Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

Thought y'all would be interested, I made a Q-Bam of this proposal. It's not the most up to date Q-Bam but it works, also I recently found this and its related to this, it's basically a highly detailed map of Jefferson's Metropotamia: https://somethingaboutmaps.wordpress.com/2016/10/10/metropotamia/

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"What state do you live in?"

"The square one"

"You're going to have to be a bit more specific"

"The, uh, second one from the top"

"Is that the one west of Virginia or west of North Carolina"

"To be honest I kind of forgot"
 

The name "Alexandra Land" was given to part of the Northern Territory after it was transferred from New South Wales to South Australia in 1863.
The land was named after Alexandra of Denmark, the new wife of the then-future King Edward VII, who had married that same year.

Apparently they hoped that it would be as economically prosperous as Queensland for sugar, tobacco, cotton, and coffee.

It wasn't.
 
I've seen this image a couple times around the internet, and I decided to make it into a worlda map:r/MapPorn - A 1963 prediction of Africa at the beginning of the 21st century
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Note that Spanish Guinea is coloured as a colonial possession (even if it doesn't have a thick border), and I included the Cabinda Exclave with Angola, since it didn't appear in the map.
 
I've seen this image a couple times around the internet, and I decided to make it into a worlda map:r/MapPorn - A 1963 prediction of Africa at the beginning of the 21st century
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Note that Spanish Guinea is coloured as a colonial possession (even if it doesn't have a thick border), and I included the Cabinda Exclave with Angola, since it didn't appear in the map.

Interestingly enough if all of the members of ECOWAS were to join OHADA then that would roughly correspond to the United States of Africa featured on that map. Now if the non-CFA Franc members of ECOWAS adopted the West African CFA Franc/Eco and the Eco kept the same exchange rate as the Central African CFA Franc and the currencies were made fully convertible, this would cement the similarity as it would for the entirety of that area there would in essence be one business law, one currency and two (imperfect) free movement zones.
 
I've seen this image a couple times around the internet, and I decided to make it into a worlda map:r/MapPorn - A 1963 prediction of Africa at the beginning of the 21st century
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Note that Spanish Guinea is coloured as a colonial possession (even if it doesn't have a thick border), and I included the Cabinda Exclave with Angola, since it didn't appear in the map.
now i totally want to see something about a United States of Africa and a unified Commonwealth of Africa (maybe expanding the latter a bit more) in some kind of conflict, maybe a cold war, with the rest of the continent caught in the middle
 
I’m assuming they never actually saw what the landscape of Alexandra Land was like.
I suspect their thinking went like "it's the same latitude as Queensland, so it must be the same".

The territory had only been lightly explored by Europeans at that point in history, with the first full crossing from Adelaide, South Australia to Van Diemen Gulf on the coast of the Northern Territory only being completed in 1862. Which is probably why all of the features in Alexandra Land form a wiggly sort-of line.
 
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During the construction of Interstate 40 in California, the Santa Fe Railway Company wanted to find a way to cut through the Bristol Mountains, as this would prevent the highway from having to swerve around them like the Santa Fe Railway and Route 66 did. That would, however, involve cutting through 4,000 feet of rock, which would've necessitated either a huge tunnel or 500-foot-deep cuts in the mountains, costing around $22 million . Far too expensive for the company.

This attracted the attention of the Atomic Energy Commission, who offered their own plan, called Project Carryall. This would've involved the use of 23 nuclear weapons, 22 to hollow out the path and the 1 for the runoff water, excavating a total of 68,000,000 cubic yards of land. All of this would cost only $13.8 million.

Of course, as with all of Operation Plowshare's proposals, none of them panned out. Carryall was scrapped in 1968 and Interstate 40 was instead carved out using conventional means.
 
This attracted the attention of the Atomic Energy Commission, who offered their own plan, called Project Carryall. This would've involved the use of 23 nuclear weapons, 22 to hollow out the path and the 1 for the runoff water, excavating a total of 68,000,000 cubic yards of land. All of this would cost only $13.8 million.
I suspect that the true cost would have been much higher as history proves that humanity consistently underestimates the level of danger regarding fallout, so it could turn into an EPA superfund site for the levels of decontamination that would be required.
 
As seen on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/in16wy
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To quote the redditor fatyoshi48 who posted the map over there:
So, this map was brought up in the satirical Dutch show ‘Zondag met Lubach’ (Sunday with Lubach, the presentor) while discussing the current problems with regarding the Belgian government. As Flanders doesn’t want to belong to another nation, and Wallonia wanted to belong to someone, he satirically proposed this.
Okay, it was a satire show and as such the proposal is not meant serious, but nevertheless it still is a proposal...
 
I suspect that the true cost would have been much higher as history proves that humanity consistently underestimates the level of danger regarding fallout, so it could turn into an EPA superfund site for the levels of decontamination that would be required.
Oh yeah, definitely. And especially because they planned to use 50 kiloton bombs, which have more overall fallout. 23 of them in the Mojave Desert? Nobody's using that road anytime soon.
 
I have a question and would be greatful if anybody can help, does anybody know if Austria-Hungary had any territorial claim against Italy in the First World War?
I know that Austria-Hungary saw Italy as a traitor because although they were techically allied to Germany and Austria, they first declared themselves neutral and then attacked Austria.
Would they just let them go unpunished if they had won the war? I never saw any references to any territorial claims about this
 
I have a question and would be greatful if anybody can help, does anybody know if Austria-Hungary had any territorial claim against Italy in the First World War?
I know that Austria-Hungary saw Italy as a traitor because although they were techically allied to Germany and Austria, they first declared themselves neutral and then attacked Austria.
Would they just let them go unpunished if they had won the war? I never saw any references to any territorial claims about this
https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/war_aims_and_war_aims_discussions_austria-hungary said:
Interestingly, even after Italy entered the war in 1915, Vienna had paid only modest attention to its war aims against its former ally. For some the recapture of Venetia became the ultimate rationale for the endless campaigns, though Conrad talked grandiosely of taking all of Italy. [15]
 
This was just more of Ghadaffy's insanity at play... the ONLY possible claim Libya could've had towards Chad under Uti Posssidetis Juris would've been to the Aouzou Strip... and the ICJ had already ruled against him on that, on the basis of the Treaty of 1955...
The only thing that would've made his death more appropriate would've been if they had hung him up by the heels in a gas-station parking lot and pelted his dead body with bricks :p
 
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