GeographyDude
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As sports become bigger in the ‘70s and ‘80s, jai-alai might be an example of one of these “new,” expanding sports, and not just in Miami!
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Doctors hold line, earlier knowledge of CTE, what if American football becomes 18+ in late 1960s?
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GeographyDude
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With football on the downswing, not all the alternatives are going to be the most wholesome!
Similar to the frisson of danger of watching someone go over the waterfall in a barrel. Just an updated late ‘60s to mid ‘70s version.
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GeographyDude
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I think this mom hits it right and explains why parents make different decisions. If parents focus on concussion management, then they might well think there are ways to make football safe. If instead, they focus on the large number of subconcussive hits, then no way, it's time to move on to other sports.
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Wonder why so much fear concussion, i would fear more got a paralysis by a bad hit.
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This book goes on to say that TV is what brought the big money into baseball.
PS and presumably for football somewhat later
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GeographyDude
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I think people just get it wrong, like they can get other health issues wrong.
Alright, there is post-concussion syndrome (relatively common), as well as second impact syndrome (rare), and these are real and valid things to worry about. And plus, focusing on concussion involves a lot of active steps, such as training coaches, preventing some concussions, managing others (I was surprised to find out that both physical and cognitive rest are recommended, meaning less screen time with cell phones and computers during recovery and perhaps half-days at school for a while).
However, with CTE and brain damage, it looks like concussions are merely one contributing factor, and the major contributing factor is the accumulation of all the subconcussive hits. Which basically means, that if you're a teacher, coach, or administrator concerned with the health and safety of your students, including the young adults in high school, pretty much the only thing you can do is to gracefully phase out football. And then try to introduce and experiment with other sports and other seasons.
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GeographyDude
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A safer game doesn't mean a boring game.
Currently: Almost every contested pass play is real close in terms of offensive or defensive pass interference.
GeographyDude
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Future Possibility: The game takes out full-frontal collisions, but allows side-by-side scrapping.
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GeographyDude
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Not just linebackers, but there's been some discussion of mandating the two-point stance for the offensive and defensive line. And thus . . .
Future Possibility: More scrapping on the line, less full-frontal collisions?
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Even de-emphasizing the role of the head in attack and defense, there's still going to be a fair amount of repeated head trauma.
The game remains 18+.
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GeographyDude
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Superbowl III Jan. 12, 1969 Orange Bowl (in Miami), New York Jets 16, Baltimore Colts 7
Superbowl V Jan. 17, 1971 Orange Bowl (in Miami), Baltimore Colts 16, Dallas Cowboys 13
Superbowl VI dud
Superbowl VII dud
Superbowl VIII dud
Superbowl IX dud
Superbowl X Jan. 18, 1976 Orange Bowl (in Miami), Pittsburgh Steelers 21, Dallas Cowboys 17
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Unless you were a fan of the winning team, a lot of the early and mid '70s Superbowls were duds.
Several days before the game, Joe Namath says, “We’re going to win Sunday. I guarantee it.” And then, completely unexpectedly, the Jets pull it off!
Superbowl IV dud
Superbowl V Jan. 17, 1971 Orange Bowl (in Miami), Baltimore Colts 16, Dallas Cowboys 13
with Jim O'Brien kicking last-second winning field goal
Superbowl VI dud
Superbowl VII dud
Superbowl VIII dud
Superbowl IX dud
Superbowl X Jan. 18, 1976 Orange Bowl (in Miami), Pittsburgh Steelers 21, Dallas Cowboys 17
with Lynn Swann making four separate really good and/or spectacular catches
Superbowl XI dud
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Unless you were a fan of the winning team, a lot of the early and mid '70s Superbowls were duds.
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GeographyDude
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Bottom of the 12th! The classic game six of the 1975 World Series between the Boston Red Sox and the Cincinnati Reds. Carlton Fisk's homer won it for Boston.
However, the Cincinnati Reds would go on to win game seven by a score of 4-3.
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GeographyDude
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So, all through the early and mid '70s, two professional basketball leagues.
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In OTL, basketball has arguably exceeded baseball, and is now second only to football.
In an ATL with football on the decline, perhaps it's the case that both basketball has its big growth years earlier and baseball finds a way to give it a run for its money.
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GeographyDude
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Yes, the late ‘70s with the New York Cosmos hiring an aging Pelé is an interesting chapter.
