The Navatlacas: Heirs to Hernan and Montezuma

Great update Ringon looking forward to the next one.

Thank you. How plausible do you it is for one of the two developments for the Navatlaca empire?

A) A large personal army commanded by the Tlatoanitzin himself; a New World analogue to the Janissaries and the Mamelukes of the Ottomans and the other Islamic civilizations? An army manned by native Mesoamericans who have been extracted from their families, kind of like a blood tax. Instead of paying in money, one pays in their children who are brought to special academies in Tenochtitlan to be raised as warriors, Christian warriors who are loyal to only the Tlatoanitzin, well at least in the beginning.

B) Something along the likes of an organization that is a mixture of a predecessor to a modern day intelligence agency and secret police whose agents are deployed to crack down on potential dissendents?
 
I want the Hindus to win.

And definitely A- Praetorian-esque or Janissary groups can easily overthrow rulers. This can segue into the Empire being overrun in the post-Cortez dynasty years.
 

Zioneer

Banned
I like A. Seems a bit more fleshed out and potentially interesting; could lead to fun consequences in the future; I'm guessing that unrest in this new army could lead to the Comache invasion.
 
The Navatlacas: Heirs to Hernan and Montezuma

The Initial Skirmishes Prior to Yamuna Part II

Sultan Lodi rallies the troops

Sultan Ibrahim Lodi was now in some measure cooped up in his camp while the enemy was in possession of the open country. The uneasiness which he in consequence experienced in this state of inaction appears very naturally to have excited feelings of religious compunction in his mind. When he reviewed his past life he keenly felt that somehow that this opposition to his rule was retribution by Allah for not being a faithful adherent to the Islamic faith. He often drank wine and other alcholic beverages in the court during his reign and like other habitual offenders he had all along firmly resolved to give up the evil custom at some future time but that time had been constantly deferred.

This was a visible sign commonly adopted by such as were under the influence of a vow. Many nobles and others to the number of three hundred followed the example of their sovereign. Salt was thrown into the ample store of wine just arrived from Agra all the rest found in the camp was poured upon the ground and a well was ordered to be dug and an almshousebuilt on the spot to commemorate this great religious event of repentance. As a boon to his Muslim followers and subjects he gave up the Temgha or stamp tax in all his dominions so far as concerned Muslims and published a firman to that effect. The dejection and alarm of the Sultan's troops had at this time reached their extreme point. The contagion had infected even his highest officers. The Sultan determined to make a bold exertion to infuse a portion of his own heroic ardor into the drooping spirits of his followers and for that purpose he addressed himself to the religious feelings so powerful with all Muslims but especially with such as are engaged in a holy war, a jihad against infidels. He thus made the most famous and most important speech of his life:

Friends, people of the court, lend me your ears! Every man that comes into this world is subject to dissolution! When we are passed away and gone from this world, Allah remains One and Unchangeable. Whoever sits down to the feast of life must, before it is over, drink from the cup of death. He who arrives at the inn of mortality, the world must one day without fail take his departure from that mansion of sorrow. How much better then is it to die with honor than to live with infamy.

Sultan Ibrahim Lodi continued:

Allah Almighty has been propitious to us. He has now placed us in such a crisis that if we fall in the field we die the death of martyrs, if we survive we rise victorious the avengers of his sacred cause. Let us therefore with one accord swear on Allah's Holy Word that none of us will for a moment think of turning his face from this warfare or shrink from the battle and slaughter that ensue till his soul is separated from his body.

Sultan Ibrahim Lodi's attempt at reinvigorating his men remains to this day one of the most excellent displays of military leadership, even today despite the fact that in the end that he would not be the victor.

Sultan Ibrahim Lodi's advance

With his troops now in high spirits, Sultan Ibrahim Lodi decided to advance from the entrenchments in which the army had so long been cooped up. It was on the April of 1528 that Ibrahim Lodi drew forward his guns and a kind of defensive cover that moved on wheels and which served as a breastwork supporting them by his musket-wielding men and all his army. He himself galloped along the line animating his troops and officers and giving them instructions how to conduct themselves in every emergency that could occur. The army having advanced a mile or two halted to encamp. As soon as the Rajputs heard that they were in motion several bodies of them galloped close up to the guns. The Sultan not intending to engage in a general action that day quietly finished his entrenchments and ditches and then sent out a few horsemen to skirmish with them and try the temper of his men. They took several prisoners and returned with a number of heads elevated on their spears or dangling from their saddle bows which had a wonderful effect in restoring the confidence of the troops.

