Alternate warships of nations

That has to be a typo. Peru is not going to be able to pay for the development of a unique gun as well as the two ships. Anyway the following text states they are 13.5" guns.
 
That has to be a typo. Peru is not going to be able to pay for the development of a unique gun as well as the two ships. Anyway the following text states they are 13.5" guns.

It's probably because the game doesn't have 13.5 inch but only has guns in full inches.
 
Also, these ship were built to counter Minas Gereria (hence the extra wings and speed) plus the Rio De Janeiro (which was laid down in the same year) , Rivadavia, and Almirante Latorre.
 
With those single turrets, I wonder if it would be better to mount them in a twin? A twin would give you an extra gun on the broadside, I cant see a centrally mounted twin having a much reduced arc of fire than a single. And also two single turrets in the middle of the hull would likely be a major weakpoint on the hull. This would also make the ship essentially a battlecruiser version of a Iron Duke. Which would be nice.
 
With those single turrets, I wonder if it would be better to mount them in a twin? A twin would give you an extra gun on the broadside, I cant see a centrally mounted twin having a much reduced arc of fire than a single. And also two single turrets in the middle of the hull would likely be a major weakpoint on the hull. This would also make the ship essentially a battlecruiser version of a Iron Duke. Which would be nice.
The double in the centerline was the plan originally but I couldn't fit it. So I went with two extra singles. Space on the deck issues
 
The double in the centerline was the plan originally but I couldn't fit it. So I went with two extra singles. Space on the deck issues
Backspace. The bane of any naval architect. Hull stress would be a bit of an issue though. Thats something I wish they would add to the game. That and the ability to make French tumblehome monstrosities like Hoche, and the ship which shall not be named.
jaereberry, jauegrebbeury?....oh I give up. The French language was the biggest middle finger they ever gave the rest of the world. If culture means having crazy grammar I will stick to Russian.
 
Backspace. The bane of any naval architect. Hull stress would be a bit of an issue though. Thats something I wish they would add to the game. That and the ability to make French tumblehome monstrosities like Hoche, and the ship which shall not be named.
jaereberry, jauegrebbeury?....oh I give up. The French language was the biggest middle finger they ever gave the rest of the world. If culture means having crazy grammar I will stick to Russian.
Thanks for the thought there. I actually wanted 10 X 14 inch (5 Centerline) guns on 30,000 tons but it didn't work out. Best I could do was that monstrosity.
Now to make a Chinese 7 inch nightmare
 
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Guizhou Class
In the aftermath of the 1931-1934 war between the US and Japan, China stood as a trusted ally with the US as its Republic government under the able leadership of Huang Sen with the military leadership of Wang Tsu to back it up. Despite Japan's defeat, the other European powers still loomed over the infantile nation with their own interests. As such, Wang Tsu would develop a new defense plan, designed not to defeat the European armies and navies in the field but in detail. The 12 strong Guizhou class, constructed in the US by shipyards still geared up from the war, was the centerpiece as they were combined flagships (until the 12 inch gunned Peking Class of 1942), commerce raiders and heavy cruisers. Armed with 7.1 inch railway guns utilizing similar ammunition as the army model, the vessels tried to make it up by wielding 15 of the guns with a strong secondary suite and a heavy AA suite (Eventually the 3 inch AA guns were removed and the 5 inch guns made DP models) for the time.

The speed was faster than some destroyer classes and with a decent armor set it was a threat to most light units. However, the pride and joy were the aerial and radios which could call in Chinese bombers from newly constructed airbases and use its speed to keep out of all but the fastest ships way.

This was put to the test when France declared a 'police action' in 1941 against the Republic over the protests of the US and UK when a destroyer of the Republic attacked a French Opium smuggler in waters off Vietnam. Guizhou and her sisters would engage the French colonial fleet without much issue. However, the French battlecruisers and heavy cruisers would arrive causing the vessels to retreat back into home waters under the umbrella of aircover.

The police action would end in a French defeat as the arrival of the Peking for China and defeat of an expeditionary force by Tsu's army coupled with the arrival of elements of the US and UK home fleets to show their displeasure caused France to abate.

While the Guizhou was successful in many respects, the failure to deter the 8 inch and 15 inch gunned heavy vessels would cause the Chinese government to regard them as failures. Despite this, they would end their days in 1962 acting as converted missile cruisers and communications vessels before disposal.


