"What Madness Is This?" - A Timeline

[Tsar of New Zealand]

Back in Scotland, Camp Baker secretly received a nuclear missile on July 4th, 1965...The computers had set the target on Rome...

Well, the three-minute warning should give the Pope and a few cardinals time to clear out, but as for St Peter's and he entirety of Rome...A Canticle for Leibowitz time, maybe? In the Madnessverse post-war/post-NUSA, it'd be beautifully ironic to see the New Rome erected in the ashes of Philly or Shicagwa

As for bombs, how's the state of the art? I mean, a bomb destroying Rio and killing three million implies some kind of megatonnage, although I can't see much of the area becoming too irradiated (the airburst necessary to devastate the widest area rather negates fallout, and vice-versa). Given that tech's meant to be about 20 years ahead of OTL, but the bomb was only developed in 1957, but allowing for NUSA's intense industrial complex...what are we dealing with, 1-3 megaton range? Seems reasonable for rocket delivery at this stage, considering a lack of wars before the World War to give weapons tech the necessary kick in the arse...but then, what do I know?

And between Worldwar, TL-191 and zombies...I'm keen (I can see Featherston crapping himself if his neighbours to north and south are replaced by California and the RU though )
EDIT: What about ISOTing Joe Steele's RU into OTL 1930s? Then we've a coalition of Brits, Nazis and maybe even Stalin facing off against an evil that'd make Hitler cringe...and give him ideas, but one monster at a time.

 

[lukedalton]

With the NUSA using Scotland as a base for ICBM, i see the United Nation retaliate with nuclear weapon in Perù and Cuba or even blockade the British Island.
Frankly a First Strike plan is the only option here, the NUSA are like a Terminator, you can't negotiated with it.

 

[Napoleon53]

Okay, we need some more obsessive world-building and terms. So, here are products the average citizen of the New United States would be well acquainted with, and their OTL equivalents. I want to come up with a few ads for some of these. I'm trying to make one for SPUD right now. Expect to see more about these companies and products in future chapters, especially in dialogue and quotes.

SPUD: Cheap, near-flavorless potato slices/cakes in a can, made by Horton Canning Co.. OTL equivalent: SPAM

Frosted Patriot Stars: Cheap, sugary breakfast cereal manufactured by the Scruggs Cereal Co.. OTL equivalent: Frosted Flakes

Cocoa-Ola: Cheap, watered down canned/bottled chocolate drink favored by the CYB and produced by the Goodyear Enterprises Food Divison. OTL equivalent: Yoohoo

Joe Bar: Tobacco-infused candy bar that "gives kids energy." Named in honor of Joe Steele by the Curtiss Candy Co. of Shicagwa. OTL equivalent: Hershey Bar, Baby Ruth bar

Rollarite Motors: Luxury American autocarriage company. OTL equivalent: Rolls Royce

Roosevelt Motors: Middle-class, sturdy family cars. OTL equivalent: Ford

Aeronite: Talkiebox, Picturebox, and plastic company. OTL equivalent: Zenith, Samsonite

More-For-Less: Mega grocery store chain. OTL equivalent: Walmart, Kmart, etc

West & Sons Drug Stores: Pharmacy and general store subsidiary of Goodyear Enterprises. OTL equivalent: Walgreens

Burgher Consul: Cheap, fast-food and drive-through, specializing in selling "hamburghers" and "Philadelphia Vienners" (hotdogs). OTL equivalent: Burger King, McDonald's

Horton Canning Company: Michigania-based maker of such culinary abominations and hated army rations as SPUD, Chef Curt's Canned Ravioli, Pounded Tomato Paste Product, and Hot Stuff Chili. OTL equivalent: Hormel, Chef Boyardee. Played a major part in feeding the American war machine during the 1950s-60s, and SPUD was used to feed the starving masses during the occupation of Britain. CEO is George Custer Horton, Oswald's mistress Mary-Jane Mundy's brother-in-law and the receiver of numerous government kickbacks.

