"I have only two regrets: I didn't shoot Henry Clay and I didn't hang John C. Calhoun"
Also, it sounds like Carolina could win this thing. Get um Andy!
Also, it sounds like Carolina could win this thing. Get um Andy!
"What Madness Is This?" Volume I: The Union Forever
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This may be the perfect march for Custer's fascist blueshirts when he inevitably takes power. "Custer our leader, he is gallant and strong, gallant is Custer for God and our Country we are marching along!"
I mean heck, if you just left the original lyrics and had it sung by a Panzer tank crew, it would sound unbelievably appropriate.
Snippet from a 1940s Union propaganda film about the foundation of Custer's Company.
CHAPTER 15
CHAPTER 15
COLLAPSE OF NEW SPAIN AND RISE THE MEXICAN EMPIRE
COLLAPSE OF NEW SPAIN AND RISE THE MEXICAN EMPIRE
As the Caribbean became a theater of war and Spain collapsed into the dustbin of history, Mexico was in the midst of a civil war. By the dawn of 1828, however, it stood united under a single man who held Napoleon up as his role-model.
In late 1827, the Mexicans finally overthrew the skeleton crew Spanish army holding the colony down. Ferdinand had been dead for several months, and news had reached New Spain long ago that the young King of Rome was preparing to seize the Spanish Throne. This was the opportune moment for a new independent government to rule in Mexico and join the North American circle of nations. The Mexican Napoleon crushed all of his enemies and prepared to take absolute power. Radicals were moving in from Gran Colombia, and they had already established the "Mexican Republic of Panama" with the expressed purpose of having it being the cornerstone for a new Mexican democratic nation. Georgian and French troops were moving in from New Orleans and establishing camps in Texas. The militarists in Georgia still held high the name of Archibald Bulloch, their first Prime Minister, and Mexico's fear was growing that they seemed to be pondering an all-out French-backed invasion to add more territory to their own little "empire." The Mexicans urged Texas to resist peacefully, and it left the Georgians in no position to "give aide" or "militarily assist" the "very independent" Mexico. In other words, Georgia couldn't pull the same trick Virginia had in Cuba. Instead, once the newly forming Mexico City government told the easterners to get out, they had no choice but to do so or look like total aggressors. This entire Mexican conflict was why Georgia stayed neutral during the Cuba conflict, as trying to fight the Carolinas while also dealing with an unstable expansionist Mexico was a recipe for disaster. Georgia had expanded industry and was far more self-sufficient than the colonial Old South, of course, but a two-front war was exactly what was dragging Virginia down at this same time period.
The leader of the Mexican revolutionaries was Agustín Cosme Damián de Iturbide y Arámburu, better known simply as Iturbide, and he possessed the mind of an absolute genius. He rallied the ad-hoc army he had assembled, acquired uniforms for the elites, and marched them north to the Louisiana border and held a formal ceremony at the departure of the French and Georgian "allies," to send a message they were not welcome to return.
Iturbide then proceeded to systematically purge his government of all who opposed him, which he cheerfully called "starting out on the right foot." The next move after that was to formally absorb Panama into the "Confederated Empire of Mexico." In mid-1828, he sent troops to fight with the Gran Colombians in South America, in an attempt to finally rid the two continents of Spanish rule forever. It would become a bloody affair, lasting till 1831. The Spanish in South America were being reinforced by the fleeing Spanish loyalists in Europe who desperately wanted to continue Bourbon rule in exile, and they made the going much tougher for the liberators. France at first helped in Peru against their common Spanish enemy, striking out from French-held Brazil, but soon after ceased doing so, becoming increasingly wary of Iturbide's intentions and were growing wary of some sort of domino-effect revolution breaking out in Brazil.
In late 1828, Iturbide finally made it known that he was now the Emperor, absolute in power, of all Mexico. He proclaimed that his empire stretched from Texas in the east, to Panama in the south, to southern California to the west. France was horrified, and immediately officially annexed more western territory onto Louisiana, hoping to eventually head off the Mexican Napoleon on the route to the Pacific.
Flag of the Confederated Empire of Mexico
Georgia finally intervened and sent troops into Texas once again, followed by a declaration of war on the Mexican Empire. France followed this lead, and declared Iturbide a problem that had to be solved. Santa Anna rallied his men once more under his Bloody Arm banner and Allied and Texan troops liberated Texas from Mexican rule on November 14, 1830. Santa Anna was installed as President of the Democratic Republic of Texas.
