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[WotanArgead]

and yeah, shes zoroastrian.

Cute. At least freed from the Abraamistic captivity (In Yezidism, there is much from Islam and Christianity).

 

[Bulldoggus]

AH.com Visit To Cuba

RedDevilDog- I went to that region, back when Kurdistan and Turkey co-hosted the World Cup in 2006. Friends got the tickets as a celebration, our tour in the army had just ended. Awful trip. It was hot, the local police treated tourists from the Free World like animals, the England/Poland Group Match in Izmir came dangerously close to being another Loftus Road*, and we had to watch that fucking Yank ref blatantly rig our quarterfinal against Turkey. Your friend seems pretty nice though.

*Think Hillsborough.

 

[Bulldoggus]

World Cup 2006- Turkey/Kurdistan
"An ugly, vile, cynical, pointless, politicized, depressing spectacle of violence, depravity, corruption, and everything ugly about the beautiful game. From the languid opener from the brutal final, every single match managed to be a dull, perfunctory, anticlimactic, nasty affair."
-Worst Tournament Ever!- George Will

GROUP 1
Turkey 2-1 Hungary
Hungary 3-0 Uruguay
Turkey 0-0 Uruguay
(Turkey and Hungary Advance)

GROUP 2
Kurdistan 1-7 France
France 2-1 Japan
Japan 1-0 Kurdistan
(France and Japan Advance)

GROUP 3
Mexico 1-1 West Germany
West Germany 0-0 Yugoslavia
Yugoslavia 1-0 Mexico
(West Germany and Yugoslavia advance)

GROUP 4
Poland 2-0 Egypt
England 3-0 Egypt
England 0-0 Poland
(England and Poland Advance)

GROUP 5
Brazil 2-1 USSR
Netherlands 1-0 Brazil
USSR 0-0 Netherlands
(Brazil and Netherlands advance)

GROUP 6
Chile 0-0 Scotland
Scotland 0-3 North Italy
North Italy 4-0 Chile
(North Italy and Scotland advance)

GROUP 7
South Africa 2-3 UASR
USA (Cuba) 0-0 UASR (game delayed 3 times due to fan riots)
USA (Cuba) 1-1 South Africa
(UASR and USA (Cuba) advance)

GROUP 8
Denmark 0-2 India
Denmark 1-1 East Germany
East Germany 0-0 India
(East Germany and India Advance

Round of 16
Turkey 1-0 Japan
England 2-1 West Germany
Netherlands 1-2 Scotland
UASR 1-0 East Germany
USA (Cuba) 1-0 India
North Italy 2-1 Brazil
Yugoslavia 2-1 Poland
France 3-0 Hungary

Quarterfinals
Turkey 4-3 England
Scotland 1-0 UASR
USA (Cuba) 1-3 North Italy
Yugoslavia 2-1 France

Semifinals
Turkey 1-0 Scotland
North Italy 4-2 Yugoslavia

Final
North Italy 7-1 Turkey

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

AH.com Visit to Cuba

an Englishman saying he doesnt like the heat? not surprising. I have heard the militia in Kurdistan are bastards though.

yah thw workers militia in kurdistan are notorious for treating AFS citizens badly. It's a common discussion within the PKK's Central Committee.

 

[Bulldoggus]

AH.com Visit to Cuba

That entire World Cup was a bloody disgrace. They say that you can tell a lot about a World Cup from the first and last famous images, and that one fits, what with the first image being Sukur not getting booked for practically breaking Vanczak's leg and the last being those bloody Italians packed in dangerously tight in Istanbul and raising a banner with Mussolini on it after their boys had run up the score against the Turks. There wasn't a single good moment in that tournament, and of the three moments of my life when I thought I would die, two were at that godawful thing. One being packed in those fucking overstuffed terraces against Poland, the other was when me and my friends decided to go to USA-Cuba and give the free world some support from the Ultras section. There's a reason they refused to hold another in the Comintern for decades, and when threatened by a commie walkout, finally let the 2026 one be held in Canada.

 

[Miss Teri]

AH.com Visit to Cuba

Okay, now that I'm out of another presentation, I explored the Salvation Hall. It was okay. It had some nice exhibitions. Large portraits of the Presidents from Washington to McCain. A large Collection of pre-Revolution memorabilia, a long hall detailing the history of Cuba, with some artifacts, some antique military equipment ( I recognized some WW2 era tanks and planes there) It was massive.

