborating and doing business with Google. Youtube’s annotations and dislikes are also both never removed from the site as a result, alongside there being no Adpocalypse in 2017 or Susan Wojcjcki as CEO in 2014, who still finds success as a businesswoman at Google ITTL.
- The ongoing oversimplification trend in logos during the 2010s and 2020s never takes off ITTL, with most companies keeping their original, iconic, and more beloved logos as of 2022.
- Halyna Hutchins survives being shot by Alec Baldwin in this timeline’s equivalent of the Rust shooting incident in 2021.
- Badfinger has a much happier outcome than what they got IOTL, with Pete Ham and Tom Evans both still being alive as of today.
- All four of the Beatles - John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and George Harrison - are all still alive as of 2022, with Lennon surviving being shot in 1980, and Harrison narrowly avoiding being stabbed in 1999. They reunited for Live Aid in 1985, becoming one of the most famous music performances of all time alongside Queen’s performance of their song We Are The Champions, and went on to make a return to international touring once again not long afterwards. Linda McCartney has a double mastectomy in 1994, basically making her an early proponent of the strategy used by Angelina Jolie. As such, she is still alive and she and Paul are still married, she continues to record and tour with Paul. In the present day, Lennon of course has a lot of hot spicy political and cultural opinions that make the news, meanwhile Harrison is just chilling and vibing making music and collaborating with his fellow musicians.
- HBO Max and Warner Bros.’s current controversy and scandal involving their cancelled shows and movies (I.e Batgirl and Infinity Train) eventually concludes with the side of the filmmakers, show-runners, animators, cast, and crew coming out victorious against the corporation which screwed them over, helped in no small part thanks to the massive public opinion and support behind them, shocking and surprising both Warner Bros. and the entertainment industry, with the new deal for animation movement being brought to the forefront as a result, as the industry once again is forced to deal with and go through another round of reforms and introspection, especially as news also starts to leak of the working conditions of VFX artists around the same time.
- Utopia manages to get a third season in 2015, which goes on to become just as praised and beloved as the original two seasons that came before it. Pyrocynical still makes his “The best (and worst) show you haven’t seen” video in 2021.
- Sliders runs for seven seasons with the original cast and production team, with no Kromaggs or “Quinn is really from another universe” storylines. Ken Steadman also doesn’t die in 1996 as a result of the aforementioned changes, with him still being alive as of today.
- Neil Armstrong and Valentina Tereshkova both land on the moon together on July 21st, 1969 in a joint American-Soviet moon mission, also as seen in Blue Skies in Camelot, and both astronauts/cosmonauts live to see the 50th year anniversary in 2019.
- J.K Simmons, Danny DeVito, Keanu Reeves, Tom Hanks, Brendan Frasier, Rosemary Harris, Maggie Smith, Christopher Lloyd, Michael Rosen, and David Attenborough are all guaranteed to live to see their 100th birthdays.
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MTV Films
MTV Films was the film production arm of Music Television (MTV), which it was established in 1995 by Viacom (then ViacomCBS, now Paramount Global). The studio's origins can be traced back around 1993 when MTV signed a two-picture deal with Geffen Pictures, in which only one film was (Joe's...
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With Michael Keaton reprising his role as Batman in Tim Burton's version of Batman Forever, will we also see Billy Dee Williams coming back to be Harvey Dent/Two-Face instead of being replaced by Tommy Lee Jones and Robin Williams playing The Riddler instead of Jim Carrey?
Also, how different would the alternate version of Batman & Robin be if it has a better reputation compared to the real life film?
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I think personally it would have the level of studio interference and poor writing that OTL Batman Forever did, while Batman Triumphant unfortunately has the level of OTL Batman & Robin.
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MTV Films
MTV Films was the film production arm of Music Television (MTV), which it was established in 1995 by Viacom (then ViacomCBS, now Paramount Global). The studio's origins can be traced back around 1993 when MTV signed a two-picture deal with Geffen Pictures, in which only one film was (Joe's...
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Your talent remains an inspiration for us all and part of me wants to ask for a logo for something in the future, but I don't wanna impose or sound rude ^^;I made a logo for this:
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MTV Films
MTV Films was the film production arm of Music Television (MTV), which it was established in 1995 by Viacom (then ViacomCBS, now Paramount Global). The studio's origins can be traced back around 1993 when MTV signed a two-picture deal with Geffen Pictures, in which only one film was (Joe's...