(An idea for a post alternate The Great Pacific War Chinese navy)
 
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New Jersey Class
In the aftermath of Japan's invasion of the Philippines, Japanese Socialist Takumi Kuasaka arrived in Hong Kong after evading the military police and delivered documents to the US pertaining to the Akagi and Kaga. The US was infuriated to discover that Akagi and Kaga were practically converted back to their original designs, the US Navy went from confidence in itself to worry as the two added Japanese battleships added thousands of pounds of metal against the navy. This would lead to Admiral Morrison's hasty decision for the Bonin invasion, in the aftermath of the fiasco the navy would order several new battleships.

One was the 2 strong 55,000 ton Montana class and the other being the 3 strong New Jersey class, all armed with spare 16"/50 MK2 guns. New Jersey would be an extreme advancement over past designs. With herculean effort, the shipyards managed to get them out several months ahead of the estimated 43 months leading to the Navy leadership rolling the die and misinformation leading to the japanese being unaware they were ready.

At Yap the Japanese would discover their mistake as New Jersey and her sisters appeared. Due to their inexperience they killed no ships, however they crippled Kaga and Ise allowing the Standards to finish them.

Post Yap, the design would be developed and as the Standards were scrapped their names were given to the new Battleships.

(Idea for the US reponse to Akagi and Kaga being reconverted in the Great Pacific war)
 
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This game looks interesting, how much will it cost when fully released? The website doesn’t say, but says it will be the same cost in the test and actual release.
 
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USS Serapis
The Greek Dreadnought Salamis had languished for nearly a decade and a half in legal hell. It seemed that it would be scrapped and no one would get anything satisfying out of her when Japan blew up the Panama Canal and the US decided to go on a buying spree. The Salamis was stop number one and the US offered the legal costs for both parties plus Salamis's costs to the Greeks to gain her. Both parties, tired and with the Greeks desiring to build up a fleet of small ships and planes with the money, accepted.

The Salamis was towed to New York where over a year and a half, she would become the USS Serapis, the Navys third largest carrier. Capable of handling 50 aircraft and around 24-25 knots, the ship did not excite the Admirals but compared to making a giant target for the Japanese to shoot, it was probably the best option.

Serapis first action would be to support the Truk invasion where the US Admiralty would discover her uses were varied. During the early morning, a Japanese cruiser submarine arose and began attacking the fleet (suspicon of issues with her buoyancy gear causing a premature attack). The small arms fire did little and the sub kept under heavier guns, as the sub manouvered to attack the transports, torpedo bombers and fighters with bombs and depth charges arrived.

The planes quickly dispatched the submarine (although damaging the USS Northampton in the process) and afterwards the US began sheepishly and feverently putting airplanes on anything that could float to combat the Japanese submarine campaign.

Serapis next action would be to launch airstrikes on Guam in support of a fake invasion to lure the Home Fleet out. Despite heavy anti air fire, the ship would lose only a few fighters.

Afterwards she would participate at Yap where Admiral McConnell proved his worth. Managing to get the location of the Japanese carrier forces, he managed to launch an all out attack before they even knew where he was.

Serapis and Rangers airstikes would cripple Hosho and Ryujo. Unfortunately, the Japanese would tail the strikes and launch a retaliation strike from the remaining two carriers. Although the attack was beaten off, new Japanese monoplane torpedo bombers would avoid the biplanes long enough to plunge 4 new oxygen torpedoes into Serapis sinking her in under 10 minutes.

The Japanese carrier force had shot it's bolt though, the US carrier fleet would return and sink the rest of the carriers before turning their attention to the Japanese battleships.

Post war, Serapis would have its name given to a new carrier to honor the destroyed vessel.
 
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The Greek Dreadnought Salamis had languished for nearly a decade and a half in legal hell. It seemed that it would be scrapped and no one would get anything satisfying out of her when Japan blew up the Panama Canal and the US decided to go on a buying spree. The Salamis was stop number one and the US offered the legal costs for both parties plus Salamis's costs to the Greeks to gain her. Both parties, tired and with the Greeks desiring to build up a fleet of small ships and planes with the money, accepted.

The Salamis was towed to New York where over a year and a half, she would become the USS Serapis, the Navys third largest carrier. Capable of handling 50 aircraft and around 24-25 knots, the ship did not excite the Admirals but compared to making a giant target for the Japanese to shoot, it was probably the best option.

Pretty cool idea, but I think the US could handle the converstion faster, tbh... maybe a year, depending on priorities.
 
