WI: How to make the IRL United States resemble their Grand Theft Auto version as much as possible?

Anarchism?

As in the community owned and operated,we live together or we die alone

encouraging worker co-ops and housing co-ops, mutual aid, collectivize farming


Be the brash idiotic run and shoot blow up jump out of exploding planes

That's anarchism to you?


You clearly do not know enough about the philosophy and political thought. would you like some more information on it? I am genuinely open about it
Maybe "Anarcho" Capitalism would be a better choice of ideology if you want a society resembling GTA.
 
Maybe "Anarcho" Capitalism would be a better choice of ideology if you want a society resembling GTA.
'"One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, ‘our side,’ had captured a crucial word from the enemy . . . ‘Libertarians’ . . . had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over..."


Murray N. Rothbard, The Betrayal Of The American Right


I'll simply replace the word libertarian with anarchism and the sentence would rain mean the same
 
I played both and oh man they're really underrated. At least you get to play cops and the like this time. Shame their devs closed down, thus leaving Sleeping Dogs without a sequel (which I imagine if made, would be way different today... considering the current state of Hong Kongers today).
iirc the devs' plans for Sleeping Dogs 2 would have moved setting across the internal border to Shenzhen and Canton. So Hong Kong related drama likely wouldhave been skirted around even if the project wasn't killed. Huawei related drama on the other hand... :coldsweat:
 
I remember the first time playing GTA V as a teeneger back in 2015, thinking how funny that alt crazy american society was. Just one year later, 2016 elections happened, and then started, the hell's gates were open....
 
I remember the first time playing GTA V as a teeneger back in 2015
Just one year later, the hell's gates were open....
I remember when it came out too
My idea was to use a combination of the Jesus & Dragon Ball mods so I could be a smol SSJ shooting lasers at people while also using the ressurrection & conversion abilities to revive everyone as good bois and fly around making fish fall from the heavens, it was glorious

So anyways if that happens you know who's the responsible x3
 
Square Enix still owns the IP and a feature film is confirmed to be in development
I have a strong feeling it wouldn't likely be the same. After all, Square Enix would have their own interests much different than the original devs...
hopefully they don't ruin it like what they did with Just Cause series (especially the fourth one, third one was at least decent).
iirc the devs' plans for Sleeping Dogs 2 would have moved setting across the internal border to Shenzhen and Canton. So Hong Kong related drama likely wouldhave been skirted around even if the project wasn't killed. Huawei related drama on the other hand... :coldsweat:
Oh yeah I forgot about that plan. They were making it MMO considering it'd be a large-ass map, they'd need to have balls of steel to try portraying even Mainland China with a Western perception for the game. Stuff in 2019 would've made that drama much, much worse though, especially when it comes to the police :eek:
In short: get the US to be run mostly like the Pax Atomica TL?
Funnily enough the GTA US does have actual aliens so it being a ASB scenario is pretty fitting
Well, unlike Pax Atomica TL, the US here seems like they'd rather fight themselves than actually trying to unite to fight against its enemies. You don't get to see literal federal agencies fighting each other for blood, especially of their own citizens just to get more funding. I think OP really just wanted the legal, moral and cultural part of the US to be like of the series, which is equivalent to some of the Latin American (and other developing) states but still maintaining the world's most advanced economy and technologies at the same time... that's only mostly enjoyed by the richest and elites than the average citizen.
I remember the first time playing GTA V as a teeneger back in 2015, thinking how funny that alt crazy american society was. Just one year later, 2016 elections happened, and then started, the hell's gates were open....
I even wonder how would Rockstar even make and tackle GTA VI. Society itself has gotten a lot crazier since the mid 2010's,
and the standards of video gaming industry... has gone rather tamer as well.
 
Well, unlike Pax Atomica TL, the US here seems like they'd rather fight themselves than actually trying to unite to fight against its enemies. You don't get to see literal federal agencies fighting each other for blood, especially of their own citizens just to get more funding
Indeed
I meant the part about a shadow government that's pretty much a criminal organization in all but name
If you keep the one Nixon created in that timeline alongside the race conflicts and all that destabilizing shit that was going on internally without the whole "nuke monopoly gives the US a free pass to boss the whole planet into submission" it'd be pretty close to it
I think OP really just wanted the legal, moral and cultural part of the US to be like of the series, which is equivalent to some of the Latin American (and other developing) states but still maintaining the world's most advanced economy and technologies at the same time... that's only mostly enjoyed by the richest and elites than the average citizen.
Fully agree
 
iirc the devs' plans for Sleeping Dogs 2 would have moved setting across the internal border to Shenzhen and Canton. So Hong Kong related drama likely wouldhave been skirted around even if the project wasn't killed. Huawei related drama on the other hand... :coldsweat:
It’ll always irritate me that we never got this sequel, and instead got to experience that bizarre Triad Wars thing they tried to make. We need more games like Sleeping Dogs and Yakuza in our world.
 
So some divergences early on in it's history leads to a much weaker and more corrupt United States with the situation getting only worse when the country at some point goes through a full-on dictatorial radical libertarian/AnCap phase after a socialist got elected president and then promptly got couped, which guts the country worse than what Yeltsin did to Russia?

By the TTL 21st century the country's government is heavily corrupt and unstable, dealing with Mexico level issues with drug cartels and Italian level issues with organized crime, there's been a spike of paramilitary violence, and there's been a rise of cynicism in society in general with the decline of organized religion and things simply not getting better?
 
I think that the idea of some sort of collapse in the US, one that leaves it still relatively wealthy and technologically advanced but one that also leaves the government a factionalized mess and undermines the social order, is necessary.
 
So some divergences early on in it's history leads to a much weaker and more corrupt United States with the situation getting only worse when the country at some point goes through a full-on dictatorial radical libertarian/AnCap phase after a socialist got elected president and then promptly got couped, which guts the country worse than what Yeltsin did to Russia?

By the TTL 21st century the country's government is heavily corrupt and unstable, dealing with Mexico level issues with drug cartels and Italian level issues with organized crime, there's been a spike of paramilitary violence, and there's been a rise of cynicism in society in general with the decline of organized religion and things simply not getting better?
Oh and to add on to this slavery lasted much longer and race relations are absolutely horrible.
 
What the hell are you talking about?
Three of them were scheduled to go on to the Titanic

But for one reason or another they didn't


And this is asking how it would change America into GTA

Civil war between billionaire class would be an interesting idea trying to get all the money of the three barons
 
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