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While I think both films are great.
What is the POD to get them to preform better then they did in the OTL?
In light of the recent Saberspark video, here's what would happen in my utopia considering VeggieTales.
1: Qubo launches in 2002 as an NBC block first. The nitty gritty about this is a different story, but it butterflies the Discovery Kids partnership at the very least.
2: Because Big Idea Entertainment's properties actually make Christian content for secular families, VeggieTales, LarryBoy: The Cartoon Adventures, and 3-2-1 Penguins! are untouched from the transition from VHS tapes to broadcast television.
3: When DreamWorks gets the rights to VeggieTales, both Phil and Mike are put in a TV braintrust for DreamWorks Animation, since the CGI techniques in VeggieTales were historic enough to get Pixar's attention.
4: The Dead Sea Squirrels is a Peacock exclusive, co-produced by Big Idea and DreamWorks.
5: As you can guess by this point, the founding members of BIE are not fired from their jobs for profit-based reasons. They never do, in fact.
1: Qubo launches in 2002 as an NBC block first. The nitty gritty about this is a different story, but it butterflies the Discovery Kids partnership at the very least.
2: Because Big Idea Entertainment's properties actually make Christian content for secular families, VeggieTales, LarryBoy: The Cartoon Adventures, and 3-2-1 Penguins! are untouched from the transition from VHS tapes to broadcast television.
3: When DreamWorks gets the rights to VeggieTales, both Phil and Mike are put in a TV braintrust for DreamWorks Animation, since the CGI techniques in VeggieTales were historic enough to get Pixar's attention.
4: The Dead Sea Squirrels is a Peacock exclusive, co-produced by Big Idea and DreamWorks.
5: As you can guess by this point, the founding members of BIE are not fired from their jobs for profit-based reasons. They never do, in fact.
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Will there be more of this kind of stuff here? I think you can come up with some amazing stuff for animation.
Oh, trust me. In this thread, there's a lot of ideas for the animation medium alone.
I know, but I think you could come up with a lotta good stuff!
Thanks. There's probably more posts from me in this thread. Maybe you can look them up.
Here's My Two Cents Pop Culture Utopia Timeline!
- Jimmy Savile is killed in 1945 while working in a Coal Mine for the War effort when the end of a fellow miners pickaxe breaks off striking him in the skull, killing him instantly thus ending his career and crimes before it even happened in this timeline.
- Doctor Who and Dad's Army remain more or less the same expect none of the early episodes are wiped save their fans and creators a lot of heartbreak.
- James Beck who played Dad's Army character Private Walker lives throughout the entire series and continued to appear in a wide variety of character roles until his death in 2005.
- The Bond films remain the same except Timothy Dalton gives his final performance as the character in the 1992 film Enemy of my Enemy, very loosely based on the bond continuation novels License Renewed and Icebreaker by John Gardner.
- Owen Hart breaks his leg in rehearsals before his stunt in Kansas City this leads to the stunt being cancelled, thus saving his life he continued to wrestle eventually winning the WWE (then WWF) Intercontinental championship a third time before retiring in 2000. Owen currently works as a Wrestling Trainer at the Hart Dungeon and would be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame class of 2012 by his older brother Bret Hart.
- NASCAR Drivers Tim Richmond, The Allison Brothers, and Alan Kulwicki are all still alive and enjoyed much longer racing careers, before their respective retirements in the 2000s and 2010s.
- Agent Carter lasts three more seasons ending with Peggy becoming the agency's director and a cameo from Agent Coulson's father Robert Coulson.
- Arrow concludes after Five Seasons which feels more fitting since the shows promise was pretty much rapped up by then.
- The Simpsons caps off it's legendary run with The Simpsons Movie in 2007 and would be succeed by its equally popular spin off animated comedy anthology series Tales from Springfield.
- Marcia Wallace is still Alive and still voices Edna Krabappel-Flanders in Tales from Springfield to this very day.
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I pretty sure that Batman & Robin would probably have to be a little different in order to not have it bomb critically and financially like it did in OTL. Is the cast the same as the OTL movie or are there different actors playing the characters?
BTW, what's the plot of Batman Triumphant?
Sorry it took so long for me to reply and sorry to keep bugging you about the 90s Batman movies.
Around the same as OTL’s Schumacher film.
I think it would be similar to something like this from Player Two Start.
It’s okay! and understandable too! I guess I just wanted to do something nice for Batman fans.