No Cons Past Late 70s

[Killer300]

Ah, that too. Great suggestions guys!

 

[Socrates]

No, because you'll have someone arise to support conservative views since the USA has alot of conservative voters.

In place of the conservative resurgence, you could always have a third right-wing party emerge, disgusted with the GOP to be founded on hard right ideological purism. That gives the Democrats the Presidency for four terms, before they eventually relent and start backing the (now moderate) Republicans. Meanwhile the fairness doctrine prevents the rise of Fox news or talk radio.

 

[Thande]

No, because you'll have someone arise to support conservative views since the USA has alot of conservative voters.

Not necessarily. The US today in OTL has a fair few left-wing voters but most of them still vote for the Democrats, effectively a centre-right party, because "they're still better than the other lot and third parties have no chance of success". Conservatives are still going to vote for Rockefeller Republicans over Democrats for the same reason.

 

[John Fredrick Parker]

Ford winning in 1976 is ok too. After that, not even Reagan can win in '80 (especially after a primary fight with VP Bob Dole).

This. So you'd have:

Richard Nixon (R) (1969-74)
Gerald Ford (R) (1974-80)
Gary Hart (D) (1981-88)
Dale Bumpers (D) (1989-92)
Colin Powell (R) (1993-2000)
Bill Bradley (D) (2001-08)
Mitt Romney (R) (2009-present)

 

[tiggerfan]

That idea is SWEET! That may even doom the GOP altogether.

Isn't that pretty much the goal of this ATL ?

No opposing view to your own side ?

 

[Killer300]

Not exactly. You get an America with a different left and right wing.

 

[freethinker]

I'm going with Reagan beating Carter in '76 like the other guys.

Here's a list of Presidents that I just came up with for this.

1977-1981: Ronald Reagan, Republican
1981-1989: Edward Kennedy, Democrat
1989-1993: John Glenn, Democrat
1993-2001: Colin Powell, Republican
2001-2009: Paul Wellstone, Democrat
2009-present: Lincoln Chaffee, Republican

I didn't really put a lot of thought into it though.

mabey so but that is as close to Utopia as possible...

 

[freethinker]

My List

Ronold Regan 1977-1981
Edmund Muskie 1981-1989 (D)
Edward Kennedy 1989-1997
George Pataki 1997-2005
Dennis Kunnich 2005-2013

Another List
Ronold Regan 1977-1981(R)
Gary Heart 1981-1989 (D)
Colin Powl 1989-1997 (R)
Dick Gerpheart 1997-2005 (D)
Paul Wellstone 2005-2013

Yet Another List
Ronold Regan 1977-1981(R)
Henry Jackson 1981-1989 (D)
Loyde Bentenson 1989-1997
Eugene Mcarthy 1997-2005
Mitt Romney 2005-2013

 

[TRX]

A lot depends on definitions here. 50 years ago the South was hardcore Democrat. Our position hasn't changed, but the parties have both moved very far to the left. Compared to 1960, the current Republican party looks definitely pink, and the Democrats are out-and-out screaming liberal Commies.

Try reading John F. Kennedy's "The Strategy of Peace." It was close to the Democrat party line back then; if you put Dick Cheney's name on it and showed it to someone now, they'd just nod and say they knew he was a whackazoid warmonger owned by Big Business all along...

 

[Flocculencio]

A lot depends on definitions here. 50 years ago the South was hardcore Democrat. Our position hasn't changed, but the parties have both moved very far to the left. Compared to 1960, the current Republican party looks definitely pink, and the Democrats are out-and-out screaming liberal Commies.

Conversely in social terms everyone's moved rightward too. Many of Nixon's policies, for example, would be considered "liberal" by the modern GOP were a candidate to attempt to run on such a platform.

 

[ColeMercury]

What if the rumors that the Reagan campaign had cut a deal with the Iranians to hold those hostages through the 1980 election were not only true but blew up into a major scandal. This would be coming less than a decade after the Watergate break in. So it would reenforce the damage of the Republican party brand brought by the Nixon resignation.

Y'know, it astounds me that nobody seemed to think it was suspicious that the hostages were released on Reagan's inauguration day.

 

[Fardell]

I thought you meant no conventions

(as in sci-fi/fantasy conventions...)

 

[freethinker]

A lot depends on definitions here. 50 years ago the South was hardcore Democrat. Our position hasn't changed, but the parties have both moved very far to the left. Compared to 1960, the current Republican party looks definitely pink, and the Democrats are out-and-out screaming liberal Commies.

Try reading John F. Kennedy's "The Strategy of Peace." It was close to the Democrat party line back then; if you put Dick Cheney's name on it and showed it to someone now, they'd just nod and say they knew he was a whackazoid warmonger owned by Big Business all along...

Screaming Liberal Commies>>>
Leftism has been in retreat for 30 years....
The dems are much more right wing than in 1980

 

[Killer300]

Yeah... and it's an unfortunate trend, considering the amount of damage it has been causing, but that's a debate for another time.

In the meantime, great job guys! I didn't know this was possible without ASB, but you've shown it just requires different ordering, or an event to blow up in a unique, but possible way.