Nice-looking: what program are you using?
Bruce,
who keeps promising himself he'll move beyond basic Paint one of these days
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Nice-looking: what program are you using?
Bruce,
who keeps promising himself he'll move beyond basic Paint one of these days
I would also like to know this. Looks like Inkscape to me but I'm not sure.
I did'nt know you were one of those types.
I'm just surprised that he didn't refer to it as "the GIMP" like so many do.
My first attempt at a map that is in any way "fancy"- the Themata of the Eastern Roman Empire towards the end of the eighteenth century. Tips on how to improve these clumsy first tries would be much appreciated. I'm using PaintShop.
Here is my final version of MONGOLWANK, or rather Mongliwank.
In 1281 the combined Mongolian-Korean forces manage to gain a foothold on the Japanese islands during their second attempt at an invasion instead of being crushed by a typhoon like OTL (so there is no kamikaze). The Mongols not only continued their conquest from that point on, they also managed to keep most of their Asian possesions, minus those in China, India and inbetween. From the Japanese islands, they even reached the Americas, after it was discovered by the Europeans, and conquered large parts of Northern America.
The world now is very interesting in the Chinese sense:
In Europe, France became the dominant power with strong support from its allies, the Scots, Florence, Poland-Prussia and Venice. The Empire of Spania is also an important French ally, so is Muscowy.
Germany has been united in the early 17th century by a nationalist movement known as the Hannoversche Bewegung, which gained strong support from many minor nobles, as well as the liberal king of Brunswick, Friedrich III. of Wettin, who became the first emperor after the end of the Holy Roman Empire after the German Civil War. Now Germany is allied with various European nations, including a strong bond with Hungary, England and the Dutch. Austria, which caused the German Civil War, is considered to be neutral.
In the north, Scandinavian Socialists proclaimed the United Scandinavian Socialist Republics, or USSR for short, after decades of suppression of the poor farmers and workers from the decadent aristocracy. Now Socialism is gaining popularity, especially in the Middle East and *South America.
ITLs Americas, called Atlantis, were first discovered by a Moor captain named Alexander of Cordoba, who converted to Christianity and sailed for the Spaniards. From that moment on, the Spaniards and the English heavily colonised the continent, with the Dutch, French and Germans gaining relativly minor holdings. Most colonies here already declared independence. However it should be noted that the Aztecs and the Maya were defeated by the English and gained incredible autonomy afterwards, while the Incan Empire and Chimor were never conquered. The most powerful Atlantican nations today are the Republic of Colombia (in OTLs Argentina), the Federal Republic of Georgia, the Empire of Altántida and the formerly Dutch state of Riverienland. Kébec is a weird nation, while it is technically independent from France, it still sees the French king as their head of state.
Asia and Oceania are very different because of the Mongolian hegemony, with only Delhi, the Madras Union and China rivaling the Mongols. Indonesia and Oceania were heavily colonized and almost evenly split between France and Spania. However, Bruneian pirates and the Sultanate of Acre, as well as the Mongol-influenced Majapahit Empire, resisted the invaders. India is mostly free, with only the French and English controling more than simple trading ports.
In the Middle East, Socialism spread recently, but there are also classic Islamic monarchies like Persia, Germiyan, Syria and Oman. The most interesting country still is, by far, the Bedouin Federation, whose nomads essentially discovered Anarcho-Communism. Other Socialist states are Trebizond and Georgia. Also, there currently is a civil war going on in Iraq between the Kurds in the North, the Royals, the Socialist Party and the Shi'a Free State in the south.
Africa is almost entirely colonised, except Ethiopia, which is a French puppet.
Socially the world is on the brink of a world war between the German-led International League and the French-led Imperial Entente. Radio and the telephone have been discovered and are widely used, so is the cinema. Regarding the mental attitude, it is very similiar to OTLs 1920s.
Last but not least I would like to thank B_Munro for both his inspirational value and his suggestions towards the concept of this world, especially the Cossack state and Brunei.
In 1281 the combined Mongolian-Korean forces manage to gain a foothold on the Japanese islands during their second attempt at an invasion instead of being crushed by a typhoon like OTL (so there is no kamikaze). The Mongols not only continued their conquest from that point on, they also managed to keep most of their Asian possesions, minus those in China, India and inbetween. From the Japanese islands, they even reached the Americas, after it was discovered by the Europeans, and conquered large parts of Northern America.
