The Land of Milk and Honey: An American TL

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Love, loved, loved the resolution to PATCO and the Business-Labor Partnership.

It was the best way I could see of going about it. Here, the 1970s are defined by a need to make things better for all, and the business community, which is increasingly run and influenced by the generation that grew up with Vietnam and the malaise, figures that if everybody gets a better life, they will as well. The accuracy of that opinion will be proven in the not-too-distant future.

Another bit I completely missed was the wanked Camp David Accords that established a three-state solution- where Jordan, Israel, and Palestine could be linked openly.

It's a bit of a wank, but Israel and Palestine still have disagreements (namely water supplies), but there is a Palestine and an Israel, and the two nations both base much of their governments in Jerusalem.

Also Iran staying a pro-Western power on an arc of increasing social liberty and economic diversification and helping the Middle East avoid a lot of the OTL silliness that devastated themeselves in the Iran-Iraq War, Lebanon, and elsewhere. Very nice indeed.:D

Quite true, and there is more to come from Iran. Tehran circa 2014 is gonna look more like a European city than anything else, and Iran by 2014 will be a potent middleweight power and one of West's best allies in the Middle East, and by that point we will have long ago stopped caring about Saudi Arabia and the (frequently troublesome) Gulf states. There will still be big differences in that part of the world between the nations involved still, just that "Death to America!" won't factor into it from either side. :)

With Ted and Jesse in charge in 1984, it's going to be a wild ride.

It will be, doubly so when you remember that the religious communities and the Republicans are about to end up in a full-blown war and the world is still a crazy place. The butterflies have taken off now, there is no stopping them.... :D

Trying to find a way to rebuild the US military w/o completely putting it on the credit card's a major factor in both defense planning, economic management, and foreign affairs.

True as this is, the economy of the United States is gonna work rather differently. Much more brick-and-mortar industries, and the greater focuses on science and math in schools means a considerably bigger base of skilled workers, and the result of that and different decisions by many American industrialists means that this nation has considerably greater export income and a considerably lower budget deficit which is going to fall further still. With America running a trade surplus by the late 1980s and fast economic growth and minus many of the stupid wastes of money of the time (A-12 Avenger being one example of many), the end result is gonna be a better equipped American armed forces that spends rather less money to do it.

Maybe I missed a whopper here, but did the Falklands crsis go down as OTL?

Reagan coming down decisively in favor of the UK did a lot to repair the "special" relationship between the US and UK.

I'm going this one as OTL, as I see no need to change it and yes, repairing the special relationship would be helpful. I was debating the idea of sending an USN battle group to shadow the British in case they needed backup, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna go that route. Either way, Argentina still loses, and loses ugly. That and the revelations of Operation Condor pretty much destroy any credibility the Argentine military had in running the nation.

A big WI now that HW Bush is out of the picture, how's the US-PRC relationship?

Not much has changed, as Bush was still the special ambassador to China. That will change in the future. I want China to suffer for Tiananmen Square, and slowing its growth will allow what went to the PRC in the 1990s to go to other nations - I'm wanting India, Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia and Vietnam to have rather better economic growth in the 1990s and 2000s. China will be recovering from its wounds (both self-inflicted and otherwise) by the 2000s, but they will have a ways to go.

Is the EMK Administration committed to backing Chinese economic reform if they don't reform politically?

After Tiananmen Square, heck no.

At any rate, love the TL and want to see what else you fix!

Lots more to come. :D
 
I'm sure you'll focus on other countries in the TL. Missed the Iran and 3 state solution for some reason, mind recapping those things for me?
Not sure what you could do about North Korea honestly. As for the USSR, how about having Gorbachev and his team come to power earlier, and finding a way for a more democratic USSR to survive.
 
Phenomenal updates!

Going back a bit, you've mentioned education reform at the primary and secondary level- bravo. Has anything changed on the college front?

With business so much more invested in education reform, it would make sense that their support extends to the university setting. Universal accreditation for STEM and maybe business degrees, and if we're going that far, why not the whole shebang, universal accreditation for everything?

We won't see the tuition explosion really take off until the late '80s/early '90s, but that's another area that might be ripe for action in a few chapters. And of course there's always the pipe dream of state rebated tuition (ranging from a free associate's degree at your local community college in needed fields to a full ride at any state school for the bachelor's degree of your choice.)

Also, there's been no word on immigration. Similar to OTL?
 
Chapter Eight: New Names, New Faces, New Places, New Problems

The swearing in of the second Kennedy to reside in the White House on January 20, 1985, was a spirited affair to say the least, not least because of the vast crowds on the Mall to watch the whole affair, which was televised live across the nation. The Inaugural Balls and ceremonies and all the usual pageantry was its normal excellent self, but there was more to it than that. Kennedy's rise to the presidency was in itself an excellent story, and the rapid and powerful political rise of Reverend Jesse Jackson only added to it. The first black man to every occupy a position in America's executive ranks was an eloquent speaker, aware that his actions would matter just as much as Kennedy's would, and his inauguration speech was a call to arms for advocates of American development. Kennedy was the same, but he had some big promises to fulfull early on in his presidency, and he didn't take long to get at it, starting with his first moves on his very first day in office, that being to massively expand the Superfund Law and reverse Reagan's social security adjustments, which Kennedy had claimed were robbing its recipients. That was merely the start of matters.

Kennedy's decision to have Jackson as VP gave him both a man people would listen to with regards to civil rights and a person who had high expectations, and Jackson got on that job quickly. While Kennedy was busy with domestic policy - he had proposed quite a lot in that regard - Jackson went into the international arena, and was highly regarded from the start, with British PM Margaret Thatcher referring to Jackson as "a gentleman of the finest order" and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney referring to him as "One of the best men Washington has." Jackson's early focus on foreign affairs didn't matter a lick to many in the activist community, who figured (correctly) that Kennedy would be on their side. How much he was would be shown early on as well.

Kennedy's first major wish was health care reform. Kennedy had introduced a comprehensive health care reform package (that he had been researching for years) in the summer of 1984, expecting it to be reintroduced by a colleague after the election. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan did the honors on that one in the Senate, while Congressman Doris Miller (D-Texas) did the same thing in the House. With all three branches held by the Democrats and the GOP in a mess, there was little to stop the development of a health care package, and it didn't hurt that the allies for its passage grew quickly. The most notable package was the option for any American citizen to buy into Medicare and begin receiving its coverage immediately, in effect forcing private insurance providers to keep up with them in terms of both price and quality. Numerous other provisions made for improved quality of care from private insurers and made a number of other changes, including outlawing the use of "pre-existing conditions" to deny coverage, eliminating lifetime caps on treatment and numerous other practices of the industry. Also controversially, the bill mandated coverage for non-invasive forms of birth control (the Catholic Church and some evangelical groups were livid at this) and saw all partnerships as valid as far as medical decisions were concerned. America's health care industries were divided, but the front-line workers were almost universally in favor of the bill. The insurance industry tooled up a massive campaign to defeat it, but ran into an equally-massive campaign to support it from both unionized industry interests (who would gain big in reducing health care costs) and the unions themselves, as well as consumer groups. The act ripped through the House easily, but ran into a little bit of trouble in the Senate, namely due to the Republicans, who saw it as a massive intrusion into everyday life for many. That division was cleared fairly easily, and after passing the bill and reconciling the two bills, the Advancement of American Health Care Act was signed into law by President Kennedy on April 25, 1985, the first truly "big" bill of his presidency and one of the ones which would have the most impact. It transformed the nation's health care industries, and it also had a number of other effects, particularly in employment fields. With plenty of incentive give by the bill to provide more and better coverage (if companies enrolled employees in higher-coverage plans, they could write it off to reduce their tax bill), industries began finding the value in making sure employees were well covered, and as this also in the overwhelming majority of cases resulted in higher productivity in the businesses in question, those who weren't leading from the front on this quickly got the message, and by the time Kennedy was up for re-election in 1988 all Americans were covered by health insurance coverage either private or public, and the overall health of Americans was showing improvement, an improvement that continued into the 1990s.

