Sorry to disagree with such a clearly highly respected person here, but Lt Green was Trinidadian called Seymour who liked Calypso music.....
What If the BBC had made Star Trek in the 1960's?
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Sorry to disagree with such a clearly highly respected person here, but Lt Green was Trinidadian called Seymour who liked Calypso music.....
I think you must have been watching a different show. He's quite deffinately black and from the West Indies.
MrP
Banned
If it makes you feel better, I don't even remember him. Though my knowledge of the setup is restricted to old comics that were in the loft when I was little. I recall White, Black, Scarlet, and were there Angels 1, 2 & 3 flying some sort of space interceptors?
Or possibly watching in a different timeline. That would be a very subtle POD.
Discourages one young Black English boy from enlisting in the British Armed Forces years later, and inspires a British Asian boy instead? By 2002 he's ex-services and now the British Defence Minister?
by the way BBC had already tow version of Star Trek
HYPERDRIVE
and that are the top crew left to right.
Diplomatic Officer Chloe Teal (very navie) , the Commander Michael Henderson (very stupid)
and First Officer York (A cold hearted, brutal psychopath.)
they command the HMS Camden Lock as they stumble through their heroic mission to protect British interests in a changing galaxy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/hyperdrive/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperdrive_(TV_series)
and in 1978
they had very nasty and morbit version of star trek
Blake's 7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blake_seven
HYPERDRIVE
and that are the top crew left to right.
Diplomatic Officer Chloe Teal (very navie) , the Commander Michael Henderson (very stupid)
and First Officer York (A cold hearted, brutal psychopath.)
they command the HMS Camden Lock as they stumble through their heroic mission to protect British interests in a changing galaxy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/hyperdrive/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperdrive_(TV_series)
and in 1978
they had very nasty and morbit version of star trek
Blake's 7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blake_seven
Trekkies
Hard to see it.
Star Trek, like most mainstream US Sci Fi, was really putting the Wild West into outer space, the sense of pioneering, of strange enemies, defeated usually by superior technology and greater moral standing.
British Sci Fi is usually less technocratic, often very pessimistic, at least after the mid/late 50's when the UK's reduced position as a great power was much more appparent.
Hard to see it.
Star Trek, like most mainstream US Sci Fi, was really putting the Wild West into outer space, the sense of pioneering, of strange enemies, defeated usually by superior technology and greater moral standing.
British Sci Fi is usually less technocratic, often very pessimistic, at least after the mid/late 50's when the UK's reduced position as a great power was much more appparent.
say that to Gerry Anderson see Thunderbird, over Technocratic and fun
British TV Sci Fi became very hillarius in 1980´s and 2000´s like
"Red dwarf" and "Hyperdrive" or Radio play "Neboulus"
to Blake's 7
is Critic point of view
some see it as BBC answer to Star Wars
others as Robin Hood on Sci-Fi
and makers make sure there is no sequel to it
by killing the characters in last episode
wat about this:
after NBC "NO" on ST Pilot one
Gene Rodenberry goes and show the Pilot to CBC
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
they run BBC Dr Who (is a success since 1963.) know is Possibility and buy the serie Star Trek.
for the money CBC make Cooperation with BBC and ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
alot of CBC, BBC and ABC TV show and Serie are made like this.
with canadian, britsh, australian actors
so we have big chance for William Shatner as Kirk, James Doohan as Scott in this canadian version
but Spook with australia Accent ?
how ever Star Trek episodes written by Terry Nation (he made the Dalek and Blake's 7) would be cool
Gerry
I always saw Gerry Anderson's stuff, despite where he came from, where it was made, as a more transatlantic thing.
In Thunderbirds the main (puppet) characters were American, (did his stuff do well in the States? If not, it wasn't for want of trying).
Uber low budget Blakes 7, as stated, a reaction to Star Wars.
I was thinking more of stuff like 'Survivors', film and TV versions of John Wyndham novels, 'Doomwatch', all the Nigel Kneale stuff-from Quatermass to one offs like the horribly predictive of trash like 'Big Brother', the 1968 TV play 'Year Of The Sex Olympics'.
I always saw Gerry Anderson's stuff, despite where he came from, where it was made, as a more transatlantic thing.
In Thunderbirds the main (puppet) characters were American, (did his stuff do well in the States? If not, it wasn't for want of trying).
Uber low budget Blakes 7, as stated, a reaction to Star Wars.
I was thinking more of stuff like 'Survivors', film and TV versions of John Wyndham novels, 'Doomwatch', all the Nigel Kneale stuff-from Quatermass to one offs like the horribly predictive of trash like 'Big Brother', the 1968 TV play 'Year Of The Sex Olympics'.
Thunderbirds were a world wide success
Survivors is from Terry Nation (also wrote best episode of The Avengers, The Saint, Deparment S, Dr Who etc)
Doomwatch is from Gerry Davis and Kit Pedler, (they Invent the Cybermen in Dr Who)
the two wrote the skript to a Novel 'Mutant 59: The Plastic Eater'
John Wyndham Wrote ‘The Day of the Triffids‘
A series simply commissioned by anti-SiFi elements in the BBC in an attempt to make SiFi so bad on the BBC that the Dr Who revival would fail.
IIRC Terry Nation came up with the idea of B7 before Star Wars was released in the UK
Actually race was an issue in 1960's Britain (and beyond) with non white immigrants arriving in large numbers and a backlash against them. There's also Imperial withdrawl, brushfire wars, youth counterculture and the cold war etc.
+ class as Leej mentioned.
The sets would have been very small (at least compared to those used in OTL Star Trek), it would have been shot in black and white on VT with exteriors and model shots filmed on 16mm B/W stock and there would only be about 13 episodes made per season.
Yeah class had no bearing on British culture in the 1960s
. Watch Fawlty Towers, that was made in 1975/79 and its still very plain to see.Though I doubt having working class characters would be ground breaking, they just probably wouldn't get any command positions
.Chekov is replaced by Kurtz, and the Klingons (or their ATL parrallels) are going to get a lot more Nazi-ish.
Maybe no Federation, just a lonley planet Earth fighting the evil alien empire? Ok kind of missing the point of Star Trek but does give me an idea for a space opera
Yeah class had no bearing on British culture in the 1960s
Yes, because Fawlty Towers was a fly on the wall documentary on the British hospitality industry.
Yeah class had no bearing on British culture in the 1960s
Though I doubt having working class characters would be ground breaking, they just probably wouldn't get any command positions
Well even today someone in a command position wouldn't speak with a overt working class accent. That they speak Queen's English though (whether its a choice so to be understood, a product of living well or education, etc... is unknown) says nothing on their upbringing.