Top 5 Best Presidents
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1.Theodore Roosevelt- Challenged the power of the trusts and leaned on employers to negotiate with labour. Didn't have to face the tests his nephew did but would undoubtedly have risen to the challenge
2. Harry S Truman carried on the new deal supported the rights of labour and reigned in General Mcarthur defended democracy in the cold war without starting World War 3
3. Franlin D Roosevelt- Saved the American way with the New Deal and realised the threat of Nazi Germany long before most Americans and helped keep the UK afloat before America joined in the War. Supported the right of labour to organise
4. Abraham Lincoln saved the American union and emancipated the slave albeit rather belatedly and not for entirely altruistic reasons
5. Rather more difficult a few possible candidates Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson (both however got involved in Vietnam, Carter? probably achieved more after leaving office than in office, Clinton any good has to be belanced against bringing the office into disrepute, Nixon many achievements but also brought the office into disrepute and failed to complete his healthcare policy so that leaves Jefferson who was a bit too early to formulate an opinion on. Barrack Obama is too early to judge
2. Harry S Truman carried on the new deal supported the rights of labour and reigned in General Mcarthur defended democracy in the cold war without starting World War 3
3. Franlin D Roosevelt- Saved the American way with the New Deal and realised the threat of Nazi Germany long before most Americans and helped keep the UK afloat before America joined in the War. Supported the right of labour to organise
4. Abraham Lincoln saved the American union and emancipated the slave albeit rather belatedly and not for entirely altruistic reasons
5. Rather more difficult a few possible candidates Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson (both however got involved in Vietnam, Carter? probably achieved more after leaving office than in office, Clinton any good has to be belanced against bringing the office into disrepute, Nixon many achievements but also brought the office into disrepute and failed to complete his healthcare policy so that leaves Jefferson who was a bit too early to formulate an opinion on. Barrack Obama is too early to judge
Paul V McNutt
Banned
In chroniclogical order:
1 Paul V McNutt 1933 - 1949
2 Edmund Muskie 1973 - 1977
3 Morris Udall 1977 - 1981
4 Walter Mondale 1985 - 1993
5 Al Gore 2001- 2009
McNutt was a heavy smoker who died of cancer at the age of 64 in 1955. s So maybe with the stress of office he would not have lived through his fourth term.
1 Paul V McNutt 1933 - 1949
2 Edmund Muskie 1973 - 1977
3 Morris Udall 1977 - 1981
4 Walter Mondale 1985 - 1993
5 Al Gore 2001- 2009
McNutt was a heavy smoker who died of cancer at the age of 64 in 1955. s So maybe with the stress of office he would not have lived through his fourth term.
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sonofaww2navyvet
Banned
1-George Washington cause he proved democracy could exsist.
2-abrahamn lincoln-made sure the civil war victory by the northern army ended without the north taking vengenance on the rebels after the war which helped america heal.
3-FDR-would not have won ww2 or survived the depression without him as our president.
4-Eisenhower won ww2 for the allies and came home to help the us evolve greatly after ww2.
5-jfk/lbj-kennedy started the equal rights for all americans regardless of race,and lbj finished it for him.
reagan is up there too.he put the us military back as a force to be reckoned with after vietnam and carter's iran hostage mess.
2-abrahamn lincoln-made sure the civil war victory by the northern army ended without the north taking vengenance on the rebels after the war which helped america heal.
3-FDR-would not have won ww2 or survived the depression without him as our president.
4-Eisenhower won ww2 for the allies and came home to help the us evolve greatly after ww2.
5-jfk/lbj-kennedy started the equal rights for all americans regardless of race,and lbj finished it for him.
reagan is up there too.he put the us military back as a force to be reckoned with after vietnam and carter's iran hostage mess.
Paul V McNutt
Banned
In chronological order
Hubert Humphrey 1961 - 1969
Hubert Humphrey 1973 - 1977
Sargent Shriver 1977 - 1981
Birch Bayh 1977 - 1981
Frank Church 1977 - 1981
Hubert Humphrey 1961 - 1969
Hubert Humphrey 1973 - 1977
Sargent Shriver 1977 - 1981
Birch Bayh 1977 - 1981
Frank Church 1977 - 1981
Abraham Lincoln (1860-1864). Held the nation together; 'nuff said.
