Spain and Russia under a personal union
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When? Who? Which capital do they rule from?
Sorry, but there isn't enough data to compute.
Sorry, but there isn't enough data to compute.
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Not happening. You could probably pull off some whacky hijinx in the 18th cnetury, but at this point Spain is a Most Catholic Monarchy and Russia is a Most Orthodox Monarchy.
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They unite against a protestant-wank?
That would requires a stridently Protestant Poland. Ivan the Terrible declared himself Tsar of all the Russias, which implied a desire to recover all the Orthodox east Slav lands that Poland and Lithuania had accrued since the Mongol invasions. Naturally the Russians weren't too keen on the efforts of the Poles to impose Uniate Catholicism on the population there, which led to a pretty direct Catholic-Orthodox antagonism lasting until Peter the Great throughly divorced religion from policy, a situation which lasted until about Nicholas I (who not incidentally abolished the Uniate church in Russia).
So if not only Sweden but also Poland and, for good measure, the Crimean Khanate and Ottoman Empire are protestant, maybe...
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As difficult (and perhaps even borderline-ASBish) as this sounds, I still think the OP deserves credit: this it probably one of the more original ideas I've ever heard on this board, probably because nobody's tried it due to all of the reasons listed by IBC!
So, again, kudos for originality, mimeyo!
So, again, kudos for originality, mimeyo!
unlikely, very very unlikely, for one thing they're both major powers nether would dig being the junior partner in a crown union (having the King living in the other nation) they're far apart making it hard for the King to do his duty in both nations, religion is maybe the biggest issue, the Spanish Monarchs are the "Most Catholic Monarchs" Russia has even more of an issue because the Tsar had a major role in the Russian Orthodox Church.
the only way I see it happen is a Napoleonic thing, Napoleon makes Joseph Tsar in 1812 as well King of Spain.
the only way I see it happen is a Napoleonic thing, Napoleon makes Joseph Tsar in 1812 as well King of Spain.
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Nah, I'd say that Napoleon a) winning and b) deposing his man-buddy Alexander is less likley than some sort of extremely wierd 18th century dynastic switcheroo when the Orthodoxy of rulers like Catherine was pretty nominal. Still extremely unlikley, though.
Well, he didn't say it had to monarchical personal union. We can have a socialist internationalism wank, and have somebody as the chairperson of union of European Soviets which includes both Spain and Russia, along with all other communist states. Yeah, not too far-fetched if the "Chairperson of Europe" is symbolic and powerless position comparable to the secretary-general of the UN.
I didn't say the union would last, just saying it's the only union I see, any ways the Russians didn't tend to marry major powers, and as far as I can see, a royal never married Catholic.