NASCAR: An Alternative History (Dead)
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God Emperor Truex.... very entertaining. You got me to sign up just off your post.
Only one critique, it might be beneficial to make notations of deviations.
I’m also curious about something. Big emphasis seems to be on Terry Schoonover not dying and being rather competitive. I found this interesting given how little of a caterer he had. I was also really intrigued that he went to Morgan-McClure and also had such a long run with them. My natural assumption would have been that he would’ve wound up in a second Baker-Oaterlund car given his ties to Baker (he was an instructor at the Baker driving school/experience after all).
Another question I would pose to you, is with Chrysler/Dodge having more of a presence in the sport, would long time Dodge campaigners Bob Keselowski and Roger Blackstock make appearances in Busch or even Cup ?
Only one critique, it might be beneficial to make notations of deviations.
I’m also curious about something. Big emphasis seems to be on Terry Schoonover not dying and being rather competitive. I found this interesting given how little of a caterer he had. I was also really intrigued that he went to Morgan-McClure and also had such a long run with them. My natural assumption would have been that he would’ve wound up in a second Baker-Oaterlund car given his ties to Baker (he was an instructor at the Baker driving school/experience after all).
Another question I would pose to you, is with Chrysler/Dodge having more of a presence in the sport, would long time Dodge campaigners Bob Keselowski and Roger Blackstock make appearances in Busch or even Cup ?
Schoonover also knew AJ Foyt and he was able to get him that ride and the rest is history. Keselowski could make some Busch starts, but he'll most likely be still in ARCA full time. Thanks for joining and liking this TL!
Okay another question for you to explore/consider does Ingo Hoffman’s win qualify him for the All-Star race? If so, does a good performance (top 5 or top 10) lead to him getting a shot at other crown jewel races or even a full time ride? This is something I could see considering late 90’s to early 2000’s Brazil was obtaining larger foreign investment percentages than any other Latin American country at the time.
Does Ayrton Senna die in 1994? I know this thread is dedicated to NASCAR but, with a race in Brazil and Ingo proving that a Brazilian can win in the American series, if he is still alive, I could see one of 2 scenarios happening. Either he at some point gives NASCAR a try (even if it’s just a one off deal) or he upon retirement funds a team to develop younger Brazilian drivers (e.i. Kannan, Dare, Nasr, the Sperafico brothers, and Bruno Senna).
Does Ayrton Senna die in 1994? I know this thread is dedicated to NASCAR but, with a race in Brazil and Ingo proving that a Brazilian can win in the American series, if he is still alive, I could see one of 2 scenarios happening. Either he at some point gives NASCAR a try (even if it’s just a one off deal) or he upon retirement funds a team to develop younger Brazilian drivers (e.i. Kannan, Dare, Nasr, the Sperafico brothers, and Bruno Senna).
His win doesn't count. It was non points. Go over to my Indycar TL for Senna.
RACE REPORTS: HICKORY AND BRISTOL
SUN DROP 300: Driving for Ricky Craven, Johnny Rumley gets his first Busch Series win. Rumley is used to the little Hickory Speedway having won in late models here now he hopes his success here will lead him to big opportunities in NASCAR, hopefully driving the car he won in, the #41 Chevy, full-time next year.
Current points leader Elton Sawyer looked to win and extend his points lead, but ended up blowing his engine while Jeremy Mayfield finished second and takes over the lead, the first rookie to ever do so. Jeff Burton rebounded from a tire issue to finish third. He continues to hope this is his breakout year that gets him closer to a cup ride. Since Hickory is small and can only fit 30 cars, you can expect a ton of dnq's and there were most notably Shawna Robinson for the second week in a row as well as rookies Ritchie Petty, Kirk Shelmerdine and Randy Porter. Dale Earnhardt's son Kerry was able to make his BGN debut, but didn't do much and finished 24th. He will run again at Nazareth and Dover next month.
