I decided for Stalin to never gain power in this TL. Idk why just preference
America: A TL Retold
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Haven't really thought about it maybe he stayed in the Seminary
Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
The Japanese War was soon looking like little more than a slightly more mobile version of World War I. While more American divisions were being sent to Japan preparing and shipping them took time not to mention Congress wasn't willing to write a blank check on military expansion and with conscription disbanded new recruits had to be volunteers. This made the American led allies pick and choose where they made new offensives. That wasn't the same for Korea and North Japan who made wave attack after wave attack. While this caused them massive amounts of casualties and many attacks would fail there were so many of them that some would break through. These breakthroughs wouldn't make much headway though. By the fall the front was a line roughly from just north of Mito to Joetsu with it rarely ever moving more than a few miles one way or the other.
Despite Russia's protests and threats the Coalition was, not only allowing Germany to rearm, but helping them as well. Trying to show Russia's muscles and try get the Coalition Beria ordered two more Armies of reservist called up and sent to western Poland and Czechia as a show of force. This in turn saw the Coalition increase their presence in Germany whereas by September Britain had 100,000 troops, Italy had 100,000 troops, and France had 175,000. along with these there was also around 45,000 men in the international group made up of units from the rest of the Coalition. This only made things grow worse and soon each side was doing military maneuvers just over the border from one another and there was almost no contact between the East and the West.
While the Coalition was increasing their manpower in Europe Russia still outnumbered them more than 5-1. This lead the Coalition call up some their reserves to make that number gap smaller. Russia saw this as a mobilization and a direct threat made towards them and demanded that the Coalition immediately stop while also calling up more reserves in Russia. Heads of the Coalition stated that they would stop the reserves call ups and withdraw foreign troops from Germany if Russia did the same and pulled out of eastern Europe and from western Poland to create a safe buffer between the two sides. This is something Beria flat out refused to do and things deteriorated further.
At 4am on September 21,1950 the world seemed to end. While all Coalition nations grabbed up as many German scientists and German tech as they could during the war, it was only a fraction of the amount that Russia acquired. At 4am Russian bombers and both land and ship based ballistic missiles hit military bases and the dozens of the coalitions major cities across every European based nation in the Coalition. These bombs and missiles were loaded with a new chemical agent called V gas, a nerve agent that was so toxic it could kill just by touching skin. 150,000-250,000 soldiers and civilian died in the initial gas attack with as many more suffering serious, sometimes eventually fatal, injuries. Along with the V attack Russian naval forces launched a massive attack on Britain's fleet at Scapa Flow. Three Russian fleet carriers, three escort carriers, six converted ballistic missile carriers, six battleships, 30 submarines and dozens of cruisers and destroyers attacked with everything they had. This would be the worst British naval defeat in its history. All of its six carriers were sunk or disabled, the same with the eight battleships, four of its six battlecruisers, and eleven other ships at the loss for Russia of only 87 aircraft, 3 submarines, and one missile carrier which was due to a missile explosion on the pad.
Four hours after the attack began, and while V filled missiles were still flying into Coalition cities, 2.75 million Russian troops along with 3 million allied troops under their command invaded the Coalition with more troops on the way. To cut down supplies from the Americas Russia also launched an amphibious invasion of Iceland which would fall in less than 24 hours. Soon hundreds of aircraft were arriving on the island along with tankers and cargo ships offloading more men and naval supplies as over 100 submarines and nearly as many surface ships moved to call Iceland their home for the wars duration.
The Japanese War was soon looking like little more than a slightly more mobile version of World War I. While more American divisions were being sent to Japan preparing and shipping them took time not to mention Congress wasn't willing to write a blank check on military expansion and with conscription disbanded new recruits had to be volunteers. This made the American led allies pick and choose where they made new offensives. That wasn't the same for Korea and North Japan who made wave attack after wave attack. While this caused them massive amounts of casualties and many attacks would fail there were so many of them that some would break through. These breakthroughs wouldn't make much headway though. By the fall the front was a line roughly from just north of Mito to Joetsu with it rarely ever moving more than a few miles one way or the other.