Kennedy continued Reagan's defense buildup, and had little difficulty with it, twice being the keynote speaker at warship commissioning ceremonies (the USS Missouri in San Francisco in September 1985 and USS Theodore Roosevelt in New York in July 1986) and publicly backing the efforts to expanding the armed forces' abilities. Reagan's deployment of medium-range ballistic missiles to Western Europe was controversially supported by Kennedy, though many of his critics would admit that it had been a good idea when held in the context of the deployment of Soviet SS-20 missiles. Jackson's foreign policy roles took a rather different tack with Latin America than Reagan had done, publicly renouncing the actions of Operation Condor and announcing that Latin America's freedom from tyranny was America's only interest in the region. To that end, America loudly supported the admittedly-rocky transitions to democracy of several Latin American nations, notably Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Venezuela. Jackson and Kennedy were also very strong opponents of South Africa, while at the same time loudly condemning the involvement of any groups in Angola. Kennedy refused to support the guerillas in Afghanistan, but the mujaheddin groups were most of the time able to get around this through the use if supporters in Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States and Iraq, who simply bought weapons and then shipped them, using contacts within the CIA and Department of Defense. This was discovered by the Church Committee in 1987, and it resulted in dozens of resignations and a complete halt to any form of clandestine weapons support, as well as a very public rift between the Arabian Peninsula states and the United States, both keen to face down to Soviet Union but the former much more willing and able to do so by clandestine means. This wouldn't prove to be an easy schism to get over, but it did however provide an opening for the traditional adversary of the Gulf states - Iran - to jump into the mold, which Tehran did. They quite publicly sealed the border between Iran and Afghanistan and were loudly against the Soviets' War in Afghanistan and provided support the mujaheddin themselves, but made sure nothing from the US got in that way unless it was authorized from a very high level, usually Jackson or Kennedy. This arrangement meant that some weapons still filtered from America to the Afghans, but what little support they had proved to be immensely troublesome to the Russians, who were finding out the hard way that immense Soviet military power couldn't suppress the Afghans - in other words, they were learning what America had in Vietnam.

The drug epidemic, which had gotten considerably worse during Reagan's time, was also aggressively tackled by Kennedy through much the same two-front strategy that had been undertaken by Carter in the late 1970s, but by now the crack epidemic was very real and needed to be handled. Both federal and state drug treatment programs were massively expanded by the National Drug Policy Act in July 1985, with the focus in most of these cases being stopping the crack epidemic, which had reached epic proportions by then. It also didn't take long before "broken windows" policing strategies began taking hold, first doing so in New York in the early 1980s. (It didn't hurt that New York's aggressive city district attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was both able and willing to attack crime of all sorts, right up to and including the famous Mafia Commission Trials in 1985-86, where he gutted the leadership of the Five Families of the New York Mafia.) The broken windows theories were assisted by the fact that wealth was by then flowing into these areas, and this led through the decade to massive gentrification efforts, which gave local residents all the incentive they needed to make sure their communities didn't get wrecked by crime. Massive expansions of mass transit systems, a trend started in the early 1970s and continuing to the present, made access to these parts of the city much easier and made gentrification possible in more ways than one. By this point, the beginnings of a backlash against Suburbia had also began, with people questioning whether the vast parking lots, big-box stores and strip malls, huge houses on large properties were truly worth the compromises that such living ultimately resulted in. This was most exemplified in wide-scale cities which were showing major signs of redevelopment in city centers such as Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, Houston, Chicago, Philadelphia and Indianapolis. Many of these places made up for their problems with traffic through the use of interlocking transit systems and schedules, but even that was not really a solution to the massive problems that many faced with traffic, though they showed improvements. Cities which had retained their rail-based transit systems during the 1950s and 1960s saw the benefit most of all as the development of better transit systems, lower crime rates, greater cultural attractions and better access to schools and hospitals resulted in inner-city populations growing in the 1980s and 1990s.

America's industrial sectors began shifting during this time frame as well. A number of huge and ambitious corporate restructuring plans went through in the 1980s, with those most commonly effecting the metals industries. Rapid expansion of the use of aluminum in many industries and changes in grades of steel used frequently saw the old-school integrated mills of the past being closed, but in a number of cases the mills were repurposed to producing higher-density metals and specialized products such as rails, heavy truck frames, big water pipes and structural steel products. One of the signs of this was Bethlehem Steel's namesake plant in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania which was sold off to its employees in 1987. The employee management then shocked the hell out of the former owners by announcing the repurposing of the plant to both make steel and cast large pieces for various purposes, able to do so in an efficient manner. The plant was producing such products by 1990, and in 1990 they got a big contract to supply hundreds of pieces to repair damaged battleship USS Iowa and cast pieces for several Arleigh Burke-class destroyers for the Navy. There would be dozens of major movements in such a way in the 1980s and 1990s. The industrial front also included some notable successes for American manufacturers. One of the most high-profile of this was the partnership between Atari Technologies and Sony to create a video game system, this coming after Nintendo broke a deal with Sony to make the next-generation video game system. The Sony-Atari project resulted in the Sony Playstation and the Atari Jaguar, both released on the same day in 1994 which were incredibly successful, in large part because the two systems could use each others' games. The Playstation handily outsold the Jaguar, but both companies were more than satisfied with the project and continued to work together in the future. One other notable reorganization success story was RCA, which began a revolution with the introduction of its first full-color plasma display panel televisions in 1983, a revolution when placed against the massive CRTs of the time. RCA's efforts were rapidly followed by others, but their lead in this field was such that RCA made a killing on it, allowing its consumer electronics divisions to remain profitable. American Motors' alliance with state-owned French automaker Renault in 1981 became a roaring success and was followed by Chrysler doing the same with Peugeot-Citroen in 1984, and General Dynamics got a surprise when they sold their famous Fore River Shipyard to its employees in January 1986 and then found out that the new company, New England Shipbuilding Industries, had a big contract from Hess Petroleum for seven 190,000-ton product tankers waiting on their desk. Hess, already famous for its efforts to advance industries in the Northeastern states, got famous first through the building of a plant to produce synthetic petroleum from low-sulfur coal in 1980 (this plant, built on an already-contaminanted site in Bruin, Pennsylvania, opened in 1984 and was producing 35,000 barrels of oil a day by 1987), but Hess' research division then worked out a way to make carbon fiber in large amounts from the leftovers from its Bruin facility in 1991, making carbon-fiber at much-reduced cost to traditional methods. American manufacturers in the 1980s went through the decades filled with confidence and with an educated engineering corps eager to erase anyone else's lead in technology and quality. With more and more American cars, electronics, consumer goods, aircraft, chemicals, refined fuels, machinery, vessels, high-end clothing and metals moving out than ever before, by the late 1980s the country's industrial output was surging - and with it was the profits of many of the manufacturers of it.