He now threw up other trenches in a position about a mile or two farther in advance near the spot which he had pitched upon as favorable for a general engagement and when they were finished advanced to occupy them dragging forward his guns. His people having reached their ground were still busy in pitching their tents when news was brought that the enemy was in sight. All were instantly ordered to their posts. The Sultan mounted and drew up his troops riding cheerfully along the ranks and confidently assuring them of victory.
Battle positions of Sultan Ibrahim Lodi

The center Ibrahim Lodi took to himself assisted by Taimur the right wing he committed to Qassim Hussein who under him hadHindu Baig and Khusroe Kokultash while the left wing he entrusted to Sayid Mahdi Qwaja with Muhammad Sultan O'zbek, Abdul Aziz and Mohammed Ali. He appointed strong reserves to carry out rescue efforts wherever required. On the right and left placed two flanking columns chiefly composed of Delhi Sultanate troops who formed what is called the Tulughma and were on a signal given to wheel round on the enemy's flank and rear in the heat of battle. This arrangement he had learned to his cost in his early wars with the and he had practiced it in his later wars with brilliant success. His Indian allied troops appear to have been stationed chiefly in the left. His artillery under the captured Timurid artillery maker Ustad Ali Kuli was placed in the center in front connected by chains and protected by the moveable defenses or breastworks which he had constructed, behind which were placed matchlock men and in their rear a body of chosen troops ready either to repel any attack from behind or themselves to rush forward and charge the enemy whenever the chains that connected the guns were dropped to permit their passage. The army abounded with veteran commanders who had learned the art of war under the Emperor himself.

Battle positions of Rana Sanga

In the Rajput army the commanders under Rana Sanga were generally great chieftains who from their territorial possessions could bring a large force into the field. Thus Silhadi a Tomar ( तोमर )Rajput chieftain of northeast Malwa, the Chief of Bhilsa is rated at having thirty thousand soldiers; Hasan Khan of Mewat having twelve thousand; Raul Uday Singh Nagari (राउल उदय नगरी सिंह); Medini Rao( मदीना राव) the Chief of Chanderi (चंदेरी) with ten thousand. Rana Sanga commanded a large army of fourteen thousand men. Sultan Mahmud Lodi, a man who possessed no kingdom to call his own but a wealth large enough to hire nine thousand warriors, mostly O'zbek warriors from Central Asia. There were other chiefs who commanded four thousand to seven soldiers and all were animated by the most exalted hopes and by hatred of the common enemy in the Sultanate. They also possessed six hundred Indian war elephants and included seven Rajas (राजाओं), nine Raos (राव्स) and one hundred Rawals (रावल) and Rawats (रावत). A more gallent army couldn't been put into the battlefield.
 
The Navatlacas: Heirs to Hernan and Montezuma

The Battle of the Yamuna

The battle

In the banks of the Yamuna the epic battle between the Muslim Delhi Sultanate and the Hindu Rajputs would play out. The battle began about 9:30 in the morning by a desperate charge made by the Rajputs on Sultan Ibrahim Lodi's right. Bodies of the reserve were pushed on to its assistance and Mustafa Rumi who commanded one portion of the artillery on the right of the center opened a fire upon the enemy soldiers. Still new bodies of the enemy poured on undauntedly and new detachments from the reserves were sent to resist them. The battle was no less desperate on the left to which also it was found necessary to dispatch repeated parties from the reserve. When the battle had lasted several hours and still continued to rage, Ibrahim Lodi sent orders to the flanking columns to wheel round and charge and he soon after ordered the guns to advance and by a simultaneous movement the household troops and horsemen stationed behind the cannons were ordered to gallop out on right and left of the matchlockmen in the center who also moved forward and continued their fire hastening to fling themselves with all their fury on the enemy's center. When this was observed in the wings they also advanced.