Bob LaFollette (1904-1916). He passed a majority of the Progressive reforms, and kept us out of the First Great War (even if he did get us involved in that ugliness in Mexico)
Phil LaFollette (1937-1948) his American Idea paved the way for modern America, he seemlessly took over the assassinstion of President Theodore Roosevelt Jr., and ...well, I'm a fan of the LaFollettes.
Joseph Kennedy Jr., (1960-1968). I may not be a Democrat, but he smoothed relations with Germany which had frayed after the Second Great War, and pushed through greater Civil Rights. Maybe the most liberals Democrat ever elected. Great guy, although I'm not a huge fan of his brother John.
George Romney (1972-1986). Won the war against Fascist China. A great man, and he makes me pround to be a Republican .
Bob LaFollette (1904-1916). He passed a majority of the Progressive reforms, and kept us out of the First Great War (even if he did get us involved in that ugliness in Mexico)
Phil LaFollette (1937-1948) his American Idea paved the way for modern America, he seemlessly took over the assassinstion of President Theodore Roosevelt Jr., and ...well, I'm a fan of the LaFollettes.
Joseph Kennedy Jr., (1960-1968). I may not be a Democrat, but he smoothed relations with Germany which had frayed after the Second Great War, and pushed through greater Civil Rights. Maybe the most liberals Democrat ever elected. Great guy, although I'm not a huge fan of his brother John.
George Romney (1972-1986). Won the war against Fascist China. A great man, and he makes me pround to be a Republican .
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt- helped end the Great Depression, led us in WW2.
2. Dwight Eisenhower- shaped much of America's policy during the Cold War, was Supreme Commander during WW2
3. Theodore Roosevelt- need I say more?
4. Lyndon Johnson- mainly for his attempt at "the Great Society" and his implementation of civil rights
5. Harry Truman- anybody who can beat those odds and win a term of his own despite being so unpopular in his day deserves some respect.
2. Dwight Eisenhower- shaped much of America's policy during the Cold War, was Supreme Commander during WW2
3. Theodore Roosevelt- need I say more?
4. Lyndon Johnson- mainly for his attempt at "the Great Society" and his implementation of civil rights
5. Harry Truman- anybody who can beat those odds and win a term of his own despite being so unpopular in his day deserves some respect.
OTL
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) - New Deal, WWII leadership
2.Abraham Lincoln (Republican/National Union) - Kept the Union together
3. George Washington (none/Federalist) - Set some pretty important precedents, also the neutrality policy was important.
4. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) - He is Theodore Roosevelt
5. Harry Truman (Democratic) - Continuing the New Deal + Marshall Plan + Supporting some civil rights
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) - New Deal, WWII leadership
2.Abraham Lincoln (Republican/National Union) - Kept the Union together
3. George Washington (none/Federalist) - Set some pretty important precedents, also the neutrality policy was important.
4. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) - He is Theodore Roosevelt
5. Harry Truman (Democratic) - Continuing the New Deal + Marshall Plan + Supporting some civil rights
Best:
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
2. Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
3. George Washington (Independent)
4. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
5. Jerry Brown (Democratic)
Worst:
1. James Buchanan (Democratic)
2. Walt Disney (Republican)
3. Franklin Pierce (Democratic)
4. Warren G. Harding (Republican)
5. Andrew Johnson (Democratic)
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
2. Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
3. George Washington (Independent)
4. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
5. Jerry Brown (Democratic)
Worst:
1. James Buchanan (Democratic)
2. Walt Disney (Republican)
3. Franklin Pierce (Democratic)
4. Warren G. Harding (Republican)
5. Andrew Johnson (Democratic)
My Top FIve American Presidents
5) Abraham Lincoln, prevented the fracture of the United States and made Freedom for all MORE than just lip service.