Despite Russia's protests and threats the Coalition was, not only allowing Germany to rearm, but helping them as well. Trying to show Russia's muscles and try get the Coalition Beria ordered two more Armies of reservist called up and sent to western Poland and Czechia as a show of force. This in turn saw the Coalition increase their presence in Germany whereas by September Britain had 100,000 troops, Italy had 100,000 troops, and France had 175,000. along with these there was also around 45,000 men in the international group made up of units from the rest of the Coalition. This only made things grow worse and soon each side was doing military maneuvers just over the border from one another and there was almost no contact between the East and the West.
While the Coalition was increasing their manpower in Europe Russia still outnumbered them more than 5-1. This lead the Coalition call up some their reserves to make that number gap smaller. Russia saw this as a mobilization and a direct threat made towards them and demanded that the Coalition immediately stop while also calling up more reserves in Russia. Heads of the Coalition stated that they would stop the reserves call ups and withdraw foreign troops from Germany if Russia did the same and pulled out of eastern Europe and from western Poland to create a safe buffer between the two sides. This is something Beria flat out refused to do and things deteriorated further.
At 4am on September 21,1950 the world seemed to end. While all Coalition nations grabbed up as many German scientists and German tech as they could during the war, it was only a fraction of the amount that Russia acquired. At 4am Russian bombers and both land and ship based ballistic missiles hit military bases and the dozens of the coalitions major cities across every European based nation in the Coalition. These bombs and missiles were loaded with a new chemical agent called V gas, a nerve agent that was so toxic it could kill just by touching skin. 150,000-250,000 soldiers and civilian died in the initial gas attack with as many more suffering serious, sometimes eventually fatal, injuries. Along with the V attack Russian naval forces launched a massive attack on Britain's fleet at Scapa Flow. Three Russian fleet carriers, three escort carriers, six converted ballistic missile carriers, six battleships, 30 submarines and dozens of cruisers and destroyers attacked with everything they had. This would be the worst British naval defeat in its history. All of its six carriers were sunk or disabled, the same with the eight battleships, four of its six battlecruisers, and eleven other ships at the loss for Russia of only 87 aircraft, 3 submarines, and one missile carrier which was due to a missile explosion on the pad.
Four hours after the attack began, and while V filled missiles were still flying into Coalition cities, 2.75 million Russian troops along with 3 million allied troops under their command invaded the Coalition with more troops on the way. To cut down supplies from the Americas Russia also launched an amphibious invasion of Iceland which would fall in less than 24 hours. Soon hundreds of aircraft were arriving on the island along with tankers and cargo ships offloading more men and naval supplies as over 100 submarines and nearly as many surface ships moved to call Iceland their home for the wars duration.
cool I have never watched that
I was thinking along the lines of how Pearl Harbor hit OTL. And it was under a chemical attack to so that made it kind of hard to get out and about and do your job. But I may have gone a little overboard on the numbers lost I can change it if y'all think
I did not expect this. Russia is going for the jugular. Western Europe and the Middle east will be charnel houses.
Chances of the Japan War escalating are probably 75% right now. Brazil will also try to take advantage in my opinion
Chances of the Japan War escalating are probably 75% right now. Brazil will also try to take advantage in my opinion
The Bear Is Loose
Russian led forces were moving forward rapidly behind over 30,000 tanks. The thrust into Germany was fast. While Anglo-German forces made a gallant attempt to stop the at the Battle of the Oder, however they were forced to withdraw after just two days not because they were overran, but because the Italo-German army on the Bavarian Saxon border was overran by Russo-Czech-Slovakian forces storming out of Czechia. British, French, Dutch, Spanish, and Portuguese forces were moving into Germany as fast as possible but western Germany was being relentlessly saturated with V-gas making the movements hazardous at best. By the end of October Russian led forces were on the Kiel Canal and fighting over the now toxic cities of Hamburg, Hanover, Nuremberg, and Munich. While the Coalition was doing its best to stop them the mighty Russian behemoth was at most just being slowed down.