These unexpected movements made at the same moment threw the enemy into confusion. Enemy cannon fire caused some of the elephants in the Rajput army to stampede. Delhi Sultanate center was still shaken by the onslaught of the remaining elephant riders. The Rajputs however remained strong and united. They crushed the soldiers of the Sultan in great numbers. Towards evening the Sultanate defeat was complete and the slaughter was consequently dreadful. The fate of the battle was decided. made repeated flanking charges from the left and right of their fortified position. These mounted archers inflicted maximum losses on Sultanate ranks, as the latter were not accustomed to these.

Nothing remained for the Sultanate's soldiers to do but to force their way through the bodies of their kinsmen and enemy that were now in their rear and to affect a retreat. Rana Sangha pursued them as far as their camp which was about three or four miles from his own. On reaching it he halted but detached a strong body of horse with orders to pursue the broken troops of the Sultanate without halting to cut up all they met and to prevent them from re assembling. But the Sultan escaped along with a couple thousand troops. Rana later mentions his regret in not going with the detachment in pursuing the broken Sultanate troops because of the Sultan's escape.

Aftermath

No victory could be more complete. The enemy were quite broken and dispersed. The whole fields around were strewed with the dead as well as the roads to Agra and Deli. Among the slain were the majority of the nobility who fell by elephant crushing for the most part. Though the Sultanate had the advantage of technology, Rana Sangha had superior leadership and more importantly the factor of numbers. He henceforth declared himself Maharajah of the Rajput Confederacy. As for Sultan Ibrahim Lodi, he returned to his capital and would one day pose another challenge to the newly crowned Hindu leader.

Now the days of the Sultanate and Muslim rule of northern India were numbered......
 
Thank you. How plausible do you it is for one of the two developments for the Navatlaca empire?

A) A large personal army commanded by the Tlatoanitzin himself; a New World analogue to the Janissaries and the Mamelukes of the Ottomans and the other Islamic civilizations? An army manned by native Mesoamericans who have been extracted from their families, kind of like a blood tax. Instead of paying in money, one pays in their children who are brought to special academies in Tenochtitlan to be raised as warriors, Christian warriors who are loyal to only the Tlatoanitzin, well at least in the beginning.

B) Something along the likes of an organization that is a mixture of a predecessor to a modern day intelligence agency and secret police whose agents are deployed to crack down on potential dissendents?

Well Mesoamerica already had several known "Warrior Tribes"
(who fought as mercanaries for various feuding city-states and powers such as Tlaxcalla, the Tarascans, and the Aztecs)
, such as the Otomi so a Mameluke path is possible.
 
Well Mesoamerica already had several known "Warrior Tribes"
(who fought as mercanaries for various feuding city-states and powers such as Tlaxcalla, the Tarascans, and the Aztecs)
, such as the Otomi so a Mameluke path is possible.

That's exactly as how I am planning it.
 
So a fairly theocratic state whose aim is subjugation of pagans?

As long as it is ruled by people like Cortes and his successors, yes it will be. It'll make Spain (and Iberia) look like Heaven. Though for now most of the efforts will be concentrated towards pagans. There is only a negligible Muslim population and no Jews. Yet.
 

Kosta

Banned
As long as it is ruled by people like Cortes and his successors, yes it will be. It'll make Spain (and Iberia) look like Heaven. Though for now most of the efforts will be concentrated towards pagans. There is only a negligible Muslim population and no Jews. Yet.

But there are Muslims in the New World? That'd be interesting if you made mention on Muslim-Iberians in the Empire; maybe Cortes could trade them religious tolerance (but not approval) for loyalty; might be a nice way to attract Muslim cavalrymen to the New World, and Jewish merchants. But then again Cortes was quasi-looney (or he was full-blown crazy, I don't remember) so he might not be too keen on Muslims and Jews in the Empire. Perhaps his successor or a King down-the-line?
 
A large personal army commanded by the Tlatoanitzin himself; a New World analogue to the Janissaries and the Mamelukes of the Ottomans and the other Islamic civilizations? An army manned by native Mesoamericans who have been extracted from their families, kind of like a blood tax. Instead of paying in money, one pays in their children who are brought to special academies in Tenochtitlan to be raised as warriors, Christian warriors who are loyal to only the Tlatoanitzin, well at least in the beginning.

This :D
filler
 
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