Actually it did. It’s just not that well known sadly.
What is a common thing or trope that always seem to happen?
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Ehhhh the very concept of the Drakas is "South Africa but with America's Manifest Destiny" so I dont see how they could be ever "nice" outside of a roleswap like you're suggesting
Because most of their crimes are relatively unknown and you have a larger surviving community there while America is (in)famous for it's "Lets genocide everyone in our way to the Pacific!" so the conclusion is that Canada is "America but actually good"
Honestly I think Canadas reputations is mostly posturing from Canadians about how much better they are then so smelly Americans(Can't say us Kiwis don't do the exact same thing, the difference is that we are actually correct /s), Teaboos and Americans themselves.
I want to be the Drakan to be“nice” one compared to their brother in the America who do the Drakan atrocities which would ironically funny in a dark way
Oh fuck and the British need their Colonial settlement resulting more destruction of the Māori land.British Empire with only Canada and New Zealand when?
You somehow make New Zealand into a dystopia
I would also add the characters or governments that, despite living in other times, will justify their decisions based on 21st century macroeconomic arguments that they would not have to know about.
Even stranger, instead of calling them out for this nonsense, the other members of the government and the opposition accept these arguments because "I am not going to fight against economic logic."
Even if it most likely sounds like the ruler is spewing incomprehensible jargon, talking about obscure arcana that no one cared about, and drawing conclusions that, according to the knowledge of the time, are totally illogical.
Even stranger, instead of calling them out for this nonsense, the other members of the government and the opposition accept these arguments because "I am not going to fight against economic logic."
Even if it most likely sounds like the ruler is spewing incomprehensible jargon, talking about obscure arcana that no one cared about, and drawing conclusions that, according to the knowledge of the time, are totally illogical.
I didnt say moving the british government to the kiwiland though, and I mean they were a british colony IOTL...
Yeah British colonies meaning British move there and we all know how the Brits act in a colonie that they want
What do you consider 21st century macroeconomic arguments? And what time periods are you referring too?
Fair enough, I just figured "send them to South Africa" was played out.
Back when "Canada" meant "French" it absolutely would, and they had a much better history with the indigenous than the anglophone nations did.
See above about what "Canada" meant before it got split into Lower and Upper Canada with the Loyalist influx.
Modern Canada is trash, I'm talking about a surviving New France within the US that's on equal terms with the rest from the jump.
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This is TNO. If you came to it for a coherent and realistic story, you were gravely misinformed.
Frankly, the more they ham it up, the better. If they're going to exist at all, might as well lean into the meme.
Not a bad idea, tbh. Right up there with killing people that wear glasses for being intellectuals.
Extremely off topic, but I actually do have an idea for a Post Apocalpytic Kiwi Dystopia. No it isn't a mutant hell scape ruled by sentient birds(Thats Australia) Basically after the disaster which completely obliterated the rest of human civilisation New Zealand rode out the storm more or less unscathed, due to its isolation and self sufficiency in terms of food resources leading it to being actually vaguely similar to post collapse New Zealand. Well it's a lot more rural and sheep farmings taken off again, but still the country is more or less well put together, the people aren't starving and they've managed to retain most of the old worlds technology.
Except for one teensy weensy little difference. Namely that everybody there is convinced that the outside world of New Zealand doesn't exist. We They do acknowledge that landmasses like Australia exist but are convinced that the rest of the world is bare of humans after the cataclysm aside from groups of savage mutants that occasionally attack the New Zealand Energy companies oil and uranium mines. But any suggestion that these savages are actually human is swiftly repressed by the glorious leader.
Oh did you think this New Zealand was a democracy? Basically what happened is that a Kiwi flavoured version of Mr House took power in New Zealand and managed to keep the country unaffected from what was going on in the rest of the world(IDK the Aussies wanted a rematch and the Emus stopped playing around). The mutant savages are actually just disorganised bands of human survivors who often run at the mere sight of a NZE logo. The reason for all this is basically because he concluded that as long as New Zealand was stable and prosperous the rest of the world could get fucked and sharing the countries resources with the rest of the world would only harm the living standards of New Zealanders(Akay the only people who actually matter in his eyes) and so brutally slaughtering them in order to make sure the NZ economy get its share of oil is completely and utterly moral.
He keeps order through not only bread and circuses(And by circuses I mean rugby, Lots of rugby), a systematic erasure of New Zealand's history(As far as everyone in NZ is concerned this is just kind of how things have always been) and mock elections for Prime Minister which are just glorified reality tv shows for the entertainment of the masses. Along with the personality cult thats emerged around the leader who puts on a persona of being the typical kiwi bloke(Like a lot of New Zealand politicians TBH).....which is kind of getting hard to do in recent years considering hes now stuck in a cyborg body but thankfully everybody's to indoctrinated to really care. New Zealand society is also completely and utterly Puritan and basically everyone who goes against the grain or shows interest in usual subjects like English Literature or Poetry is shunned and as to anyone who shows any interest in what New Zealand was like before the cataclysm....well lets say they are never heard from again.
I love how this is unironically probably my longest not thread marked post on this site now.
my man created entire timeline base on my post
I respect that
Cool but unrelated note I kinda did my longest post of all time on this site, and it was about Mormons
Anderean Mormon guy strike again
That’s not going to mean much when the US government is going to encourage settlement into the other parts of Canada.
I've actually had the idea in my head for a while. You just gave me an opportunity to actually post something on it.
Based Viking man, I hope I give you enough setting for posting about to start a project about dystopia kiwiz
Their are very few post acoplyatic stories not focused on America and even fewer on New Zealand, so why not bash them together and see what happens?
I think that the US is honestly kind of like a beacon of human civilization, and that is a superpower across the world that seeing it crumble, and turn into a literal hell scape would be a ponder.
Oh, also if you said it to Russia, where apocalyptic stories is actually the norm because of what history happened there