Flag of the Democratic Republic of Texas
President Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna of Texas in full dress uniform
Mexico was furious, and Iturbide demanded vengeance. His army attacked once more, torching towns along the Texas-Mexico border. Next, skirmishers and Native Americans who had signed up under his cause went north into Louisiana, pillaging and burning frontier towns and taking the scalps of French settlers. It was then that France noticed a disturbing fact: many of the settlers in the Louisiana colony were Union citizens, there illegally staking claims and homesteading. In fact, in the northern areas, Yankees outnumbered French 3-to-1. This was very, very upsetting to Napoleon and he wanted to remove them, but the war with Mexico simply needed more attention. But the insult to French sovereignty would not be forgotten. Interestingly enough, American settlers created militias and went to war as well with Mexico. Perhaps the Papist they knew was better than the Papist they didn't know (and that was talking scalps; that probably didn't help either). These American settlers, known by most as the "Yankee Cowboys" had built entire towns right under the French Empire's nose. In fact, the first AFC Church built outside of Union land went up in Praise, North Dakota. A town France didn't even know existed until troops from Canada were passing through and thought they had crossed into Michigania by accident.
Down in war-torn South America, Peru had declared independence in its capital of Lima. Though a general named Antonio Jose Estevez had tried to initially declare himself prince (as well as an ally of Iturbide), the people rejected and exiled him and drew up a republican system of government, based largely on Georgia. It welcomed Georgian legal advisers to come in and help write the new constitution. The young republic then looked inward and forward to a hopefully peaceful future. Chile declared itself independent in 1831, a year after Peru, and based itself on similar ideas and beliefs. However, once a series of Mexican-backed dictators rose and were overthrown in a series of brutal revolts, the smoldering ash-heap of a country lost its independence to Peru, who finally brought in rule of law and stable leadership. The last Mexican troops withdrew as the most recent government was imprisoned, thus ending Iturbide's "Wars of Liberation."
In Argentina, the French had taken over in 1828-1829, and all attempts at independence were quashed utterly, ending in the execution by guillotine of rebel leader José de San Martín. The French then made Argentina a colonial administration, and turned it into just another disparate part of the monstrously bloated French Empire.
The Georgian Army was stretched thin, as they kept a large amount of troops home in case hostilities broke out with the Carolinas. Napoleon was still dealing with revolts in India that were consuming all his best resources, as well as struggling to kill nascent Mexican-backed marauders in the frontiers of Louisiana. Also at this time, the Plains Indians declared a war upon European settlers, starting up the last big phase of the Conquering of the West. Occupying the massive backwater of Mexico permanently was about the last thing Napoleon wanted to do, and he just wanted Iturbide gone. For now, however, Iturbide remained, constantly harassing Louisiana and Texas and constantly eating up man-power. Peace would not come for years.
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OH! And as for any questions about the papacy, it will get its own chapter! It'll likely be similar to Classic, with a Bonaparte relative or sockpuppet on the throne, making the Union think even more that France is some sort of theocratic Catholic anti-Christ.
Ironic that it’s Santa Anna that was in the metaphorical Alamo as TTL’s Davy Crockett, and he wasn’t even brave enough to die there! Shame to him!
I like to imagine WMiT as an HBO series.
I can envision this song playing as the Yankee troops begrudgingly march north to go to war with Canada. They don't want this.
Amasa Goodyear sees the fields burning up North. He gazes stoically as hell is burning through. He can't stop the Dogs of War.
Montages of Yankee defeats. Amasa, who I imagine would be an early sympathetic character on the show, falls in battle.
Redcoats pour south as the river is rising and the devil is coming for his due. Slow-mo shot of the Prophet waist-high in the waters of baptism
Montage of Charles and his family enduring horrific circumstances. His mother dies. Leaving a poor boy from New Haven an orphan with his five siblings.
As the song fades, he stands upright, a fire in his eye. "One day..." he mutters. "One day this devil will get his due."
I can envision this song playing as the Yankee troops begrudgingly march north to go to war with Canada. They don't want this.
Amasa Goodyear sees the fields burning up North. He gazes stoically as hell is burning through. He can't stop the Dogs of War.
Montages of Yankee defeats. Amasa, who I imagine would be an early sympathetic character on the show, falls in battle.
Redcoats pour south as the river is rising and the devil is coming for his due. Slow-mo shot of the Prophet waist-high in the waters of baptism
Montage of Charles and his family enduring horrific circumstances. His mother dies. Leaving a poor boy from New Haven an orphan with his five siblings.
As the song fades, he stands upright, a fire in his eye. "One day..." he mutters. "One day this devil will get his due."
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I must say, I loved the original and I am loving all of the new material and the revamped old areas. When the original was published it seemed completely impossible and far fetched (albeit very entertaining); But, now I view it in a different light that makes it even more horrifying.
With the South at each other’s throats (and Mexico’s), the RUs unapposed encirclement of them makes more sense. Putting up a united opposition to the Northern nutters is far harder when you’ve still got seething bitterness against your neighbors far more recent historical slights
Especially if they don't realize they're being encircled...the update did say there were entire towns that no-one knew about until the Canadian army was headed to Mexico and just stumbled on....