Phoenix Oil Company: Massive, corrupt oil and gas station company based in Boston with a near monopoly on gas stations. In a secret corporate war with Goodyear Enterprises and possesses a massive private army of contractors that do its bidding at home and abroad, such as in Egypt and Italian North Africa. OTL equivalent: Exxon, Standard Oil, Mobilgas

Tasty Tube Cakes: Philadelphia-based snack company. Known for almost exclusively making tubular cakes (lard biscuits) with a cream filling in the center. Common breakfast item in every American home. Popular food with the NUSA Aeronautic and Space Corps. OTL equivalent: Little Debbie (Twinkies, etc), Hostess

Scruggs Cereal Company: New York-based monopoly on America's breakfast tables and producer of cereals like Frosted Patriot Stars and High-Hos. OTL equivalent: Kellogg, Post, General Mills

Sweet Victory: Sugary, caffeinated, clear, bottled soft drink containing numerous carcinogens and dangerous, addictive chemicals. Produced by the Sweet Victory Soda Company of Boston. Extremely popular among the troops and invented before the war as a competitor to the Southron Cokie-Cola. OTL equivalent: Sprite, 7-Up

^The Roosevelt Motors one was made ages ago and it violates some canon (that Americans listen to "swanky, twangy Johnny Cashew hits" is a clear violation of canon), so I just posted it for fun.
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[Napoleon53]

Bonus points to anyone who spots the Dr. Strangelove reference and the subtle, weird 1984 reference.

As for bombs, how's the state of the art? I mean, a bomb destroying Rio and killing three million implies some kind of megatonnage, although I can't see much of the area becoming too irradiated (the airburst necessary to devastate the widest area rather negates fallout, and vice-versa). Given that tech's meant to be about 20 years ahead of OTL, but the bomb was only developed in 1957, but allowing for NUSA's intense industrial complex...what are we dealing with, 1-3 megaton range? Seems reasonable for rocket delivery at this stage, considering a lack of wars before the World War to give weapons tech the necessary kick in the arse...but then, what do I know?

EDIT: What about ISOTing Joe Steele's RU into OTL 1930s? Then we've a coalition of Brits, Nazis and maybe even Stalin facing off against an evil that'd make Hitler cringe...and give him ideas, but one monster at a time.

I'm no atomic war expert, but I'd think the damage done the nearby environment would be pretty horrific, even with minimal fallout. Radiation alone would probably poison nearby water for a very long time.

That's an epic idea. I'll have to remember that one.

With the NUSA using Scotland as a base for ICBM, i see the United Nation retaliate with nuclear weapon in Perù and Cuba or even blockade the British Island.
Frankly a First Strike plan is the only option here, the NUSA are like a Terminator, you can't negotiated with it.

You may be exactly right. Once news gets out of the Scottish missile, there's going to be hell to pay.

 

[Avskygod0]

Dis gon b gud

 

[Napoleon53]

I was rather pleased with this logo, made from scratch. You'll be seeing more about POC and its intense rivalry with Goodyear Enterprises very soon, complete with corporate espionage, organized crime, secret societies, and corporate paramilitaries and private armies large enough to topple medium-sized governments.

 

[Tsar of New Zealand]

Bonus points to anyone who spots the Dr. Strangelove reference and the subtle, weird 1984 reference.

Okay, definite reference to Victory Gin as for Dr. Strangelove, is it a reference to General Ripper replenishing his precious bodily fluids?
To be honest, at this stage you could tell us Oswald's top strategists are Jack D. Ripper, Curtis LeMay and Dr Colossus, and nobody'd bat an eye

 

[Turquoise Blue]

Apparently Wales is not invaded. Good for us.

 

[Warpath]

Tobacco. In a candy bar... God help NUSA's dentists, I can already imagine the lines created by oh so many NUSA children because of cavity-ridden and rotting teeth.

Apparently Wales is not invaded. Good for us.