While Germany was by far the main event all of the Coalition was under attack. A million Russian led troops poured into Italy. Italian Dalmatia and Slovenia were overran in days with what was left of Trieste falling just a week after the invasion began. Italian forces were trying all they could to stop them in Venetia but there were just too many. On October 10 Venice fell and the war began moving into Lombardy and the peninsula. By Halloween Milan was being assaulted and they were moving on Bologna. The Coalition was in full mobilization and hoped to hold them in Germany and Italy but with the mass of Russia against them they weren't holding their breath. The Netherlands and France were building up their border fortifications as fast as they could hoping to keep the ground war out of their countries.
The only part of the offensive that wasn't completely Russian led was against Turkey. Here Greek and Bulgarian forces were assaulting from the west while Russia attacked the east. 750,000 Greek and Bulgarian troops assaulted Istanbul. Though Istanbul had been completely as saturated by chemical weapons as the rest of the European Coalition's major cities the Turks fought hard and after two brutal bloody weeks of hard fighting the Greco-Bulgarian force withdrew.
Greece had the second largest navy in the Krakow Pact and were using it, along with the Russian Mediterranean Squadron based in Salonki, to attack Italy's eastern Mediterranean possessions. The Dodecanese fell after just a few days. Crete held out for two weeks but it too would fall. And the Greeks also moved on Cyprus. The invasion of Cyprus began just four days after the wider attack started. The Greeks sent 75,000 men to conquer the island which held only 20,000 Italian soldiers. For three weeks the Battle of Cyprus would rage as Greek forces tried to capture the island. The tide would turn against them however on October 11 when the Greco-Russian fleet was virtually destroyed by vessels from the Italian and Royal Navy in the Battle of Levantine. With their supply line cut the Italians began to push back and on October 22 the Battle of Cyprus ended with the Greek surrender at Paphos.
While the attack on Istanbul was driven off the Russian invasion wasn't. Russian forces blasted through Turkish border defenses and quickly began moving towards the Syrian border. Russian naval infantry also began landing on the Turkish Black Sea coast. Though the terrain slowed them somewhat by October the eastern quarter of Turkey was occupied.
While Russia was going all out in Europe it was still maintaining its policy in Asia of “officially” staying out of it. While they said they were not intervening the Americans didn't believe it. While the US had learned the hard way that Japan had some damn good pilots during the last war many American pilots stated that the pilots flying Japanese and Korean jet fighters were in fact Russian. They same was said on the ground as American troops stated that the soldiers they saw bailing out of destroyed T-34's and the few T-54's looked awfully with to be coming from Japan or Korea. Since their was no definitive proof however there wasn't much America could do but keep fighting as they had.
Though the US had abandoned the Coalition and weren't on the best of terms the view in Washington was that of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Though they remained officially neutral they began shipping supplies the Coalition. One thing the outbreak of war in Europe did for the Japanese War was that it finally got Congress to pass a budget for a larger army. Though President Long didn't get to reinstate conscription as he had wanted, the size of the army was upped from 650,000 to a million. With the ability to put an additional 350,000 men in uniform more units were now able to be sent to Japan. Tough it would take some weeks for them to arrive the Americans in Japan were finally going to get some reinforcements.
Russian led forces were moving forward rapidly behind over 30,000 tanks. The thrust into Germany was fast. While Anglo-German forces made a gallant attempt to stop the at the Battle of the Oder, however they were forced to withdraw after just two days not because they were overran, but because the Italo-German army on the Bavarian Saxon border was overran by Russo-Czech-Slovakian forces storming out of Czechia. British, French, Dutch, Spanish, and Portuguese forces were moving into Germany as fast as possible but western Germany was being relentlessly saturated with V-gas making the movements hazardous at best. By the end of October Russian led forces were on the Kiel Canal and fighting over the now toxic cities of Hamburg, Hanover, Nuremberg, and Munich. While the Coalition was doing its best to stop them the mighty Russian behemoth was at most just being slowed down.