As America's might in economic, industrial and military might grew steadily, the Soviet Union finally hit its breaking point. By the time Mikhail Gorbachev came to power in the USSR in March 1985, the Soviet Union was simply unable to maintain parity with America in economic or military terms, and Gorbachev was well aware that continuing to try to do would ultimately result in the economic collapse of the USSR. Realizing that, he began to programs of perestroika and glasnost, 'restructuring' and 'openness' in Russian. Realizing that doing this would make dealing with the USSR easier, it was welcomed by the West, and his first meeting with President Kennedy in November 1985 was a watershed moment for both sides, as both Kennedy and Gorbachev found it surprisingly easy to work with one another, and Gorbachev's moves to suspend and then reverse SS-20 deployment to Europe was matched by the removal of Pershing IIs by the United States. Gorbachev's movements included the approval of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty in 1987 and the end of the Brezhnev Doctrine in 1988, the latter in large part kicked along by Jackson, who said loudly in a 1987 speech in Berlin "The People of Europe deserve to be free, Mr. Gorbachev. Their Freedom is in your hands. You can bring down this wall, you can bring down the Iron Curtain. If you are truly a man of openness, bring down these walls and let freedom ring!" The decision to withdraw from Eastern Europe would result in the collapse of communism in Western Europe in 1989, the moment most famously encapsulated by the collapse of the Berlin Wall in November 1989.

The massive economic growth, social progress and success in foreign policy allowed Kennedy and Jackson to comfortably re-elected in 1988 over the Republican ticket of Senator Bob Dole of Kansas and New Jersey Governor Thomas Kean, with Dole and Kean being honest enough to accept that Kennedy's social programs were working, though Dole loudly felt that as the Soviet Union was facing economic crisis, it would be best for America to shove them over the edge, a move which Kennedy vehemently disagreed with and Jackson called "insanity". Despite the disagreements, the election was rather more civil than those of 1980 and 1984, as Kennedy and Jackson had respect for Dole and knew well that the Republicans were moving to more moderate positions. Their second term would be marked by major changes to the world, as the Soviet Union finally gave up the ghost and the new world beyond it would show itself....
 
Jesse Jackson with the "tear down the wall speech?

Who would have thought...

Good update.

Waiting for more.
 
I'm sure you'll focus on other countries in the TL. Missed the Iran and 3 state solution for some reason, mind recapping those things for me?
Not sure what you could do about North Korea honestly. As for the USSR, how about having Gorbachev and his team come to power earlier, and finding a way for a more democratic USSR to survive.

The USSR has so far been close to OTL, but it won't stay that way. The end of the USSR isn't gonna be pretty, but the violence of 1992-93 in the former USSR will make absolutely sure that nobody in most of the post-Soviet states tolerate overbearing, tyrannical government again any time soon. They will still be powerful later on, but the Russia and post-Soviet states of this world will be very, very different places. Not sure how well this will work, though. Opinions are quite welcome on this one. :)

As far as North Korea goes, I'm debating having Kim Il Sung pass a couple years earlier and have the 1990s famine result in the collapse of North Korea's government, forcing South Korea (and Japan and the West) to get in there and fix matters, and Japan is gonna use the 1990s involvement in North Korea to begin the long task of fixing relations with its neighbors and making amends for its own ugly past. The job of rebuilding North Korea takes decades, but South Korea does it in any case, and by the early 2010s Japan and Korea (and Taiwan, the Philippines and Hong Kong) are working together in all kinds of areas.

Saddam Hussein's attacks on Kuwait (not butterflying that), the end of the USSR, Korea's unification and the mess in Rwanda in 1994 (and to a lesser extent problems in Southeast Asia and South Africa) will make sure that the first half of the 1990s is very, very bloody, but the price paid for it will make a better world later on in history.

Phenomenal updates!

Going back a bit, you've mentioned education reform at the primary and secondary level- bravo. Has anything changed on the college front?

With business so much more invested in education reform, it would make sense that their support extends to the university setting. Universal accreditation for STEM and maybe business degrees, and if we're going that far, why not the whole shebang, universal accreditation for everything?

I'm hoping to do this in the early 1990s, but before then, colleges will be providing huge amounts of on-the-job training for university graduates and others to allow them to more easily get into the workforce and expand accreditation programs, with that falling under the Department of Education and Human Development. Universities will be better accredited so that both their students and their graduates will find moving forwards with their education and their careers easier.

We won't see the tuition explosion really take off until the late '80s/early '90s, but that's another area that might be ripe for action in a few chapters. And of course there's always the pipe dream of state rebated tuition (ranging from a free associate's degree at your local community college in needed fields to a full ride at any state school for the bachelor's degree of your choice.)

I don't think I can go that far, but the cost of education in America will be far, far less than OTL, and you can claim 100% of it against your taxes. The cost of good state education systems (like those in New York, California, Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Washington and Illinois ITTL) will be considerably less than now, with a similar number of grads to now in the arts and humanities, a few more in the business departments and a lot more the STEM fields.

Also, there's been no word on immigration. Similar to OTL?

For now. Will change in the 1990s.
 
Jesse Jackson with the "tear down the wall speech?

Who would have thought...

Not quite the same speech, but close enough. I want Jesse Jackson to retire after politics having done more for the image of African Americans than anyone save Dr. King. There will be a certain gentleman with the last name Obama who will add to that later on....
 
Loved the latest update.

I thought I'd throw in my vote for more US-USSR successor engagement.

Finding a way to avoid the Russian economy crashing through the floor and some flavor of aid/trade/co-development deals to allow Russian firms to make and sell stuff folks could actually want, no eastward expansion of NATO, and a few other goodies could really improve things.

It was a major dropped ball during the 1990's. The US can't do everything, but it could definitely avoid antagonizing the Russians with the handling of the Balkan conflicts.

I'd love to see you elaborate on the Korean Unification campaign, and other conflicts in the 1990's.

As the 80's Cold War morphed into the 90's interregnum,
does the US embrace a leaner, more expeditionary force suited to OOTW or does it still have the Cold War emphasis on massive force projection?
 