 

[Bulldoggus]

AH.com Visit to Cuba

So, some Yank at the embassy is in a snit that I'm going to Cuba after I go to the wedding. This asshole raged on, threatened to yank my visa, and then handed me a brochure to visit Florida. No subtlety. Why are you people (present company excepted) so uptight about people going to Cuba? It is absurdity.

 

[Miss Teri]

Oh, at the presentation, I was talking to a Brazilian engineer, and he was telling me that he was there to give a presentation for those working on creating a Cuban space program.

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

AH.com Visit to Cuba

I dunno why we even care about Cuba. Shoot me into space, for all I care.

Otherwise, I here Peshmerga is touring in Cuba right now, and it will be back in June. I know Metal isn't as popular in the AFS nowadays compared to the Comintern, but, you know, rock on, right? "Shock Troopers", the song about the Marines, is my jam.

Also, a Cuban space program? What are they gonna send to Mars, cocaine?

Bah! Those Kurdish Thrashers may be talented musicians, but they are not wholesome. There is no faith in their music, only glorification of war and soldiers. I'll take good old fashioned swing, thanks very much. Makes me sick that the Congress let them play here.

Mate, I know you're a Yuma, so you've been on a god-infused pedestal since birth, but you're nae gonna make many friends talking shit about the Metallica of the Middle East.

 

[Miss Teri]

AH.com Visit to Cuba

He said that he was telling them mostly about how to launch satellites by themselves, and how to build rockets. (Most Cuban satellites mainly hitch their rides aboard Ariane and Black Prince rockets.) I think they have some ESA engineers here as well to also give presentations.

My friend tells me it's mostly planning at this point. They need a launcher like ESA does.

 

[xie323]

I wonder how Highland Jack would end TTL...........since the concept of alternate timelines is implied to exist here, but not in it's OTL conterpart.

 

[Miss Teri]

Scarface
Scarface: The Life and Death of Al Capone is a 1966 American biographical crime-thriller drama, centering on the career of notorious mobster and bank robber Alphonse "Scarface" Capone. The film stars Robert De Niro and Jason Robards in the role as Scarface (De Niro as Scarface in young age, Robards in older age), in a film produced by Roger Corman, and directed by Bob Mueller*.

The film looks at Capone's life, starting with the incident which gave him the name "Scarface" (an insult to a woman resulting in that woman's brother slashing him). His move to Chicago, and his rise to become the Chicago Outfit's lead enforcer for Johnny Torrio and Chicago's most notorious bank robber are shown in detail. His battles with the Chicago police and his most famous robberies are shown, as is the Chicago Outfit's attack on socialist organized strikers during the depression, and the 1929 St. Valentine's Massacre, both of which Capone lead as enforcer. Despite the notoriety of his crimes, the Chicago Mafia 's ties with the corrupt Chicago local government allows him to allude capture and accumulate his wealth. During the revolution, he becomes an "ambassador" of sorts between the Sons of Liberty and the Chicago Outfit, giving them logistical support, money, and arms, in exchange for protection and recognition as "true patriots", when the "constitutional government" is restored. He stages a robbery of the Red held Springfield Bank with some of the Sons. That promise of constitutional restoration fails to materialize, with the retreat from the mainland. The Chicago Outfit is destroyed after the Revolution, with J. Edgar Hoover's Secretariat of Public Safety leading a systematic campaign of infiltration and liquidation. Torrio is killed by SecPubSafe agents, and both the Southside gang and their Irish rivals in the Northside are completely annihilated. Capone subsequently leads the remnants of the Outfit, now mostly dedicated to bank robbing to fund their criminal activities, and helping the Sons of Liberty with their activities against the government. The film ends with his 1935 robbery of the Chicago Commune Bank, and his death at the hands of Chicago police.

The film soon became subject of national debate, due to its alleged glorification of Capone and its excessive violence. While older critics, like Browsley Crowthers, criticized the film for these qualities, a new generation of critics, like Roger Ebert and Pauline Kael, praised the film as a vindication of socialist ideal, with Capone shown as a violent thug and hustler, despite his opulent and exciting lifestyle. The debate over the film is sometimes cited as a divide between old and new film criticisn The violence was shown as a vital part of the film's atmosphere, and was the main part of its appeal to the younger generation ( which is an extention of Roger Corman's guerrilla approach to filmmaking). It would be considered one of the first films of the "American New Wave", which rejected the ideological nature of the Golden Age of American film, and took advantage of the dying Eisenstein Code, to give more brutal films exploring previously taboo topics. The Library of Congress chose the film to preserve for its "value to the art of filmmaking and the history of films."