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http://www.nasljerseys.com/Players/P/Pele.htm
With less competition from American football, we might see the growth of
fútbol by leaps and bounds (until it’s discovered that too much practice heading the ball is not great for brain health either, sorry, but it’s not).
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In this ATL, Aussie Rules may have more participants in the US than back home in Australia.
Australian Rules Football got it's serious start in the USA in the late 1960s in Detroit when a small suburban junior competition was put together by a group of Big-3 auto executives & engineers who had previously been sent by their employers to work in Melbourne or Adelaide (Ford & GM/Holden have their Australian HQs in Melbourne, Chrysler had their HQ & main plant in Adelaide). Their children had played in suburban junior competitions during their time in Australia, and they & their families had grown to love the game, and the club atmosphere. When American football participation was restricted for those under 18, this lead to the creation of a small junior competition in the Detroit suburbs. The organizers were assisted by quite a few Australians who were on secondment to their corporate HQs, some of whom had played the game at the highest levels in the VFL & the SANFL (OTL, Aussie Rules was state-based up to the late 80's. The VFL would become the AFL in 1990. It was also mainly semi-professional until the early 90's. Up to then, most players worked a day job Monday-Friday & most games were played on Saturday afternoons.).
As the small suburban competition gathered momentum during the late 60's-early 70's, those Australians in Detroit who were assisting with coaching teams, or helping in administration, sought assistance from the VFL back in Melbourne, and those who were former players also received donations of uniforms & equipment from their former clubs in Melbourne & Adelaide. The VFL, realising they had a golden opportunity to promote & expand the participation & support of Australian football in the US, set up their first overseas office in Detroit in 1971. This lead to the setting up of similar competitions in New York, Boston & Los Angeles by the end of 1974. By 1980, there was a Australian Rules league in 20 states. The massive levels of US participation by Australian standards, lead to the VFL announcing that the 1976 season would be the first to have a weekly Sunday game, to allow this to be shown live on US television on Saturday nights as well as the Saturday game of the round shown live on Friday nights US time.
By 1985, the USFL had started with 10 teams (Detroit Demons, Boston Blues, Milwaukee Magpies, Cleveland Cats, New York Bulldogs, Louisville Lions, LA Stars, San Francisco Swans, Denver Cougars & Dallas Bigshots)
From "Australian Rules - How it conquered the US"
2010, Melbourne University Press
Australian Rules Football got it's serious start in the USA in the late 1960s in Detroit when a small suburban junior competition was put together by a group of Big-3 auto executives & engineers who had previously been sent by their employers to work in Melbourne or Adelaide (Ford & GM/Holden have their Australian HQs in Melbourne, Chrysler had their HQ & main plant in Adelaide). Their children had played in suburban junior competitions during their time in Australia, and they & their families had grown to love the game, and the club atmosphere. When American football participation was restricted for those under 18, this lead to the creation of a small junior competition in the Detroit suburbs. The organizers were assisted by quite a few Australians who were on secondment to their corporate HQs, some of whom had played the game at the highest levels in the VFL & the SANFL (OTL, Aussie Rules was state-based up to the late 80's. The VFL would become the AFL in 1990. It was also mainly semi-professional until the early 90's. Up to then, most players worked a day job Monday-Friday & most games were played on Saturday afternoons.).
As the small suburban competition gathered momentum during the late 60's-early 70's, those Australians in Detroit who were assisting with coaching teams, or helping in administration, sought assistance from the VFL back in Melbourne, and those who were former players also received donations of uniforms & equipment from their former clubs in Melbourne & Adelaide. The VFL, realising they had a golden opportunity to promote & expand the participation & support of Australian football in the US, set up their first overseas office in Detroit in 1971. This lead to the setting up of similar competitions in New York, Boston & Los Angeles by the end of 1974. By 1980, there was a Australian Rules league in 20 states. The massive levels of US participation by Australian standards, lead to the VFL announcing that the 1976 season would be the first to have a weekly Sunday game, to allow this to be shown live on US television on Saturday nights as well as the Saturday game of the round shown live on Friday nights US time.
By 1985, the USFL had started with 10 teams (Detroit Demons, Boston Blues, Milwaukee Magpies, Cleveland Cats, New York Bulldogs, Louisville Lions, LA Stars, San Francisco Swans, Denver Cougars & Dallas Bigshots)
From "Australian Rules - How it conquered the US"
2010, Melbourne University Press