As long as the Baltic States are independent, I'm interested in seeing any post-Soviet scenario.;)

Also, I really would be interested in seeing the US normalize relations with Cuba. There have been several clear possibilities IOTL (with the collapse of the USSR being a big one) but I don't think I've ever seen a TL attempt it.
 
Chapter Nine: The End of the Cold War and the Birth of the "Hyperpower"

As Edward Kennedy and Jesse Jackson began their second term in January 1989, the world had begun to shift in ways once thought unimaginable. Glasnost and Perestroika were having effects on Eastern Europe that few could have ever predicted, and communism was seemingly on the verge of collapse. The withdrawal of the Brezhnev Doctrine saw 1989 be a crazy year in the Warsaw Pact nations....and it ended with the dramatic fall in the Berlin Wall in November 1989 and the subsequent domino-like collapse of nearly all of the Warsaw Pact's communist nations. The progress began in Poland, where Lech Walesa's Solidarity trade union movement successfully evolved into a political movement, and on June 4, 1989, Solidarity easily nearly entirely swept Poland's 1989 elections, with the first non-Communist Party government in the Eastern Bloc, led by Walesa and Tadeusz Mazowiecki, taking power in Warsaw on August 25, 1989, despite calls from parties within the USSR and from Romania's Nicolae Ceaucescu for the rest of the Warsaw Pact to get militarily involved. But at almost at the same time was a bigger story, and one which had bigger consequences than what was happening in Poland.

The death of popular former Chinese Communist Party General Secretary Hu Yaobang in April 1989 caused a mess in China. With an economy stagnating since the mid-1980s (and 1988 economic decisions causing a sharp recession in China that year) and Deng Xiaopeng's economic reforms moving slowly, combined with gross corruption (both real and perceived) within China's elite, a perception not helped by Yaobang's removal from leadership in 1987 (caused in large part by massive student protests in China in 1986 and 1987) and the serious problems with nepotism and corruption that were by 1989 rampant in China. Peaceful negotiations between CCP moderates and the student protesters were perpetually undermined by conservative groups, and on June 4, the People's Liberation Army was called in to clear the square. Approaching it from all sides, they hemmed in tens of thousands of protesters, including camera crews from several nations (including the United States) and began firing. With troops from all of the PLA units involved firing, students began fighting back with rocks, bottles, molotov cocktails, chunks of pavement and other tools. The PLA then stopped negotiating and simply spent all of June 4 and much of June 5 shooting their way into the square. CNN reporter James Wilson and his cameraman and sound crew were filming the situation just after eleven in the evening (local time) when a 81mm mortar round from the 38th Army landed within five meters of them, killing Wilson and the cameraman instantly. Any form of protest against the troops' advance through the night was met with gunfire, with reports of tanks shelling apartment buildings, the use of field artillery, snipers and troops spraying buildings and apartment blocks with machine gun fire quickly reverbrated around China and around the world, and were met in China with more troop response. The end result was a death toll estimated at a minimum of 15,000 and a number of wounded of over a quarter of a million.

The first nastiness outside of China as a result of this was in Hong Kong. Hong Kong had quite openly supported the protesters and their goals, and news of Tiananmen Square caused chaos in Hong Kong. June 6 and the days afterwards started a political crisis, as protests at Government House in Hong Kong on June 9, 1989, had crowds in the hundreds of thousands demanding that Hong Kong's planned return to China in 1997 be scrapped. When the massive protests swept through Guangdong province in June 1989 and Britain announced that it would not break the deal with China on June 25, 1989, over 250,000 people attempted to flee Hong Kong in just two weeks. Making matters worse was that many of China's now-powerful leaders were demanding that China rip up the 1984 Joint Declaration and take back Hong Kong by force, a statement by Li Peng on June 28, 1989, adding fuel to that fire. Left with accelerating chaos in the colony and staring its economic destruction in the face, the Governor of Hong Kong begged both London and Beijing to make a deal over the situation. British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher came to Hong Kong on July 16, 1989, in an attempt to work with Deng on fixing the issues - but she was met at the airport with massive, unruly protests and faced Deng's senior leaders being belligerent, a fact made worse the day before Thatcher arrived when news of the 64th Army being stationed in Guangdong made it to Hong Kong. Thatcher left Hong Kong six days later disheartened, commenting to one of her advisors "We can either destroy Hong Kong or let it destroy itself." But in this case, she got a lifeline.

Washington was to say the least not pleased with what had happened in China, and the loud belligerence of many of China's post-Tiananmen Square leaders didn't make Washington any more pleased. China-US relations had been quite good for years before Tiananmen Square, but facing a situation which by then was getting traction in the United States, Kennedy and Jackson decided to act. On July 23, 1989, the United States stunned the world when VP Jackson said that he felt that Hong Kong's status needed to be clarified by Hong Kong, China and Britain. China's leaders were furious, Hong Kong took it as a sign that America would support changing the situation. Thatcher, hearing that upon arriving back in Britain, is known to have said aloud "Bless you, Reverend Jackson, for you have just saved Hong Kong." Three days after that, the United Kingdom tore up the Joint Declaration, resolving to keep Hong Kong under British leadership until such time as a new deal could be renegotiated between the People's Republic of China and the United Kingdom. China's anger was even more pronounced, and talk of an invasion of Hong Kong quickly spread. But this time, figuring that America would indeed after Tiananmen Square be willing to defend Hong Kong from an aggressive China, many of the Hong Kongers held their ground. True to form, brand-new American aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, fellow carrier USS John F. Kennedy and battleship USS Missouri, along with their battle groups, were sent to the area to show that America was serious about making China talk out Hong Kong's status. Kennedy himself on August 25 spoke of the need for the parties involved to peacefully negotiate out the political problems. The Missouri docked in Hong Kong two days later to a very appreciative crowd of over 30,000, and by this point optimism about a new deal for Hong Kong was strong.

China wasn't willing to negotiate out a new timeline for Hong Kong, and the hardliners, many of whom had not approved of the terms of the takeover in the first place, fought it bitterly. By early 1990, the conversation was heading in the direction of an independent Hong Kong, but China scuttled that with its October 1990 declaration that any declaration of independence by Hong Kong or Taiwan would be seen as a declaration of war against China. Thatcher's resignation in November 1990 saw her replaced by John Major, and Major's appointment of Chris Patten to replace Sir David Wilson in May 1991 raised more than a few eyebrows in both Hong Kong and Britain....but Major bravely settled the debate on September 19, 1991, when he announced in Britain's House of Commons that he would make major modifications to the British Nationality Act to allow Hong Kongers to acquire British citizenship, and that Hong Kong would have its powers significantly expanded. Britain would retain responsibility for defense and foreign affairs, but a democratically-elected Legislative Council of Hong Kong would have the right to pass laws, with only those violating terms and conditions set out in a basic constitution for Hong Kong being invalid - and Patten's job was to oversee the process.