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

Scarface
Scarface: The Life and Death of Al Capone is a 1966 American biographical crime-thriller drama, centering on the career of notorious mobster and bank robber Alphonse "Scarface" Capone. The film stars Robert De Niro and Jason Robards in the role as Scarface (De Niro as Scarface in young age, Robards in older age), in a film produced by Roger Corman, and directed by Bob Mueller*.

The film looks at Capone's life, starting with the incident which gave him the name "Scarface" (an insult to a woman resulting in that woman's brother slashing him). His move to Chicago, and his rise to become the Chicago Outfit's lead enforcer for Johnny Torrio and Chicago's most notorious bank robber are shown in detail. His battles with the Chicago police and his most famous robberies are shown, as is the Chicago Outfit's attack on socialist organized strikers during the depression, and the 1929 St. Valentine's Massacre, both of which Capone lead as enforcer. Despite the notoriety of his crimes, the Chicago Mafia 's ties with the corrupt Chicago local government allows him to allude capture and accumulate his wealth. During the revolution, he becomes an "ambassador" of sorts between the Sons of Liberty and the Chicago Outfit, giving them logistical support, money, and arms, in exchange for protection and recognition as "true patriots", when the "constitutional government" is restored. He stages a robbery of the Red held Springfield Bank with some of the Sons. That promise of constitutional restoration fails to materialize, with the retreat from the mainland. The Chicago Outfit is destroyed after the Revolution, with J. Edgar Hoover's Secretariat of Public Safety leading a systematic campaign of infiltration and liquidation. Torrio is killed by SecPubSafe agents, and both the Southside gang and their Irish rivals in the Northside are completely annihilated. Capone subsequently leads the remnants of the Outfit, now mostly dedicated to bank robbing to fund their criminal activities, and helping the Sons of Liberty with their activities against the government. The film ends with his 1935 robbery of the Chicago Commune Bank, and his death at the hands of Chicago police.

The film soon became subject of national debate, due to its alleged glorification of Capone and its excessive violence. While older critics, like Browsley Crowthers, criticized the film for these qualities, a new generation of critics, like Roger Ebert and Pauline Kael, praised the film as a vindication of socialist ideal, with Capone shown as a violent thug and hustler, despite his opulent and exciting lifestyle. The debate over the film is sometimes cited as a divide between old and new film criticisn The violence was shown as a vital part of the film's atmosphere, and was the main part of its appeal to the younger generation ( which is an extention of Roger Corman's guerrilla approach to filmmaking). It would be considered one of the first films of the "American New Wave", which rejected the ideological nature of the Golden Age of American film, and took advantage of the dying Eisenstein Code, to give more brutal films exploring previously taboo topics. The Library of Congress chose the film to preserve for its "value to the art of filmmaking and the history of films."

good job! I could see the death of the eisenstein code paving the way for directors like Sam Peckinpah.

and i just realized that Cross of Iron wont get made. goddammit, i love that movie.

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

You know, I was thinking about transformers and how it could fit into the Redsverse, and I think that ITTL the Autobots might be the bad guys and the Decepticons might be good.

Especially if transformers uses the IDW Canon where the Decepticons are Lower Class workers with Megatron as a sort of Spartacus figure while Prime and his boys are basically Counterrevolutionaries.

I don't think they'd be Saturday morning supervillain outside of the original cartoons though. They might be portrayed as a mix of fascists and monarchists while Prime might be more akin to a Reformist a la the German SPD, while the Decepticons would be a mix of the rank and file soldiers and the working classes.

Also the Decepticons might be Red and Black while the Autobots are Blue and White in color.

 

[Miss Teri]

You know, I was thinking about transformers and how it could fit into the Redsverse, and I think that ITTL the Autobots might be the bad guys and the Decepticons might be good.

Especially if transformers uses the IDW Canon where the Decepticons are Lower Class workers with Megatron as a sort of Spartacus figure while Prime and his boys are basically Counterrevolutionaries.

I don't think they'd be Saturday morning supervillain outside of the original cartoons though. They might be portrayed as a mix of fascists and monarchists while Prime might be more akin to a Reformist a la the German SPD, while the Decepticons would be a mix of the rank and file soldiers and the working classes.

Also the Decepticons might be Red and Black while the Autobots are Blue and White in color.