GOODY'S 300: It was yet another Mark Martin fest BUT, it almost wasn't. Right before the end of the race, Hermie Sadler was limping back to pit road when Jeff Green slammed into him. Fortunately, both were able to make it to the garage under their own power. Mark was thinking about coming in for a quick splash of gas and almost peeled off to pit road but crew chief Steve Hmiel shouted at him to stay out. They hoped it would last them the last two laps and it did. (IOTL, the race ended under caution and Mark thought the white was the checkered and blew the race for himself!)
FOOD CITY 500: Dale Earnhardt wins for the second week in a row. He started 24th and worked his way up just past halfway and went on to dominate the second half. Geoff Bodine battled him through most of it, but faded to fifth. Dale's win gives him the points lead after Davey Allison ran into engine problems.
Dale runs behind Bodine at one point in the race.
The race was a WRECKFEST. It all started early when Harry Gant spun and wrecked. Then Earnhardt dumped pole sitter Hut Stricklin (who didn't even get to lead the first lap and then it was all downhill for him) and Dale Jarrett smacked the wall not long after. He was o.k. but Allison's teammate Ricky Rudd didn't appear to be after his crash. Rudd was pulled out of his car and taken to the local hospital. Fortunately, he only had minor bruises and should be able to race at North Wilkesboro. The big one happened after Stricklin spun and collected multiple cars. Finally, Mark Martin was in the top five when he hit an oil patch and slammed into the backstretch wall. Joe Nemechek spun out in it too but only had minor damage.
Here's the full results:
| Fin | St | # | Driver | Sponsor / Owner | Car | Laps | Money | Status | Led | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 24 | 3 |
| GM Goodwrench (Dale Earnhardt) | Chevrolet | 500 | 72,570 | running | 183 | 185 |
2 | 22 | 25 | Tim Richmond | GMAC (Rick Hendrick) | Chevrolet | 500 | 43,445 | running | 0 | 170 |
3 | 13 | 7 | Alan Kulwicki | Hooters (Alan Kulwicki) | Ford | 500 | 35,020 | running | 0 | 165 |
4 | 27 | 07 |
| Exide Batteries (Alan Kulwicki) | Ford | 499 | 24,356 | running | 160 | 165 |
5 | 23 | 23 |
| Mobil 1 (Chuck Rider) | Pontiac | 497 | 20,135 | running | 0 | 155 |
6 | 9 | 76 | Ted Musgrave | Unocal 76 (Dick Brooks) | Pontiac | 496 | 18,785 | running | 0 | 150 |
7 | 2 | 27 |
| Miller Genuine Draft (Roger Penske) | Ford | 494 | 23,385 | running | 81 | 151 |
8 | 18 | 4 | Terry Schoonover | Kodak Film (Larry McClure) | Chevrolet | 491 | 20,285 | running | 0 | 142 |
9 | 34 | 16 | Kenny Wallace | Marlboro (Roger Penske) | Pontiac | 488 | 19,280 | running | 0 | 138 |
10 | 29 | 11 | Brett Bodine | Lowe's (Junior Johnson) | Ford | 486 | 15,280 | running | 0 | 134 |
11 | 31 | 6 | Butch Miller | USAir/Jasper Engines (D.K. Ulrich) | Pontiac | 482 | 9,480 | running | 0 | 130 |
12 | 30 | 13 |
| Channelock (Wayne Grissom) | Dodge | 480 | 10,230 | running | 0 | 127 |
13 | 19 | 26 | Sterling Marlin | Quaker State/ Budweiser (Kenny Bernstein) | Ford | 478 | 16,155 | running | 0 | 124 |