With the American Empire already beginning the assimilation of Scotland and England, it wont be for long... Well, that, or the English already conquered Wales and the *Americans took over once they crossed the former Scottish-English border. Or the *Americans consider Wales as part of England.

And the Yanks are launching a nuke in Rome, maybe some (sane) NUSA officer redirect the nuke to the middle of the Atlantic and have it detonate there instead. Sure the officer would be killed, but at least it would show the world that not every *American is either a unholy monster or a brainwashed drone.

 

[starwarsfan]

Just read this tl over the last 14 hours in full, cant believe how good it is

Well the world isnt good but you know what I mean

 

[Tprynn]

I've never been much of an irish patriot but reading about the Americans in Ireland is making my blood boil! I know it's a long shot but I desperately want them to fail. I don't care if it's a partitioned state under another mad dictator, I just want the Irish to be able to spit in NUSA's face for once.

Also, what's like like for the southrons in Cuba?

 

[Napoleon53]

Okay, definite reference to Victory Gin as for Dr. Strangelove, is it a reference to General Ripper replenishing his precious bodily fluids?
To be honest, at this stage you could tell us Oswald's top strategists are Jack D. Ripper, Curtis LeMay and Dr Colossus, and nobody'd bat an eye

Yep, that's it, and not only to Victory Gin, but also to the INGSOC logo.

Apparently Wales is not invaded. Good for us.

Nope, because they're under the protection of the Empire and an invasion would trigger atomic war.

Tobacco. In a candy bar... God help NUSA's dentists, I can already imagine the lines created by oh so many NUSA children because of cavity-ridden and rotting teeth.

And wash down your tobacco candy bar with a delicious and totally non-cocaine-y Sweet Victory soda!

Just read this tl over the last 14 hours in full, cant believe how good it is

Well the world isnt good but you know what I mean

Okay, WOW. That's awesome! Glad to have another dedicated reader on board.

I've never been much of an irish patriot but reading about the Americans in Ireland is making my blood boil! I know it's a long shot but I desperately want them to fail. I don't care if it's a partitioned state under another mad dictator, I just want the Irish to be able to spit in NUSA's face for once.

Also, what's like like for the southrons in Cuba?

Oh, it's definitely not going to be easy going in Ireland. Expect a very Vietnam-ish scenario, with thousands upon thousands of American soldiers killed by peasants and rebels.

I'll be covering Cuba before long.

 

[pieman97405]

And wash down your tobacco candy bar with a delicious and totally non-cocaine-y Sweet Victory soda!

But remember, Joe Bars, Victory Soda, and other sweets are not going to replace a good wholesome meal. And that meal should include Spud...

Sorry, couldn't resist making this.

 

[Napoleon53]

THE SPICE WAR OF 1964

Indonesian marines on the move near Manila (August 4th, 1964)

While the American invasion of Britain was unfolding, things were heating up in the Pacific. The Kingdom of the Philippines, and its ruler, Ignaas I, were becoming increasingly annoying to the white-supremacist Republic of Indonesia and the Kai Shek's Republic of China. Ignaas had made frequent threats and was constantly turning off his allies in the United Nations. Still, he would be under United Nations protection as long as he didn't become aggressive. But that's exactly what he did.

On August 4th, 1964, a ship of the Philippines Royal Navy stopped an Indonesian cargo ship... in Chinese waters. While the ships ended up going their own ways in peace, Ignaas' men had confiscated some 10 million dollars worth of "Illegal spices." This was a major international incident. China was furious that Ignaas had violated its waters and stolen millions of dollars worth of trade goods. Indonesia was furious because it was essentially an attack on one of its civilian vessels. Chancellor Theodoor Fabien Lucas got on the phone with Kai Shek and got the Chinese dictator to go along with Indonesia deploying its armed forces. China agreed to use its navy to blockade the northern coastline of the Philippines. Indonesia then sent the Republican Navy to go and steam into the harbor at Manilla and demand the return of the trade goods.