America loudly backed their ally, and the decision, hated as it was by China, held easily, and Hong Kong's economy, bloodied badly by the 1989-91 crisis, recovered substantially in the 1990s, while one of Hong Kong's first decision after the passing of the Basic Law in April 1992 was to throw the gates open to Chinese dissidents to come to Hong Kong in safety. That decision was opposed by Major, but under the terms of the Basic Law, he could not challenge it unless it made a foreign affairs or defense issue, and he didn't try. China's hard conservative turn in the 1990s caused tens of thousands of Chinese professionals, intellectuals and artists, as well as many prominent businessmen, to settle in Hong Kong, while the Royal Navy re-established a full naval base there in 1994. Hong Kong's relationship with China would remain rocky for many years to come, but America's stand with it improved its relations with other nations in Asia, particularly Taiwan and Korea.

Back in Europe, Hungary's decision to dismantle its border fence with Austria on May 2, 1989, opened the first crack in the Iron Curtain. It would be the first of many. The situation in East Germany came to a head on October 9, when East Germany's police and armed forces were ordered to put a halt to a massive protest in Liepzig, but upon reaching the scene - and finding an estimated 80,000 of their countrymen there - the soldiers and police refused to open fire. On November 9, East Berlin was suddenly swamped with people seeking to push their way through the wall, and as soon as that news ran through West Berlin, tens of thousands of West Berliners joined them in tearing down the wall. The TV images of the scene, of Germans from both sides of the Iron Curtain embracing one another, made headlines around the world. The collapse of communism in one nation after another after that moment was spectacular. Ceaucescu, who had openly advocated for military force to stop the new Polish government a few months earlier, was executed by a provisional government along with his wife on Christmas Day, 1989, with all but Romania seeing the Communist governments collapse with very little violence. The speed of it all overtook all but the most optimistic of predictions - few expected the Warsaw Pact to collapse in literally weeks - but it made sure that when Kennedy and Gorbachev met again, on the Soviet cruise ship Maxim Gorky in Malta on February 10, 1990, the focus was on making a new world. Gorbachev, who had not exactly gotten through the Revolutions of 1989 unscathed, was intent on trying to get American help to mitigate the aftermath, and he was surprised that Kennedy agreed with him on the need to try to keep the situations from getting violent. Gorbachev also threw in that the USSR did not approve of China's actions at Tiananmen Square that the Hong Kong problem needed to be solved without violence. With America being economically prosperous and Gorbachev well aware that he needed help to bring prosperity to the Soviet Union, Gorbachev and Kennedy agreed that the USSR and USA would attempt to solve issues of mutual interest together, and that the two leaders should keep a regular open dialogue to make sure there were no vast disagreements on issues.

Gorbachev's attempts at reform had opened a Pandora's box, though.

Glasnost had done something that few - Gorbachev included - had anticipated. The Revolutions of 1989 directly led to calls for secession by a number of Soviet Republics, particularly the Baltic states forcibly taken over by Stalin in 1940 and the long-restless Caucasus regions. Promises of greater decentralization had an effect in several of the Soviet Republics, but for the Baltic states and Armenia it had little hope of success. Soviet hardliners, seeing the success through force that their Chinese counterparts had achieved the year before, orchestrated a massive coup against Gorbachev on September 25, 1990. The coup's first act was the murders of Gorbachev and rebellious Russian Republic leader Boris Yeltsin, an act that would come back to haunt them in a big way. They were too late to stop the Baltics, Armenia and Georgia from breaking away, and Azerbaijan, the people there furious after the events of Black January earlier in the year, also walked out on the USSR. Popular support for the coup was minimal, but the army and the security services backed it in a big way, and the Soviet Army was sent out to attempt to restore Moscow's control over its republics. This resulted in one bout of violence after another, and it came to a head in Azerbaijan, when the newly-formed Azerbaijani People's Defense Council fought back against the Red Army with the weapons of locally-stationed Red Army units. The Red Army was singularly unsuccessful in stopping the momentum the reformers had, and while a sizable portion of the establishment supported the Soviet Union, the situation devolved into armed conflict in numerous places, starting with Ukraine, Georgia and Kazakhstan. By January 1991, the situation in the Soviet Union had devolved into a bitter civil war.

America was called by many in the West and some Americans to get involved in the ugly civil war, but fearing such a war going nuclear, the American armed forces stayed clear except in a handful of critical cases. America did, however, provide billions in humanitarian aid, and with the civil war turning into a stalemate by the Spring of 1991 began authorizing units to search out and locate Russia's vast arsenal of nuclear weapons, fearing them in the hands of terrorists or being used by the opposing sides in the war. The latter fear turned out to be unfounded largely due to the fact that both sides had such weapons and feared the use of them by the other side. Rutskoy's massive victory over a rebel column in western Russia personally led by Vladimir Kryuchkov, which resulted in Kryuchkov being seriously wounded in the battle, in November 1991 broke the stalemate and began the destruction of the hardline forces. (Kryuchkov would later die of his injuries.) The civil war lasted into 1992, but 18 months of war had by that time killed over 350,000 people and massively reduced everyone's supplies, a situation not improved by the unwillingness of anyone else to supply them. By the fall of 1991, former SSRs where the hardliners had lost the battle - including all of the Caucasus regions, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan - had become independent nations. The world'd attention got drawn back onto the mess on January 8, 1992, when a government unit fired a number of badly-aimed Scud-B missiles at Ukrainian forces and instead had three of them land within the Chernobyl reactor complex, causing a partial failure of the containment structure over the destroyed Number Four reactor. Chernobyl was hit again by missile fire six days later and a third time two days after that, but the plant, which had been closed in December 1990, was not operating. One waste-storage complex was hit, however, adding to the existing serious problems with radioactivity in the complex.

On April 20, 1992, the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church went on television in Kyiv, Ukraine, and loudly called for the violence to stop. The government forces loudly refused this, saying that "we will stop when the traitors have been defeated, the bastards are all dead." Rutskoy, by contrast, spoke approvingly of negotiating a ceasefire, but the continued unwillingness by the hardliners to listen made sure it came to nothing. But a series of huge wins in European Russia in the summer of 1992 allowed Rutskoy's forces to gain a huge military advantage, and Moscow fell to the rebels on October 19, 1992. Of the "Gang of Ten" leaders of the 1990 coup, only two were alive after the assault, both arrested by Russian Republic military forces. These two, Gennady Yanayev and Dmitry Yazov, were both sentenced to life imprisonment, avoiding the death penalty mainly because after nearly half a million dead, in the words of Alexander Yakolev, "There has been quite enough killing." It was in many ways a hollow victory, but it meant huge changes for the psyche of most of the nations most effected.