Who knows how many more there are...?
One thing to remember is that in the early 19th Century, the area we call the Louisiana Purchase was totally unexplored territory. This is why Jefferson sent the Corps of Discovery under Lewis and Clark to explore the area IOTL. It would not be implausible at all for the RU or its states to send explorers and settlers into the territory; after all, possession is nine-tenths of the law and the RU would be very willing to liberate these lands from "papist scum" as it were.
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So you thought no one would recognize this song in disguise, did you?! Hah! You can fool the world, @Napoleon53, but you can’t fool me!
Exactly what I was going for!
I figured everyone knows that song.
The first music I ever remember OWNING as a kid was a cassette tape of Johnny Horton, and the first song was 1812. lol EDIT: I just got trolled with the Canada version. Any chance of William Dudley Pelley making an appearance? A nutjob like him is pretty much perfect for the AFC. His OTL version was pretty much a historical example of a pulp 'supervillain', considering the fact that he operated the Silver Legion from something that he called the 'World Headquarters'.
Some thoughts:
-Very pleased with the revisions to the Fourth Book of Manifest Destiny, though the last paragraph remains unchanged. When I originally suggested the Mormon influence, I specifically meant the racial aspect of the book of Mormon (IE the Lamanites being cursed with Red Skin). I imagine that the 4 Manifest Destiny will pick up where the Table of Nations left off, creating an absurd racial geanealogy that justifies the RU's racial views. A thought; in the original version, Evolution didn't enjoy widespread acceptance into the 20th century. Perhaps the RU, in support of their racialist theory and with their mad science bent, pioneers it and applies it to a Social Darwinism and eugenics, and for that reason is rejected in the wider world. Darwin as a bible-thumping migrant?
-Really like the new version of Goodyear. His backstory is reminiscent of Jackson. It adds a lot of color, whereas before he was sort of generically evil.
-I prefer the standard US blue to the shade of brown that is now being used for the RU. I imagine it's being used to distinguish between the RU and the inevitable NUSA, but I don't think there's much of a need: they're the same entity, for all intents and purposes.
-I do hope the Rheinbund makes an appearance.
-I think the English are getting too much of Australia. They should be reduced to the southern quarter IMO.
-I assume the Dutch take the Phillipines?
-Is Ontario its own state, or annexed to Chersonesus? The latter would be consistent with the large state model the Republicans are opting for.
-Can't wait to see what you do with Davy Crockett.
-What's Bolivar up to?
-I'd like to see a larger Texas then we did last time.
-Finally, and this is more frivolous then anything else but; Reverend-Prophet Lovecraft?
-Very pleased with the revisions to the Fourth Book of Manifest Destiny, though the last paragraph remains unchanged. When I originally suggested the Mormon influence, I specifically meant the racial aspect of the book of Mormon (IE the Lamanites being cursed with Red Skin). I imagine that the 4 Manifest Destiny will pick up where the Table of Nations left off, creating an absurd racial geanealogy that justifies the RU's racial views. A thought; in the original version, Evolution didn't enjoy widespread acceptance into the 20th century. Perhaps the RU, in support of their racialist theory and with their mad science bent, pioneers it and applies it to a Social Darwinism and eugenics, and for that reason is rejected in the wider world. Darwin as a bible-thumping migrant?
-Really like the new version of Goodyear. His backstory is reminiscent of Jackson. It adds a lot of color, whereas before he was sort of generically evil.
-I prefer the standard US blue to the shade of brown that is now being used for the RU. I imagine it's being used to distinguish between the RU and the inevitable NUSA, but I don't think there's much of a need: they're the same entity, for all intents and purposes.
-I do hope the Rheinbund makes an appearance.
-I think the English are getting too much of Australia. They should be reduced to the southern quarter IMO.
-I assume the Dutch take the Phillipines?
-Is Ontario its own state, or annexed to Chersonesus? The latter would be consistent with the large state model the Republicans are opting for.
-Can't wait to see what you do with Davy Crockett.
-What's Bolivar up to?
-I'd like to see a larger Texas then we did last time.
-Finally, and this is more frivolous then anything else but; Reverend-Prophet Lovecraft?
Oh wow, you’re right. I thought the Canadian version WAS the original!EDIT: I just got trolled with the Canada version.
Funny little fact: on the previous thread, I wrote something about TTL Lovecraft, whose name was Henry Philippe Lovette. Maybe, if Napoleon agrees, I could rewrite it.
I do recall that piece, though I must confess I was never a fan of it. A Californian Lovecraft? No sir, he is a Union bigot through-and-through.