Ignaas went into full panic mode and realized he had gotten in way too far over his head. Just when he thought things couldn't get any worse, that night someone in the port fired a shot at an Indonesian sailor. The Republican Navy responded by sinking every Filipino vessel in sight and commencing a full shelling of Manilla. Republican Marines stormed the city and went to war. By morning, the Marines were almost to the Royal Palace and over 9,000 Filipino soldiers had been killed in combat, with only about 3,000 Indonesian casualties. Ignaas was narrowly able to flee the palace in time to go south, to Legaspi. Manila was to be a battleground for the next week, but the Indonesian victory was total.

Because of Ignaas' role as the aggressor, the United Nations was not in a position to come to his aid. Instead, the Indonesian armed forces calmly allowed UN peacekeepers in the Philippines to evacuate the war-zone and provided them with ships to get back home. Cornered at Legaspi, Ignaas was determined to fight to the death with his back to the sea. This did not really happen, though, as on August 15th, a run by Indonesian bombers blew up his fortress and killed him. The Kingdom of the Philippines was falling apart, and a second Indonesian invasion was hitting Zamboanga and Davao. Back in Manila, the Indonesian Army broadcasted over the pictureboxes the scene of bringing Ignaas' body back to the capital. They had him hung in chains over the harbor to rot, an 18th century punishment for piracy. Ignaas the Pirate-King was dead they said, and "peace will soon return to Asia."

Indonesian troops on the march near Cebu (September, 1964)
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Instead of peace, the war would continue, with Filipino nationalists and anarchists receiving backing and supplies from Beutelist Japan. It became readily apparent to the UN that the future of the Philippines belonged to either Indonesia or to anarcho-socialists, and seeing this they stopped supporting any side in the conflict. Indonesia was thrilled, and essentially had a field day in human rights violations. Thousands of Filipinos were raped, robbed, and shot for no reason as the white supremacist Indonesians thought them Inferior scumbags, almost on the level of animals. The Indonesian Army shut down all communication with the outside world via radio jammers. The only news that left the Philippines by that point was the news Indonesia wanted people to hear. The international community was powerless as Indonesia took complete control of the islands.

Meanwhile, China was having second thoughts about its support of Indonesia. Fearing an escalation to war, Kai Shek met with Chancellor Lucas in Hanoi on December 18th, 1964. There they signed the Chinese-Indonesian Non-Aggression Pact, guaranteeing each other neither would ever invade the other. Then, both countries went their separate ways and China turned it attention to Burma and Thailand...



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[Napoleon53]

But remember, Joe Bars, Victory Soda, and other sweets are not going to replace a good wholesome meal. And that meal should include Spud...

Sorry, couldn't resist making this.

Delicious, wholesome SPUD goes well with a side of Horton Brand Pounded Tomato Paste Product! Mush and paste, what a great combo!

 

[traveller76]

Companies

Are we going to come up with brands and companies for the Europeans or the Russians?

 

[doorcf]

Holy shit it is even worse the UN just lost a (not really important) ally damnit! I just want to write about Peruvian saving Filipinos but it is to far (yeah I'm a softie deal with it)

Hope that there is some peace, how are the Peruvian Missiles though?, also would you let me write about a Peruvian civil War?

 

[Jedi_Master_Kirito]

Or imagine a Madnessverse-set Superman timeline, like Red Son. Clark Kent becomes the Godlike emperor of NUSA. *screams of terror*

I like, I like.

 

[Napoleon53]

Are we going to come up with brands and companies for the Europeans or the Russians?

Sure, if anyone wants to for fun. I would, but I'm not good at other languages.

Hope that there is some peace, how are the Peruvian Missiles though?, also would you let me write about a Peruvian civil War?

The Peruvian Missiles have calmed down to a status quo, counter-balanced by the South African NUSA ICBM bases.

Peru is pretty stable right now and any civil unrest would be immediately quelled by the United Nations. If Peru would fall or break up, NUSA would almost certainly be invincible forever.

 

[Napoleon53]