Decades of Soviet oppression and the brutality of the two years of civil war made very sure that the people of the devastated nations were not keen on authoritarian government, and the new governments of the nations involved made this point clear. This didn't always work out too well, as the problems between Georgia and Abkhazia and the battles between Armenia and Azerbaijan would frequently show, but the governments in the nations that had risen from the burnt ashes of the Soviet Union were absolutely committed to democracy and civil rights, with a population willing and able to go out and loudly protest when they felt that their rights were not adequately protected. The "tryanny of the majority" did at times cause serious issues, but the new nations wouldn't soon give up their hard-won freedoms - part of this being that, frankly, the post-war USSR had little else. The country gave up nearly the entirety of its nuclear arsenal and demobilized its armed forces to a massive degree at the end of the Civil War, as well as going looking for partnerships and technology absolutely everywhere they could, abandoning many of the previous Soviet-era industrial organizations and planning techniques in favor of market chasing and looking for export potential absolutely everywhere possible with the intent of funding the rebuilding process of the war-torn areas. This would be a very long process, but it would start bearing fruits by the early 2000s.

As if the Revolutions of Eastern Europe and the nastiness in China wasn't enough, problems brewed in a third spot, in this case the Middle East. Iraq, run since 1979 by the thuggish Saddam Hussein, had sought in the early 1980s to get back a chunk of land he had sought after by trying to destabilize Iran, but his attempts had gotten nowhere except for sporadic military offenses in 1980-82. Saddam had, however, long been able to get money from the selling of oil abroad, and as with Argentina in the 1970s, money from oil allowed Saddam to purchase weapons in big quantities from the Soviets and from some European nations. By 1990, Saddam had given up trying to push Iran around - he feared a retaliation by the Iranians, who had by 1990 built a strong army and one of the world's best air forces - and had instead turned his attention to the oil-rich Arabian Peninsula. Making matters worse was that the OPEC cartel consistently found that Kuwait was overproducing oil and causing the cartel to get a depressed price. Iraq's use of chemical weapons on its restless Kurdish population in 1988 had caused a complete break in relations between the United States (and Iran) and Iraq, and Iraq's social problems, particularly attacks on expatriates within Iraq, contributed to serious problems with its neighbors. At the same time, Iraq had built a massive army, with Saddam claiming that it was to protect Arabs from Iran, despite the fact that by 1990 Iran was trying to improve relations with its Arab neighbors. Saddam was not to be deterred easily, and on August 2, 1990, the Iraqis invaded Kuwait. The Kuwaitis in a handful of places put up a stiff fight, but they were unprepared for the invasion and were outnumbered at least twenty to one by the Iraqis. Resistance in Kuwait collapsed within twelve hours, leaving Saddam in control of Kuwait.

Iran and all of the Arab states went to high alert. Saddam, who had long opposed the Ottawa Treaty, attempted to frame the war as the beginning of an attempt by Iraq to unify Arabs against outside forces, specifically naming Iran, Israel and America as three enemies to be kicked out of the Middle East. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, at a meeting of the Arab League on August 11, called that comment "absolute nonsense" and said that "Saddam wants to control the Arab world, pure and simple". The Saudis were especially concerned, as were the Gulf states. Shah Reza Pahlavi II commented of Saddam "He's a thug and a fool" and if he was to attack Iran "He will regret such an action in very short order". The main Western concern in this case was the proximity of Saddam's forces to the oil fields of Saudi Arabia. The invasion also caused a sudden and quite substantial rise in oil prices, which came down rapidly once increasing production by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Angola and Canada made up much of the difference of the lost Kuwaiti production. But the fear of Saddam's actions resulted in a huge military deployment by the United States and allied nations.

Operation Desert Shield began with the deployments of the forces of dozens of nations, with American efforts backed up by the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Italy, France, Spain, the Netherlands, India, Argentina and Brazil. Israel offered to support, but aware of Saddam's rhetoric, was asked to keep their powder dry, which they did. Most of the Arabs attacked by Saddam also lined up to back up the coalition effort, while Japan and Germany provided logistical support. Iran also offered to get involved but ultimately stayed out. With the Soviet Union descending into civil war, Saddam had only one source for resupply, that being China, who was happy to help....for a while, which ended on December 21, 1990, when one of their IL-76 transport jets, flying to Mosul, Iraq, from China was accidentally shot down by a Soviet anti-aircraft missile over Azerbaijan. Fast sealift ships and container vessels allowed for a fast logistical buildup, and the navies of the Coalition nations moved in in force. American carriers USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, USS Independence and USS Enterprise were sent out to the region, as well as battleships USS Missouri and USS Wisconsin. They were joined by both of the UK's big flat-deck carriers, HMS Queen Elizabeth II and HMS Prince of Wales, Canada's HMCS Eagle and France's FS Clemenceau. Iraq's destruction for the sake of destruction in Kuwait was instrumental in making sure the invasion went ahead.

Operation Desert Storm began on January 15, 1991, when Missouri and Wisconsin fired the first shots of the war on Iraqi targets near the coasts of Iraq. They were followed by massive waves of airstrikes from Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the various carriers. Somewhat to the Americans' chargin, the Commonwealth battle group based around Queen Elizabeth II, Prince of Wales and Eagle were better than most, in large part due to Canadian CF-18 Hornets painting targets for the British carriers and their Blackburn Buccaneer strike aircraft, which proved to be remarkably capable. The air war started with destroying the Iraqi air force on the ground, then taking out command and control facilities and then hunting Scud missiles and their launchers. Saddam attempted to attack Israel, but Israeli, Jordanian and Palestinian air defenses handled that problem rather handily, and an attempt by Saddam to attack Jerusalem infuriated many on the Arab Street as much as it did the Israelis. Saddam fired over 200 Scuds at other nations, doing damage in Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. But on January 24, Iraq got a shock it hadn't expected.

Intensive negotiating sessions in Amman between the Israelis, Iranians and Arab leaders had come to the conclusion that since Saddam was attacking the Israelis, they had the right to respond. On the night of January 24, the Israeli Air Force did just that, with a massive strike on Iraqi Air Bases in central Iraq backed up by their own tankers....but the Israelis were surprised when the Jordanians and Palestinians took off behind them and blasted targets of their own, striking notably at the al-Taqqadum Airbase in west-central Iraq. Six Iraqi MiG-21s got airborne to engage as that airbase was attacked, with four Israeli F-15Cs moving north to take them out. Palestinian F-4E Phantom IIs got two of the Iraqi jets (though lost one of their own to a ground-based SAM), a Jordanian Dassault Mirage F1 picked off a third and the Israelis wiped out the other three before all their air forces headed back as one unit. It was not the only strike of the night, but the news of the three nations fighting together was reported in Ha'aretz in Israel on January 26 and caused a sensation in all three nations.