While Germany was by far the main event all of the Coalition was under attack. A million Russian led troops poured into Italy. Italian Dalmatia and Slovenia were overran in days with what was left of Trieste falling just a week after the invasion began. Italian forces were trying all they could to stop them in Venetia but there were just too many. On October 10 Venice fell and the war began moving into Lombardy and the peninsula. By Halloween Milan was being assaulted and they were moving on Bologna. The Coalition was in full mobilization and hoped to hold them in Germany and Italy but with the mass of Russia against them they weren't holding their breath. The Netherlands and France were building up their border fortifications as fast as they could hoping to keep the ground war out of their countries.
The only part of the offensive that wasn't completely Russian led was against Turkey. Here Greek and Bulgarian forces were assaulting from the west while Russia attacked the east. 750,000 Greek and Bulgarian troops assaulted Istanbul. Though Istanbul had been completely as saturated by chemical weapons as the rest of the European Coalition's major cities the Turks fought hard and after two brutal bloody weeks of hard fighting the Greco-Bulgarian force withdrew.
Greece had the second largest navy in the Krakow Pact and were using it, along with the Russian Mediterranean Squadron based in Salonki, to attack Italy's eastern Mediterranean possessions. The Dodecanese fell after just a few days. Crete held out for two weeks but it too would fall. And the Greeks also moved on Cyprus. The invasion of Cyprus began just four days after the wider attack started. The Greeks sent 75,000 men to conquer the island which held only 20,000 Italian soldiers. For three weeks the Battle of Cyprus would rage as Greek forces tried to capture the island. The tide would turn against them however on October 11 when the Greco-Russian fleet was virtually destroyed by vessels from the Italian and Royal Navy in the Battle of Levantine. With their supply line cut the Italians began to push back and on October 22 the Battle of Cyprus ended with the Greek surrender at Paphos.
While the attack on Istanbul was driven off the Russian invasion wasn't. Russian forces blasted through Turkish border defenses and quickly began moving towards the Syrian border. Russian naval infantry also began landing on the Turkish Black Sea coast. Though the terrain slowed them somewhat by October the eastern quarter of Turkey was occupied.
While Russia was going all out in Europe it was still maintaining its policy in Asia of “officially” staying out of it. While they said they were not intervening the Americans didn't believe it. While the US had learned the hard way that Japan had some damn good pilots during the last war many American pilots stated that the pilots flying Japanese and Korean jet fighters were in fact Russian. They same was said on the ground as American troops stated that the soldiers they saw bailing out of destroyed T-34's and the few T-54's looked awfully with to be coming from Japan or Korea. Since their was no definitive proof however there wasn't much America could do but keep fighting as they had.
Though the US had abandoned the Coalition and weren't on the best of terms the view in Washington was that of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Though they remained officially neutral they began shipping supplies the Coalition. One thing the outbreak of war in Europe did for the Japanese War was that it finally got Congress to pass a budget for a larger army. Though President Long didn't get to reinstate conscription as he had wanted, the size of the army was upped from 650,000 to a million. With the ability to put an additional 350,000 men in uniform more units were now able to be sent to Japan. Tough it would take some weeks for them to arrive the Americans in Japan were finally going to get some reinforcements.
Germany will likely be completely occupied, so the war will head into France. Since the Royal Navy dominates the Med, Turkey won't be cut off. Central Anatolia is sparsely populated and heavily mountainous, so Russia will be unable to advance past a crawl.
Their Army is probably completely modernized and glut with veterans from the war, but they likely don't have as many reserves.
Actually I would put Russia's population as higher than it was this time OTL. In ww2 they lost within a couple million of what they did OTL, did better in ww1, had no Russian civil war, no great purges, still own Finland and all of Poland. OTL Soviet Union population in 1951 was 182 million. ITTL I'd put Russia's population between 200 and 225 million
With the lights out, it's less dangerous
200,000 British, German, Danish, and Norwegian troops were trying to hold the Russian advance into Jutland at the Kiel Canal. It wasn't that holding Denmark was of any vital importance land wise, however in the Coalition not abandoning the peninsula they tied down most of a Russian army relieving pressure on its Allies in western Germany.