Here's what Red Star said on the topic:

Transformers: Went with the current aligned continuity approach much earlier, Optimus Prime is notably black and red this time instead of red and blue. Cybertronian society was in a state of gradual decay even as it expanded across the galaxies and continuously expanded its empire. Recognizing that Cybertronian society was full of injustice and unfairness in favour of an established elite; two forces arise. At one end is the fascist reaction of Megatron and the Decepticons, the other the socialist revolution of Optimus Prime and the Autobots.

The cybertronian establishment, represented by Nova Prime; attempts to soothe the pains of Cybertronian society, but Megatron tries launching his coup by force when Optimus Prime's faction seems set to win an electoral victory in the cybetronian senate. What follows is millions of years of brutal civil war between the heroic Autobots, who frequently find themselves having to defend third parties from the brutal regime of Megatron. Still very much black and white, but the first cartoons are much less patronizing towards child audiences and take a more mature approach to warfare. Megatron is explicitly robot Hitler with a vehement hatred of organic life.

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

Here's what Red Star said on the topic:

Sounds boring, but sure, whatever.

I don't like the portrayal of Megatron as "Literally Hitler" because he's a bit more interesting than that/it was just because he started out as a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

Also, it would honestly make more sense if Prime was a "bad guy" as he's representing the system that exists, albeit he wants to reform it. Megatron OTL started out as a sort of Spartacus that turned into a meglomaniacal Robespierre.

All in all, I think we could have made that into something a lot more interesting than what RSR wrote, but at least it's more mature than OTL.

 

[Miss Teri]

Sounds boring, but sure, whatever.

Honestly, just reverse the names, and these ideas could co-exist.

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

Honestly, just reverse the names, and these ideas could co-exist.

Could I ask what you mean by that?

 

[Miss Teri]

Could I ask what you mean by that?

Just have the Autobots as the oppressed underclass under the lead of revolutionary Optimus Prime, who win an election, and the Decepticons are a coalition of fascists and monarchists, with Megatron initially as a moderate who gradually becomes more and more tyrannical.

 

[Redshank Galloglass]

Just have the Autobots as the oppressed underclass under the lead of revolutionary nOptimus Prime, who win an election, and the Decepticons are a coalition of fascists and monarchists, with Megatron initially as a moderate who gradually becomes more and more tyrannical.

Sounds kinda cut and paste. Not trying to be brash, but there's a more interesting side we could take with this.

What I'm getting at is that OTL, once G1 Transformers started fleshing out the politics of Cybertronian society, the two factions started out as radically different: the Decepticons were comprised of the lower classes of Cybertronian society, such as the rank and file soldiers and working classes, while the Autobots were simply the current Cybertronian imperial government. Megatron originally started out as a gladiator turned revolutionary leader, even having the support of Prime, but he grew corrupt and tyrannical, hence prime forming another "Autobot" faction, which is comprised of status quo monarchists (the title of prime is basically an emperor, but translates to a leader position much like Nazi Germany's fuhrers) and reformists like the German SPD. it's quite literally a Monarchy, and if you think about it, "Till All Are One" is incredibly similar to "Gott Mit Uns".

Assuming a similar continuity, the Decepticons would most likely be the good guys, since they comprise the lower echelons of Cybertronian society from the rank and file soldiers (Combaticons) to the laborers (Constructicons). Megatron would be more like his original Spartacus persona, probably more pragmatic than OTL Optimus Prime and quite a bit more ruthless because of his militant past, but he would likely be well intentioned and charismatic. Prime would be the "bad" guy, but he wouldn't be "bad" by our standards, as he legitimately wants to reform the system which has caused the conflict. However, he would see the current status quo for Cybertronian society as legitimate and wants to preserve it, which makes Prime the unwitting continuer of the cycle.

The characters could fit this setting to a tee. Starscream could be the brilliant academic turned revolutionary a la Trotsky. Onslaught could be the veteran soldier turned Revolutionary General. Soundwave could be the ruthless enforcer behind Megatron's Revolutionary Charisma. Brawl could be the fanatical Shock Trooper. Shockwave could be the scientist and economist behind the Decepticons revolution For the Autobots, Bumblebee could be the idealistic, naive youngster that was called to serve the current order by appealing to youthful nationalism. Ironhide could be a working class Counter-Revolutionary veteran and Monarchist hardliner. Prowl could be a brutal and coldly logical police commissioner. Ratchet could be the token psycho in the form of a Dr. Mengele expy. Cliffjumper could be a sociopathic mercenary driven by the rush of combat. Grimlock could be the leader of a brutal monarchist secret police force, etc. I'm sure you get my point.

All in all, I think this could be an interesting and far more mature Transformers than OTL if this formula is used.