The first ground battle for the Saudi city of Khafji broke out on January 29. Saddam's forces attacked the lightly-defended town but soon came under intense air attacks, followed by battleship Wisconsin and other naval warships, as well as the US Marines and the Saudi National Guard. The Americans lost an AC-130 gunship in this fight to an Iraqi SAM, but the attack was an overwhelming win for the Allies. The ground phase of Operation Desert Storm began on February 24, 1991, and involved a huge ground assault into Western Kuwait, with the goal of encircling the Iraqis. This was only partially successful, but it did result in a massive number of Iraqi casualties. The effect of anti-tank missiles was shown blankly when an Iraqi tank battalion blundered into a Canadian anti-tank company on the right flank of a British armored division during the second day of the ground war. The Canadians called for air support and got it, but their TOW missiles themselves took down over half the battalion with only four vehicles lost on their side. The Iraqis were able to inflict some casualties against the Allies, but the losses were enormous, and Saddam ordered them out on February 27, 1991. They took just 36 Hours to get out, but the losses were massive in the process. Allied forces chased the Iraqis as far north as as Kerbala before withdrawing back to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Operation Desert Storm was a massive display of American power at a time when the Soviet Union was collapsing and China had turned inward, and had a major psychological effect for many of the nations involved. The Iranians had long held the view that America and the West were good partners to have and Desert Storm gave them plenty of graphic evidence of how true this was. The allies involved performed as well as could be expected and in many cases better, and the Israeli-Jordanian-Palestinian 'West Front' attacks on Iraq in the final month of the war had a major effect on the Israelis and many Arabs as well. The Palestinians, equipped after the Ottawa Treaty with older F-4E and A-7E fighters, managed nonetheless to do substantial damage to the Iraqis and their pilots claimed four Iraqi air-to-air kills. The commander of the Israeli Air Force, General Avihu Ben-Nun, commented of the Arabs "They came to fly against Iraq with us and did as well as any force could under the conditions they had....they attacked Iraqi bases, shot down Iraqi planes and fired on Iraqi missile launchers that could have otherwise threatened us. They said that they could do this, and they did it. They should be proud of themselves. They have earned it." Operation Desert Storm was also noticed very clearly in China, which it was said at that point was still considering a military solution to the problems with Hong Kong and their difficulties with Taiwan, but they decided against it after the massive war in the Middle East.

The world may have had to learn what American power looked like in Operation Desert Storm, but in other ways there was little to be learned. A decision by then-Fed Chairman Paul Volcker in 1985 to attempt to slowly reduce the value of the US Dollar against the Japanese Yen and West German Deutschemark resulted in both a major growth in America's exports, but both nations responded to the growth in the value of their currencies with massive expansions, in the case of Japan to the point that the Bank of Japan had to begin trying to tamp down the asset price bubble in Japan by late 1987. This was only partially successful, but Japan's asset price bubble grew to such a degree that Japanese firms and individuals spent the second half of the 1980s buying massive amounts of pretty much everything around the world, with one joke being that by 1989 that the Mayor of Los Angeles might as well raise the Japanese flag over City Hall, people from Tokyo and Osaka had bought so much of Los Angeles. But as the asset price bubble collapsed in 1989, Japanese companies and corporations were so in deep with properties and operations abroad that selling them off was not really much of an option. The result is that many Japanese conglomerates expanded their international operations by vast amounts in the 1990s, attempting to allow what would otherwise be considerable losses to be turned into assets for the company. In prospering America, this turned into a major boom for some of them. Sony's work with Atari and Toshiba partnering with RCA on manufacturing of the latter's revolutionary plasma display televisions in 1990 was just the tip of the iceberg. Kawasaki Heavy Industries scored three massive coups in 1991 by selling 16 massive EF600AR two-unit diesel locomotives to the Denver and Rio Grande Western railroad, followed by a partnership with Chrysler-Alco to make trainsets for the Acela Express in the Northeastern United States and then by offering its newly-completed Kawasaki C-2 military plane design for partnerships (Japan was still prohibited from selling military equipment at the time), and promptly having a deal signed between KHI and Canada's Bombardier, which saw twenty-two C-2s ordered by the Royal Canadian Air Force to manufacturer by Bombardier under license. Japan's investments in America quickly became less prestige items and more business investments, as Japan spent the 1990s fighting to recover its lost economic momentum after the asset bubble burst.

Germany was faced with much less of an asset price bubble, but in 1990 it had the massive problem of paying the bills for German reunification, and it faced a significant problem in that many of Germany's neighbors, including Britain, France and Italy, were less than keen of a rapid German unification, fearing a rise in the nationalism that had been the cause of two World Wars, the former two being a significant barrier. The Soviet Union agreed to allow the unification with few conditions, but Germany regardless of this renounced weapons of mass destruction and accept the Oder-Neisse line as Germany's eastern border. Kennedy's only condition of note was that Germany remain part of NATO, a point that German Chancellor Helmut Kohl agreed to, even though he was well aware of the fact that German support of NATO was barely 25% (though that number grew substantially after Operation Desert Storm). All of the victorious WWII powers ratified the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany in the summer and fall of 1990, paving the way for the reunification to become law on October 3, 1990. The unified Germany substantially reduced the size of its armed forces. Aware of Kohl's support of Solidarity in the 1980s, one of the first nations to recognize Germany's unification was Poland, and one of Germany's first actions as a unified nation was to propose that Israel and Palestine be made members of NATO, much to the surprise of Yitzhak Shamir, the Israeli Prime Minister, and saying "Germany's past is not exactly an example of peace and kindness, and we accept that. No man on this Earth should fear us, and we invite any man who does fear us to speak to us, to let us know his concerns, so that we can make sure that all of the men of our home planet can be clear on our position. Germany will never again make war on another, and we seek to make it so that the divided world that was a fact of all of our lives never rises again."

The cost of reunification was not small, but was paid by Germany in any case, and the withdrawal of all troops from all sides from Germany, completed by Britain and France in 1992 and the USA, Russia and Canada in 1993, was a major cost reduction for many nations and the reduction of Germany's armed forces caused something of a high-tech economic boom in the 1990s as many Germans engaged in military fields instead went into higher-tech industrial fields. Indeed the largest place that changed in Germany was Berlin itself, which was transformed into a very modern western metropolis in the 1990s and 2000s with vast construction projects and the connection of the city to the rail networks of West and East Germany.

It was a new world, and the collapse of the USSR into first civil war and then nearly twenty individual nations, ranging from massive Russia to tiny ones like Abkhazia and Armenia, made sure that the symmetry that had once existed between the West and East fell apart. America, standing proud with a booming economy, a stable political system, improving social conditions and the ability to direct vast diplomatic, cultural, economic, financial and military power to nearly anywhere on Earth, and possessing of alliances that spread to virtually all corners of the globe, was very much seen as the world's "Hyperpower", able to largely shape the world to its liking. As true as this was, most of America's senior government officials made it clear that they had little interest in trying to reshape the world in their image, just improve it for America, its people and its allies.....

OOC: I removed the part about Rutskoy asking for American help. It was a bit of an unrealistic point upon further review.
 
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Yowza! Gorby and Yeltsin both martyred! Hundreds of thousands dead post-Soviet civil war? :eek::eek::eek:

I mean sure, ITTL the civil war MIGHT mean anything authoritarian gets an askance look for a decade or three-plus, but I'd like to solicit RGB or other Russians or Russia experts to disprove the meme that Russians will put up with an oppressive regime if it offers safety.
Think about Putin and what he offers now OTL after the chaos and weakness of the 1990's!

