Lands of Red and Gold

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mojojojo

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Another winner:D

So how will Baffin and his crew make out in the kingdom of Daluming

Also, when will some one in Aururia get the idea of kicking gum cider or yam wine up a notch with distillation?
 
Wow. This is amazing. Things will soon be interesting in the Bobby Kennedy sense for the English explorers.

Yes, they've walked into a religious myth of sorts. At least they have something to keep themselves entertained. Or to keep someone entertained.

(Of course, if it hadn't been the English, it would have been the Nangu.)

Interesting. Any chance of a more detailed map of the minor city states mentioned along the eastern coast?

If you or anyone else wants to try their hand at drawing up a map, I'm happy to provide the necessary input for names etc. It's just that, being cartographically challenged, I'm not very good at drawing maps myself.

Great post, as always. I think we definitely need a couple of images of that pyramide - and a detailed story of how it was built.

If anyone's feeling artistic...

Is it really build of glass? The amount of glass needed is already a major engineering achievement (I guess the pyramid itself is made of stone and glass boxes are set on the outside).

The pyramid itself is made of stone, but with insets of glass at the top of each level. Not that much glass, but enough to cover the skull which is set inside. The skulls are put there as a measure of respect and religious devotion, of course, but the visiting Europeans won't exactly see it that way.

The construction and appearance of the pyramid is described in more detail in the introductory post on the kingdom of Daluming, back here.

I've never read that in English, is this a quote from Terry Prattchett?

Sir Terry makes much use of that line, yes.

A variation on a Pterry quote, yes. He has great fun mocking how explorers 'discovered' places already filled with people.

So how will Baffin and his crew make out in the kingdom of Daluming

They will have a chance for a personal religious experience. A one-time experience.

Also, when will some one in Aururia get the idea of kicking gum cider or yam wine up a notch with distillation?

Hard to say, but it will happen sooner or later. The Gunnagal in Tjibarr already know about distillation, of course, but it's a trade secret amongst physicians (for medicine) and perfume makers. If the secret doesn't spread on its own, contact with Europeans and their distilled beverages will get the idea across sooner or later.
 
Yes, they've walked into a religious myth of sorts. At least they have something to keep themselves entertained. Or to keep someone entertained.

(Of course, if it hadn't been the English, it would have been the Nangu.)



If you or anyone else wants to try their hand at drawing up a map, I'm happy to provide the necessary input for names etc. It's just that, being cartographically challenged, I'm not very good at drawing maps myself.



If anyone's feeling artistic...

I might try sometime but I'm not that good at making maps myself unless I have references......:(
 
Two weeks. That's how long it took me to read this beast. And now I'm sorry I'm caught up, because it means I'm going to have to wait for the next installment just like everyone else instead of reading 3-5 chapters a day like I'm accustomed to.

*sigh*

So it goes. Keep up the good work, because I am hooked.
 

Hnau

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Jared, still brilliant as always. The British are definitely going to start muddying the waters down in Aururia. I wonder how much the Dutch will fight for their current zone of influence there, and how successful the British will be in taking it away from them.

Are we finally getting back to the Thirty Years War? Fantastic! I'm excited. :)
 
I might try sometime but I'm not that good at making maps myself unless I have references......:(

There are maps of Australia online somewhere, but map-making really isn't my forte, so I can't help much with that, other than explaining what the ATL names for things are.

Two weeks. That's how long it took me to read this beast. And now I'm sorry I'm caught up, because it means I'm going to have to wait for the next installment just like everyone else instead of reading 3-5 chapters a day like I'm accustomed to.

Researching and writing this timeline does, unfortunately, take longer than reading it, even when I don't have so many other time commitments these days. More instalments will come in time, of course, but I can't commit to any particular schedule.

Jared, still brilliant as always. The British are definitely going to start muddying the waters down in Aururia. I wonder how much the Dutch will fight for their current zone of influence there, and how successful the British will be in taking it away from them.

Well, the Dutch have reasonably secure influence over the Atjuntja; first-mover advantage will do that. The English, on the other hand, have just been gifted strong influence over the Yadji realm.