14 | 26 | 66 | Jimmy Spencer | Phillips 66 (Travis Carter) | Ford | 478 | 8,905 | running | 0 | 121 |
15 | 37 | 17 |
| Wal-Mart (Darrell Waltrip) | Chevrolet | 476 | 15,755 | running | 0 | 118 |
16 | 6 | 41 | Ricky Craven | Kodiak (Larry Hedrick) | Chevrolet | 473 | 11,480 | running | 0 | 115 |
17 | 33 | 43 | Robert Pressley | STP (Petty Enterprises) | Dodge | 464 | 11,330 | running | 0 | 112 |
18 | 10 | 21 | Ernie Irvan | Citgo (Wood Brothers) | Ford | 457 | 18,580 | running | 0 | 109 |
19 | 5 | 60 | Jeff Gordon | Little Caesar's/Kmart (Jack Roush) | Ford | 431 | 15,170 | running | 0 | 106 |
20 | 14 | 42 |
| Mello Yello (Felix Sabates) | Dodge | 426 | 19,511 | running | 0 | 103 |
21 | 3 | 6 |
| Valvoline / Shitech (Jack Roush) | Ford | 425 | 20,405 | crash | 8 | 105 |
22 | 4 | 24 | Joe Nemechek | DuPont (Rick Hendrick) | Chevrolet | 425 | 14,855 | crash | 68 | 102 |
23 | 1 | 22 | Hut Stricklin | Raybestos (Bobby Allison) | Dodge | 393 | 19,105 | running | 0 | 94 |
24 | 12 | 5 |
| Kellogg's (Rick Hendrick) | Chevrolet | 373 | 18,130 | running | 0 | 91 |
25 | 21 | 31 |
| Hardee's ( Richard Childress) | Chevrolet | 368 | 8,585 | running | 0 | 88 |
26 | 8 | 15 | Dick Trickle | Factory Stores/Ford Quality Care (Michael Kranefuss | Ford | 358 | 10,355 | running | 0 | 85 |
27 | 17 | 68 | Greg Sacks | Fingerhut/RCA (Mark Smith) | Ford | 276 | 10,231 | running | 0 | 82 |
28 | 25 | 90 | Clifford Allison | Heilig-Meyers (Junie Donlavey) | Ford | 262 | 10,080 | engine | 0 | 79 |
29 | 28 | 55 |
| Skoal Classic (Richard Jackson) | Pontiac | 222 | 9,950 | crash | 0 | 76 |
30 | 15 | 9 |
| Coors Light (Bill Elliott/ Harry Melling) | Ford | 198 | 13,625 | crash | 0 | 73 |
31 | 35 | 8 | David Green | Super 8 Motels (Mickey Stavola/Bobby Allison) | Dodge | 197 | 12,625 | crash | 0 | 70 |
32 | 11 | 38 |
| Tide (Yates Racing) | Ford | 187 | 6,625 | crash | 0 | 67 |
33 | 7 | 28 |
| Texaco / Havoline (Yates Racing) | Ford | 167 | 18,225 | engine | 0 | 64 |
34 | 32 | 14 | Bobby Labonte | Slim Jim (Larry McClure) | Chevrolet | 164 | 6,625 | crash | 0 | 61 |
35 | 16 | 12 | Bobby Hamilton | Square D (Junior Johnson) | Ford | 159 | 6,625 | head gasket | 0 | 58 |
36 | 36 | 18 |
| Interstate Batteries (Joe Gibbs) | Dodge | 66 | 12,025 | crash | 0 | 55 |
37 | 20 | 33 |
| Skoal Bandit (Leo Jackson) | Pontiac | 10 | 10,625 | crash | 0 | 52 |
DNQ: #08 Bobby Hillin, #19 Chad Little, #20 Randy LaJoie, #34 Todd Bodine, #52 Jimmy Hensley, #71 Dave Marcis, #83 Lake Speed
Because some stay dry while others feel the pain.../s
It's a homage to Tony Raines, who KamikazeGames is playing as in his NASCAR Thunder 2004 livestreamed career mode.
Hopefully still will. When he's not working 17 hours a day.
I think the thing that I’m intrigued most about going forward is whether Christian Fittipaldi, Juan Pablo Montoya, Erin Crocker, Kasey Kahn’s, and Sam Hornish Jr. going to go to Cup or IndyCar
Fittipaldi INDYCART, Montoya definitely Indy and F1 (may return to Indy?) Screw Erin, Kasey in NASCAR, and keep Hornish at Team Penske