I simply cannot imagine an immediately post-Soviet Russian leader soliciting American aid against fellow Russians. Really. I don't care if he's the most democratic, pro-Western dissident fresh out of a twenty-year stretch in Magadan with American flags tattoed on his pecs.
He's not soliciting American help to slaughter Russians. They'll clean house internally for a decade until they're down to old men, boys and maybe a goat before they invite foreigners on their soil.

IMO the scars of WWII run too deep where so many Soviet POW's and locals in Ukraine and elsewhere volunteered to help the invaders to defeat Stalin and his regime.

YMMDV but that's my take.


Tiananamen a bloodbath that kyboshed US-China economic-axis?

THAT's a ton more plausible. Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't it tough to get PLA units that WOULD shoot protesters?

IF some Beijing-based units decide NOT to obey those orders, or even worse, and move on the Go An Bu secuirty forces sorta like Fall of Ceaucescu IOTL, it could get ugly .

Overall, it's set the two Communist superpowers on a self-devouring path of destruction as the US and the rest of the world hope to help 'em pick up the pieces.

Possible but wow, some ugly, ugly stuff, but history's full of tensions unwinding in some ghastly bloodbaths.
 
On the last part, I find it interesting as it shows, while the TL is an over all improvement to OTL, it isn't always going to be roses.

Now, for what happens with Russia... I won't comment, but honestly, I really feel like our local Soviet Union/Russia experts really need to take a look at it. Granted, perhaps PODs could do some cultural changes?
 
Sounds like a very confused world. I think it could derail the "end of history" consensus, for one thing.

Overall I like the approach of TTL: you've got some ideas you want to play with, so you let much of OTL stay as it was.

I'm trying to imagine the circumstances of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, though, given the divergences of TTL. He's got a huge pro-western state to the east- meaning, among other things, no Iran-Iraq war, or possibly just a very short, abortive attempt, followed by the US putting a stop to it. With the US maintaining a clear ally in Iran, Saddam's never going to have the kind of signaling he got IOTL that made him think he had some leeway to invade his neighbors.

You could always just go with the, "he's crazy," card, but I just wonder why/how it took so long for him to invade a country, if Iran didn't happen.

Also curious about a few other things from this period, if you don't mind my asking: Yugoslavia; Apartheid ending with Jackson in the executive; the rise of right-wing domestic terrorism in the US. And an update on race relations would be interesting. Butterflies from a stronger, earlier civil rights movement, and less 1960s racial violence must be really fluttering now. Did red-lining last as long, and was it always as widespread? Are there more integrated communities? With no Rodney King riots and other violent signifiers of the period, what's the racial conversation like?

Sorry for so many questions, I'm really enjoying this!
 
Glad to see the PRC does not have MFN.
Sad to see the USSR break up so violently. Glad that it appears Abkhazia is now a recognized nation.
I do think there would be more right-wing terror in the USA. Even REAGAN had to deal with The Order and the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord.
 
Holy crap! Who was in the Gang of Ten, and who are some of the leaders that took over after the Soviet Civil War? I'm sure you'll get back to US politics and we'll find out who won the 1992 election.
 
Yowza! Gorby and Yeltsin both martyred! Hundreds of thousands dead post-Soviet civil war? :eek::eek::eek:

Yep. I wanted to get rid of Yeltsin (he was a useless prick after about 1993, and the country went to shit underneath him) and Gorbachev's legacy this way will be much less hated by Russians.

I mean sure, ITTL the civil war MIGHT mean anything authoritarian gets an askance look for a decade or three-plus, but I'd like to solicit RGB or other Russians or Russia experts to disprove the meme that Russians will put up with an oppressive regime if it offers safety.
Think about Putin and what he offers now OTL after the chaos and weakness of the 1990's!

Putin (and several of the key OTL players who will also be key ITTL players) lived through the war, and they have seen what the lust for power of the likes of Yanayev and Kryuchkov and Yazov has done, and you will also see some of the usual pains in the ass (Read: Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov) and some of the usual guys who played the game behind the scenes (Read: Rutskoy, Lebed and Yavlinsky) in modern Russia. It will be a democratic state, and a very, very different one to OTL. The civil war has landed some big scars on the Russian psyche, and that's gonna change how the nation is governed and what it does with its existing power.

I simply cannot imagine an immediately post-Soviet Russian leader soliciting American aid against fellow Russians. Really. I don't care if he's the most democratic, pro-Western dissident fresh out of a twenty-year stretch in Magadan with American flags tattoed on his pecs.
He's not soliciting American help to slaughter Russians. They'll clean house internally for a decade until they're down to old men, boys and maybe a goat before they invite foreigners on their soil.

IMO the scars of WWII run too deep where so many Soviet POW's and locals in Ukraine and elsewhere volunteered to help the invaders to defeat Stalin and his regime.

YMMDV but that's my take.

Upon further reflection, I took that part out. There will still be big intelligence operations to find and secure nuclear weapons and make sure that they don't get used by the various parties.

Tiananamen a bloodbath that kyboshed US-China economic-axis?

THAT's a ton more plausible. Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't it tough to get PLA units that WOULD shoot protesters?

IF some Beijing-based units decide NOT to obey those orders, or even worse, and move on the Go An Bu secuirty forces sorta like Fall of Ceaucescu IOTL, it could get ugly .

Overall, it's set the two Communist superpowers on a self-devouring path of destruction as the US and the rest of the world hope to help 'em pick up the pieces.

Possible but wow, some ugly, ugly stuff, but history's full of tensions unwinding in some ghastly bloodbaths.

In TTL's Tiananmen Square, the students became pawns to an internal power struggle that ended in the hardliners being victorious and then deciding to take down the protesters by force. IOTL, some armed forces units were much more trigger happy than others, I just increased the number of those units here. China's turn inward isn't gonna last long, as the Soviet Union's implosion and the collapse of North Korea (next chapter ;)) is gonna coincide with many of the old hardliners dying away and the next leaders restarting the opening process, but by the time China is back to being really open to the West their chance to be an economic superpower like OTL will be gone, and what would have gone to China will have landed in the other developing Asian nations - India, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia.

The bloodbaths are effectively over now. Yugoslavia is gonna be a lot less ugly than OTL, Cuba will eventually change (peacefully) and Latin America is gonna have a very fine 1990s and 2000s, as will southern Africa. The Middle East is gonna recover from Saddam, though the Saudis are gonna be a pain in the ass for a while (But after 9/11, look out....), especially after this war when they tool up to make sure they never get caught out again as they were in 1990-91 with Saddam. It's a very different world out there, and its gonna change further....
 
Haven't got all the way through post 72, yet, but I believe you made an error on Hong Kong citizenship.

IIRC, they ALREADY had British citizenship - but about that time, the UK introduced a new classification of 'citizenship without rights of residence'. I.e. they wanted their colonials to have the protection of British citizenship in, e.g. France, but not allow them to come to Britain.

This was a tremendously controversial decision at the time, and France (IIRC) basically refused to accept these 'citizens' as real citizens of Britain, since, after all, the UK refused to.

If they hadn't made that change, 100s of thousands of Hong Kongers would have fled to the UK, iOTL.
 
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