The English backing the Yadji means that Tjibarr is more likely to favour the Dutch, but then remember that it's always hard to pick what the Gunnagal will do. The average Gunnagal looks at his fried egg from nine different angles before he has breakfast, so never assume that anything they do is straightforward.

For the rest of the continent, well, Tasmania is more or less guaranteed to become a case of each power backing one or other of the locals. (Lots of gold down there to make it worth trading with them.) The Nangu are harder to pick, but then they're partial rivals of both powers, too. The east coast is such a mix of city-states that both sides will be fighting for influence, at least in the spice-producing areas.

Are we finally getting back to the Thirty Years War? Fantastic! I'm excited. :)

Yup, next post will be about the *Thirty Years' War, unless I have a flash of inspiration and write a short post on something else along the way. (Finishing the HRE post may take a while; there's a lot of nations to figure out there.)
 
It's not a good idea to read the early stages of this timeline when you're hungry. So much yummy sounding food. . .
 
It's not a good idea to read the early stages of this timeline when you're hungry. So much yummy sounding food. . .

Some of which actually can be cooked, or at least close variations. I've managed to get my hands on some of the "sweet peppers" (Dorrigo peppers) described in the timeline. Now I just have to hold off on cooking anything else until my mouth is no longer numb...
 

mojojojo

Gone Fishin'
Some of which actually can be cooked, or at least close variations. I've managed to get my hands on some of the "sweet peppers" (Dorrigo peppers) described in the timeline. Now I just have to hold off on cooking anything else until my mouth is no longer numb...
Makes me wonder what the modern day fastfood of this TL will be like
 
Makes me wonder what the modern day fastfood of this TL will be like

Could go all sorts of ways. I like to think that the Aururian version of fast food would be something along the lines of, say, Ethiopian fast food of today, perhaps with some extra zing.

Or at least the version of it that I've tried: mixture of various kinds of lentils and salsa, wrapped in flatbread and doused with chilli sauce. Beats the traditional fried playdough wedged between two pieces of cardboard that the average "burger" joint sells.

I am absolutely convinced that OTL has the blandest possible Fastfood...

I sometimes think that the idea of fast food is to remove all possible flavour, and add as many empty calories as possible. I'm not sure whether that idea holds across timelines or not, but I've had enough nice food prepared quickly to make me realise that it doesn't have to be that way.

Anyway, I can make one other observation about TTL's cuisine: Gunnagal chefs will welcome the arrival of the chilli pepper in the same way that soldiers used to rifles welcomed the arrival of the machine gun.

The Gunnagal sound like they would be right at home on the internet.

Wait until they discover lawyers...
 
Decades of Darkness just can't quite reach the level that TLoR&G has.

This TL needs to be published sometime. If my advice meant anything to you, I'd forget about DoD for a while and try to find someone who'll publish this because this is, IMHO, probably your best and most original work ever. And I mean that sincerely. ;)
 

FDW

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Well, if you consider the environment some modern popular fast foods were developed in (like the Hamburger), with it being literally intended as quick, cheap, empty calories that could get you through those last few hours at the factory, then it kind of explains itself. Also I kind of think the blandness is a grass appears greener on the other side issue.
 
This TL needs to be published sometime. If my advice meant anything to you, I'd forget about DoD for a while and try to find someone who'll publish this because this is, IMHO, probably your best and most original work ever. And I mean that sincerely. ;)

I appreciate the thought, but my view is that the world of DoD has rather more popular/commercial appeal than the LRGverse. LRG is a rather specialised taste, and also has a PoD set further back so that the world is simply going to be a lot stranger than anything people will recognise. DoD features an evil USA, but the fact that it focuses on the USA in some form will probably generate more interest than a world in which the USA never exists at all.

Well, if you consider the environment some modern popular fast foods were developed in (like the Hamburger), with it being literally intended as quick, cheap, empty calories that could get you through those last few hours at the factory, then it kind of explains itself.

That could be a big part of it.

Also I kind of think the blandness is a grass appears greener on the other side issue.

In part, but I also suspect that bland, highly processed food is cheaper to make, which is probably part of the story too.
 
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