4) Theodore Roosevedt, made the U.S> a world power and let the world know we were here to stay.
3)Franklin Delano Rooseveldt ameliorated the depression and then pumped us up to kick fascist ass.
2) Harry Truman, Crafted the doctrine to contain communism and had the stones to apply the cold solution to Japan to end that war. Give em hell harry get's number two.
And the Number one President of the United States of America is the Number one President of the United States of America, GEORGE MOTHERFUCKING WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!
5) Abraham Lincoln, prevented the fracture of the United States and made Freedom for all MORE than just lip service.
4) Theodore Roosevedt, made the U.S> a world power and let the world know we were here to stay.
3)Franklin Delano Rooseveldt ameliorated the depression and then pumped us up to kick fascist ass.
2) Harry Truman, Crafted the doctrine to contain communism and had the stones to apply the cold solution to Japan to end that war. Give em hell harry get's number two.
And the Number one President of the United States of America is the Number one President of the United States of America, GEORGE MOTHERFUCKING WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!
And now, an ATL list. Because why not? 
#1. Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933-1945 (Democratic)
#2. Abraham Lincoln, 1861-1865 (Republican)
#3. George Washington, 1789-1797
#4. Harry Truman, 1945-1957 (Democratic)
#5. Ronald Reagan, 1981-1983 (Democratic)
#6. Lyndon Johnson, 1961-1963 (Democratic)
#7. Hubert Humphrey, 1963-1973 (Democratic)
#8. Nelson Rockefeller, 1973-1981 (Republican)
#9. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, 1983-1993 (Democratic)
#10. Earl Warren, 1957-1961 (Republican)
#1. Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933-1945 (Democratic)
#2. Abraham Lincoln, 1861-1865 (Republican)
#3. George Washington, 1789-1797
#4. Harry Truman, 1945-1957 (Democratic)
#5. Ronald Reagan, 1981-1983 (Democratic)
#6. Lyndon Johnson, 1961-1963 (Democratic)
#7. Hubert Humphrey, 1963-1973 (Democratic)
#8. Nelson Rockefeller, 1973-1981 (Republican)
#9. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, 1983-1993 (Democratic)
#10. Earl Warren, 1957-1961 (Republican)
Top 5 Presidents -- If the country went in a different direction
Professor Chipperback, as you look back at the history of this country...who would be your top 5 presidents?
5. Henry Wallace 1949-1957 (American Socialist) -- A lot of people tabbed Wallace as a peacenik, but his strong leadership shepherded this nation through the Inchon Stanoff in '51. The Suez Crisis in '55..and most importantly Little Rock School crisis in '56. The United States of America is still quite influenced today by President Wallace.
4. Benjamin Franklin 1789-1805 (Independent) -- The nation's first chief executive. Yeah, he was crazy, tawdry, an 18th century swinger. He was also a the right person at the right time. He built a peace with Britain abroad, and peace with the indigenous nations at home.
3. Benjamin O. Davis 1965-1973 (Republican) -- The first African-descended chief executive. Again, right person at the right time. He is the major reason why the USA has strong trade links in Africa and Latin America. The Davis Doctrine aggressively kept Soviet Communism at bay in the third world, along with aggressive pro-business development. The United States needed a beacon of light after the confusion of the Stevenson and Nixon years.
2. Jack Kemp 2001- 2009 (Republican) -- Smart progressive conservative leadership for America. Effectively handled some difficult situations and fostered a era of bipartisan cooperation that has been a boon to America. From the 2002 Perth Amboy Meltdown to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, to passing the New Apollo Project and pushing through the 29th Amendment to the Constitution (Human Rights Amendment).
The next President of the United States, whether its Vice President Dole or Senator Navrotilova, I hope they continue to positive policies of President Kemp. Either way, the next President will have something big in common with my #1 choice
1. Victoria Woodhull (Independent) 1873-1881 -- Kept the country together through the Civil War against the pro-slavery Confederacy, fully settled the treaties question with our Native Americans and truly brought the first Americans into the common fold, along with Vice President Chief Joseph. Also built the nation's first antitrust laws to keep the burgeoning industrial capitalists honest. The Woodhull years began the protections that define the relationship between business labor and government today...Those protections are as common as universal suffrage. Not even Libertarian Presidents like Theodora Nathan dared to attempt to overturn them.