This relief wasn't much however. By December Russian led forces controlled nearly all of Germany east of the Rhine and Stuttgart, which was being heavily fought over. On January 6, 1951 Russia began the Rhine Offensive with the intend on taking the rest of Germany and moving the war into France and Holland. Two Russian and one Czech army would assault the Coalition lines between Munster and Bonn. By now there were 750,000 French, Spanish, German, British, and Portuguese soldiers were defending this last stretch of the line for all it was worth. In a week of heavy fighting the front here hadn't moved out of the suburbs of the line of Rhineland cities.
That however wasn't the main line of attack despite the offensives name. No the main place Russia was attacking for a breakthrough was on the Dutch border which would take place six days after the offensive began the the Anglo-Dutch line was broken. Once the line here broke all of Northern Holland would fall in just over twenty-four hours. Following their victory over Coalition forces at the Battle of Zwolle on January 30 Russia was on the verge of taking Amsterdam. With the Russian breakthrough in Holland Coalition lines in Rhineland began to falter. By March Russian led forces were heavily engaged in the Battle of Amsterdam and on the border of Alsace Lorraine. Almost all of Germany was now under their control.
In Italy Russian led forces were continuing forward as well. Milan would fall on November 23 and the Russo-Hungarian-Yugoslavian split in two with one arm moving on Turin and the other on Genoa. On the southern front Bologna came under assault. For two weeks the Italians held the Russians in the Battle of Bologna but by mid November it had fallen. With Bologna in their hands Russian forces began preparing to go on the offensive deeper into Italy. On December 14 Russian forces began moving into the tiny city state of San Marino. It was here that the Italians made a new attempt to stop them. The Battle of San Marino would last for eight days and saw brutal fighting that nearly leveled the entire country. But here in San Marino the Italians weren't alone and had several divisions from Canada, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand and here a Coalition counteroffensive knocked the Russians back and at least temporarily stopped their thrust south.
In Piedmont however the Italians weren't having as good of luck. On January 14 Russia did what Germany never could achieve and captured the port city of Genoa cutting Italy in two. Further north the Battle of Turin would rage until January 27. With Turin captured Russian led forces now had control over nearly all of the Po Valley and Coalition forces here were pushed back nearly to the French border. With the Russian's driving so fast through Italy and Germany 175,000 German and Italian troops had withdrawn into the Alps. For months German and Italian Alpine troops were a thorn in Russia's side and like Jutland tied up most of an army. Though they eventually surrendered it would drain Russia and its allies of men and material for the next seven months.
With Istanbul to heavily fortified Greek and Bulgarian forces looked to invade Anatolia. On November 20 a Greek army and a Bulgarian army landing at Canakkale and Izmir. The two nations would face fierce resistance by Turkish forces and populace. It would take the rest of the year before Greek and Bulgarian forces finally connected their footholds. In January Greek forces started an offensive to capture the city of Bursa and make a good staging point to assault Istanbul from the east. For over a month Greek and Turkish forces bitterly fought one another in the Battle of Bursa. Though they would finally take the city they had been exhausted and were unable to push forward. Same held true for Bulgaria who captured Usak just a week earlier.
For the remainder of 1950 the Japanese war was mostly stagnate. With additional units arriving from home however general Patton had a lively spring planned in Japan. On February 4 Operation Blackjack began as 170,000 American, 70,000 Japanese, 10,000 New Zealander, and 25,000 Australian troops went on the assault. The plans were to take move around and cut off the Korean Expeditionary Force. The attack blew through the area where the Korean and North Japanese lines met and began rapidly moving northwest to encircle the Koreans. American led forces advanced more than thirty miles and captured nearly 100,000 North Japanese and Korean prisoners. It looked like the offensive would succeed in overtaking the Koreans. On March 17 however the offensive was halted after the eight day long Battle of Uonuma.