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Majestic Class Battleship
After the Great Pacific War, the Royal Navy investigated the battle of Yap and were dismayed to discover that their fleet of older battleships wouldn't have enjoyed as much success as the Japanese due to the torpedo and bomber aircraft of the US. Furthermore, the US 1910 era Standard class Battleships were being replaced by 25-30 knot 16-inch battleships meaning they could dictate the range over their older ships. The Royal Navy decided to risk it, their planes were jokes compared to the new monoplanes of the US and Japan, the latter of whom was selling military tech to help pay its debts.

They pressed for four options:

1. A single gun to operate as a dual-purpose weapon of 5-6 inches.
2. Reclamation of the Fleet Air Arm to make sure it handled the development of its aircraft.
3. Replace the 15 inch and older vessels with 16-inch vessels similar to those of the G3 and N3 design.
4. Cheap aircraft carriers for colonial patrols.

The treasury would enjoy the ideas behind options 1-4 as it brought standardization and would replace aged and expensive to maintain cruisers. The latter would take half a decade of fighting until a summary of Yap was publicized by the US admiralty in 1936 revealing the role of Serapis and Ranger. The British public had also been slowly become unnerved as the Standards were replaced by Hood sized vessels with speed to match, once the discovery of how far ahead the US was in airplanes and aerial doctrine led to pushback against the RAF causing the FAA to return.

The Prime Minister also found himself under siege for letting the Royal Navy get into this state and letting the upstart RAF weaken the shield of the nation. Finally, nearly 700 million pounds were assembled to buy replacements for the 13.5 inch gunned vessels and several R class and buy two large carriers.
 
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Treaty Smashers
Japans plans for wars can be conclusively put at 1928 as that was the date Akagi and Kaga were brought back in for a 'deep' overhaul. The reality was that the Japanese nation was preparing for war with the US battlefleet. The conversion caused a small war in the admiralty as the Carrier admirals argued they needed the ships, especially with Lexington and Saratoga about, however, the battleship proponents won over the Admiralty heads.

The conversion took about 20 months and seemed to be unnoticed despite the oncoming storm of war until the efforts of Takumi Kuasaka revealed it to the signatories of the WNT, all of whom (save Japan) were convinced they had at least two to three years before Japan could pump out battleships. The revelation that Kaga and Akagi, both lengthened and with tonnage increases (In reality to strengthen them), was superior to most battleships.

Combined with the accidental Japanese bombing of HMS Hermes in the Chinese Sea (Due to being mistaken for the USS Curtiss) left Japan in a truly unenviable position. Furthermore, the conversion was not that successful due to an understandable lack of experience. However, the sheer amount of metal that could be thrown left them in a very strong position and when elements of the Royal Navy began to patrol in force, they would shadow the RN vessels which consisted of 15 inch WW1 era vessels.

However, the US push would lead to them being called upon.

In 1934, the battleships of the US and Japanese fleets arrived for their Decisive Battle. Immediately the Japanese realized something was wrong as the USS Arizona, Florida and Oklahoma (Reported destroyed by air attack) along with the New Jersey (Reported as half-completed) were discovered to be among the ships. The Japanese fleet, now outnumbered and outgunned, began to try to use its speed to attack the 14 and 12 inch battleships while its destroyers attacked. However, Rear Admiral Appletons screening forces prevented the latter from getting close while surprising US accuracy managed to inflict some major damage.

The Japanese admiral decided to pull back and fight at night where his fleet would be superior.

However, no one counted on the actions of the carrier fleet.

As twilight began to fall over a hundred carrier aircraft from the 8 US carriers arrived and hammered the battlefleet with gas bombs, bombs, and torpedoes. The strike lasted 2 minutes and 15 US aircraft were shot down. However, Kongo, Akagi, Kaga, Ise, and Hyuga had been struck by torpedoes while the rest of the battleships struggled with the effects of gas and destroyed secondary weapons.

The US battlefleet rushed forward at 20 knots and began to smash the wounded battleships. The rest of the fleet retreated leaving their comrades to their fates, two hours after night fell Akagi would finally slip beneath the waves.

However, the wounded battleships had fought hard as Nevada was declared a constructive loss and Florida destroyed in an ammo explosion.

Despite the losses, the US had defeated the Japanese decisively and the defeat would encourage the people of Japan to revolt causing the nation to ask for terms.

The Great Pacific War had ended.
 
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