Professor Chipperback, as you look back at the history of this country...who would be your top 5 presidents?
5. Henry Wallace 1949-1957 (American Socialist) -- A lot of people tabbed Wallace as a peacenik, but his strong leadership shepherded this nation through the Inchon Stanoff in '51. The Suez Crisis in '55..and most importantly Little Rock School crisis in '56. The United States of America is still quite influenced today by President Wallace.
4. Benjamin Franklin 1789-1805 (Independent) -- The nation's first chief executive. Yeah, he was crazy, tawdry, an 18th century swinger. He was also a the right person at the right time. He built a peace with Britain abroad, and peace with the indigenous nations at home.
3. Benjamin O. Davis 1965-1973 (Republican) -- The first African-descended chief executive. Again, right person at the right time. He is the major reason why the USA has strong trade links in Africa and Latin America. The Davis Doctrine aggressively kept Soviet Communism at bay in the third world, along with aggressive pro-business development. The United States needed a beacon of light after the confusion of the Stevenson and Nixon years.
2. Jack Kemp 2001- 2009 (Republican) -- Smart progressive conservative leadership for America. Effectively handled some difficult situations and fostered a era of bipartisan cooperation that has been a boon to America. From the 2002 Perth Amboy Meltdown to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, to passing the New Apollo Project and pushing through the 29th Amendment to the Constitution (Human Rights Amendment).
The next President of the United States, whether its Vice President Dole or Senator Navrotilova, I hope they continue to positive policies of President Kemp. Either way, the next President will have something big in common with my #1 choice
1. Victoria Woodhull (Independent) 1873-1881 -- Kept the country together through the Civil War against the pro-slavery Confederacy, fully settled the treaties question with our Native Americans and truly brought the first Americans into the common fold, along with Vice President Chief Joseph. Also built the nation's first antitrust laws to keep the burgeoning industrial capitalists honest. The Woodhull years began the protections that define the relationship between business labor and government today...Those protections are as common as universal suffrage. Not even Libertarian Presidents like Theodora Nathan dared to attempt to overturn them.
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Tannhäuser
Banned
I think you really have to define "best" first. Does it mean that the best stuff happened under their watch? That they did the best stuff? I would argue that it should be defined as "the degree to which they did better than than the average person would have". George Washington was a decent general - it's quite possible that, without his leadership, the Continental Army would have disintegrated. But anyone could have done what he did in office - more or less nothing. Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, Polk (assuming that you define "best" as "best for the US" and not "best, objectively, for humanity"), and arguably LBJ, however, changed the nation for the better in ways that other men probably would not have.
From OTL
1. Abe Lincoln:
2. FDR
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. George Washington
5. John Adams
Honorable Mentions: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, and Harry Truman
1. Abe Lincoln:
2. FDR
3. Teddy Roosevelt
4. George Washington
5. John Adams
Honorable Mentions: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, and Harry Truman
Decided to do something different and rank my favorite presidents by party. Naturally my favorite "non-partisan" President is Washington and my favorite Federalist is John Adams.
Democratic-Republicans:
1. James Monroe
2. James Madison
3. John Quincy Adams
4. Thomas Jefferson
Democrats:
1. FDR
2. Harry Truman
3. James Polk
4. Bill Clinton
5. Andrew Jackson
Whigs:
1. Zachary Taylor
2. John Tyler
3. William Henry Harrison (would have been 2nd if he had lived even a little bit longer)
4. Milliard Fillmore
Republicans:
1. Dwight Eisenhower
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Richard Nixon
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. James Garfield
Democratic-Republicans:
1. James Monroe
2. James Madison
3. John Quincy Adams
4. Thomas Jefferson
Democrats:
1. FDR
2. Harry Truman
3. James Polk
4. Bill Clinton
5. Andrew Jackson
Whigs:
1. Zachary Taylor
2. John Tyler
3. William Henry Harrison (would have been 2nd if he had lived even a little bit longer)
4. Milliard Fillmore
Republicans:
1. Dwight Eisenhower
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Richard Nixon
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. James Garfield
That's quite a postwar wank.And now, an ATL list. Because why not?