200,000 British, German, Danish, and Norwegian troops were trying to hold the Russian advance into Jutland at the Kiel Canal. It wasn't that holding Denmark was of any vital importance land wise, however in the Coalition not abandoning the peninsula they tied down most of a Russian army relieving pressure on its Allies in western Germany.
This relief wasn't much however. By December Russian led forces controlled nearly all of Germany east of the Rhine and Stuttgart, which was being heavily fought over. On January 6, 1951 Russia began the Rhine Offensive with the intend on taking the rest of Germany and moving the war into France and Holland. Two Russian and one Czech army would assault the Coalition lines between Munster and Bonn. By now there were 750,000 French, Spanish, German, British, and Portuguese soldiers were defending this last stretch of the line for all it was worth. In a week of heavy fighting the front here hadn't moved out of the suburbs of the line of Rhineland cities.
That however wasn't the main line of attack despite the offensives name. No the main place Russia was attacking for a breakthrough was on the Dutch border which would take place six days after the offensive began the the Anglo-Dutch line was broken. Once the line here broke all of Northern Holland would fall in just over twenty-four hours. Following their victory over Coalition forces at the Battle of Zwolle on January 30 Russia was on the verge of taking Amsterdam. With the Russian breakthrough in Holland Coalition lines in Rhineland began to falter. By March Russian led forces were heavily engaged in the Battle of Amsterdam and on the border of Alsace Lorraine. Almost all of Germany was now under their control.
In Italy Russian led forces were continuing forward as well. Milan would fall on November 23 and the Russo-Hungarian-Yugoslavian split in two with one arm moving on Turin and the other on Genoa. On the southern front Bologna came under assault. For two weeks the Italians held the Russians in the Battle of Bologna but by mid November it had fallen. With Bologna in their hands Russian forces began preparing to go on the offensive deeper into Italy. On December 14 Russian forces began moving into the tiny city state of San Marino. It was here that the Italians made a new attempt to stop them. The Battle of San Marino would last for eight days and saw brutal fighting that nearly leveled the entire country. But here in San Marino the Italians weren't alone and had several divisions from Canada, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand and here a Coalition counteroffensive knocked the Russians back and at least temporarily stopped their thrust south.
In Piedmont however the Italians weren't having as good of luck. On January 14 Russia did what Germany never could achieve and captured the port city of Genoa cutting Italy in two. Further north the Battle of Turin would rage until January 27. With Turin captured Russian led forces now had control over nearly all of the Po Valley and Coalition forces here were pushed back nearly to the French border. With the Russian's driving so fast through Italy and Germany 175,000 German and Italian troops had withdrawn into the Alps. For months German and Italian Alpine troops were a thorn in Russia's side and like Jutland tied up most of an army. Though they eventually surrendered it would drain Russia and its allies of men and material for the next seven months.
With Istanbul to heavily fortified Greek and Bulgarian forces looked to invade Anatolia. On November 20 a Greek army and a Bulgarian army landing at Canakkale and Izmir. The two nations would face fierce resistance by Turkish forces and populace. It would take the rest of the year before Greek and Bulgarian forces finally connected their footholds. In January Greek forces started an offensive to capture the city of Bursa and make a good staging point to assault Istanbul from the east. For over a month Greek and Turkish forces bitterly fought one another in the Battle of Bursa. Though they would finally take the city they had been exhausted and were unable to push forward. Same held true for Bulgaria who captured Usak just a week earlier.
For the remainder of 1950 the Japanese war was mostly stagnate. With additional units arriving from home however general Patton had a lively spring planned in Japan. On February 4 Operation Blackjack began as 170,000 American, 70,000 Japanese, 10,000 New Zealander, and 25,000 Australian troops went on the assault. The plans were to take move around and cut off the Korean Expeditionary Force. The attack blew through the area where the Korean and North Japanese lines met and began rapidly moving northwest to encircle the Koreans. American led forces advanced more than thirty miles and captured nearly 100,000 North Japanese and Korean prisoners. It looked like the offensive would succeed in overtaking the Koreans. On March 17 however the offensive was halted after the eight day long Battle of Uonuma.