My turn!
#1. Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1921-1929, 1933-1945 (Democratic)
#2. Abraham Lincoln, 1861-1865 (Republican)
#3. George Washington, 1789-1797
#4. Harry S Truman, 1945-1957 (Democratic)
#5. Lyndon B. Johnson, 1961-1973 (Democratic)
Yeah, I only changed some numbers.
Ok. Now I'm ranking the best here, not my favorites...
Democratic-Republicans
1. James Monroe
2. John Quincy Adams
3. Thomas Jefferson
4. James Madison
Democratic
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Harry S Truman
3. Lyndon B. Johnson
4. James K. Polk
5. Barack Obama
Whigs
1. William Henry Harrison
2. Zachary Taylor
3. Millard Fillmore
4. John Tyler
John Adams was better than all of them.
Republicans
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Theodore Roosevelt
3. Dwight D. Eisenhower
4. William Howard Taft
5. Chester A. Arthur
Now I am depressed.
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Best:
1. Abraham Lincoln (R) 1861-81
2. Robert T. Lincoln (R) 1897-1906
3. Theodore Roosevelt (R) 1906-21
4. Quentin Roosevelt (R) 1953-61
5. George H. W. Bush (D) 1981-93
Worst:
1. James Buchanan (D) 1857-61
2. Woodrow Wilson (D) 1921-23
3. Franklin Pierce (D) 1853-57
4. Rick Santorum (D) 2005-09
5. Michael Moore (R) 2009-13
1. Abraham Lincoln (R) 1861-81
2. Robert T. Lincoln (R) 1897-1906
3. Theodore Roosevelt (R) 1906-21
4. Quentin Roosevelt (R) 1953-61
5. George H. W. Bush (D) 1981-93
Worst:
1. James Buchanan (D) 1857-61
2. Woodrow Wilson (D) 1921-23
3. Franklin Pierce (D) 1853-57
4. Rick Santorum (D) 2005-09
5. Michael Moore (R) 2009-13
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OTL
Best:
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Bill Clinton
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. George Washington
5. Abraham Lincoln
6. Barrack Obama
Worst:
1. George W. Bush
2. Grover Cleveland
3. Franklin Pierce
4. George H. W. Bush
5. Lyndon B Johnson
6. Ronald Reagan
Ironically i was reading into my Genealogy from a book that was passed down from my Dads side of the family and found out i am directly related to Franklin Pierce.
But since 1. He wasn't considered that great of a president and called a drunk, 2. Several marriage related problems, the most recent being my Grandpa Don (FP related) never marrying my Grandmother, i did not inherit anything.
Not even money
Best:
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Bill Clinton
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. George Washington
5. Abraham Lincoln
6. Barrack Obama
Worst:
1. George W. Bush
2. Grover Cleveland
3. Franklin Pierce
4. George H. W. Bush
5. Lyndon B Johnson
6. Ronald Reagan
Ironically i was reading into my Genealogy from a book that was passed down from my Dads side of the family and found out i am directly related to Franklin Pierce.
But since 1. He wasn't considered that great of a president and called a drunk, 2. Several marriage related problems, the most recent being my Grandpa Don (FP related) never marrying my Grandmother, i did not inherit anything.
Not even money
scholar
Banned
- George Washington
- Thomas Jefferson
- James K. Polk (Anyone live in the Western Half of our country?)
- Franklin Delano Roosevelt
- Theodore Roosevelt
- George Washington
- Thomas Jefferson
- James K. Polk
- Richard Nixon (People seem to forget that if it weren't for watergate the man would have been one of the most popular and well respected of Residents).
- John F. Kennedy Jr. (Ended Cold War, Established firm dialog with Communist International, and presided over the beginning of disarmament)