The world now is very interesting in the Chinese sense:
In Europe, France became the dominant power with strong support from its allies, the Scots, Florence, Poland-Prussia and Venice. The Empire of Spania is also an important French ally, so is Muscowy.
Germany has been united in the early 17th century by a nationalist movement known as the Hannoversche Bewegung, which gained strong support from many minor nobles, as well as the liberal king of Brunswick, Friedrich III. of Wettin, who became the first emperor after the end of the Holy Roman Empire after the German Civil War. Now Germany is allied with various European nations, including a strong bond with Hungary, England and the Dutch. Austria, which caused the German Civil War, is considered to be neutral.
In the north, Scandinavian Socialists proclaimed the United Scandinavian Socialist Republics, or USSR for short, after decades of suppression of the poor farmers and workers from the decadent aristocracy. Now Socialism is gaining popularity, especially in the Middle East and *South America.
ITLs Americas, called Atlantis, were first discovered by a Moor captain named Alexander of Cordoba, who converted to Christianity and sailed for the Spaniards. From that moment on, the Spaniards and the English heavily colonised the continent, with the Dutch, French and Germans gaining relativly minor holdings. Most colonies here already declared independence. However it should be noted that the Aztecs and the Maya were defeated by the English and gained incredible autonomy afterwards, while the Incan Empire and Chimor were never conquered. The most powerful Atlantican nations today are the Republic of Colombia (in OTLs Argentina), the Federal Republic of Georgia, the Empire of Altántida and the formerly Dutch state of Riverienland. Kébec is a weird nation, while it is technically independent from France, it still sees the French king as their head of state.
Asia and Oceania are very different because of the Mongolian hegemony, with only Delhi, the Madras Union and China rivaling the Mongols. Indonesia and Oceania were heavily colonized and almost evenly split between France and Spania. However, Bruneian pirates and the Sultanate of Acre, as well as the Mongol-influenced Majapahit Empire, resisted the invaders. India is mostly free, with only the French and English controling more than simple trading ports.
In the Middle East, Socialism spread recently, but there are also classic Islamic monarchies like Persia, Germiyan, Syria and Oman. The most interesting country still is, by far, the Bedouin Federation, whose nomads essentially discovered Anarcho-Communism. Other Socialist states are Trebizond and Georgia. Also, there currently is a civil war going on in Iraq between the Kurds in the North, the Royals, the Socialist Party and the Shi'a Free State in the south.
Africa is almost entirely colonised, except Ethiopia, which is a French puppet.
Socially the world is on the brink of a world war between the German-led International League and the French-led Imperial Entente. Radio and the telephone have been discovered and are widely used, so is the cinema. Regarding the mental attitude, it is very similiar to OTLs 1920s.
Last but not least I would like to thank B_Munro for both his inspirational value and his suggestions towards the concept of this world, especially the Cossack state and Brunei.
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Thanks, Iserlohn!
(Bedouin Anarch-Socialists? The mind boggles. Presumably they're all about redistributing property among themselves - other people's property).
Here's a map I did for this thread:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=157194&page=2
Which I thought I'd post here. Basically, the US never gets into WWI, a somewhat better prepared *Michael fails, and things drag on until it becomes a matter of "who collapses first". (Italy essentially does, and requires large number of British Empire troops to keep the country afloat). The Left is increasingly radicalized, and things finally collapse into revolution. France and the UK are too exhausted (and in the case of France, at the point of social revolution itself) to pursue the "liberation" of Germany beyond the Rhineland. Eventually, an armistice of sorts is worked out with the US working as a neutral in-between, which leaves nobody really happy.
Turkey implodes in 1919, and gets a more ruthless carve-up than OTL, which as of 1925 is looking a bit unwise. Mussolini is even more than OTL hailed as the man who saved Italy from Red Revolution, and with a bit more justification.
Meanwhile, in Russia, the Whites have managed to emerge on top, and a shaky new Russian Empire with a figurehead Czar, an uneasy balance of power between military and Duma, and continued unrest in Central Asia and among the urban poor struggles to consolidate itself.
(The Association of Nations is a League of Nations equivalent, and usually just as ineffective, although the Association control of the Danzig-Polish corridor area does have the benefit of pissing off both sides equally...)
Bruce
(Bedouin Anarch-Socialists? The mind boggles. Presumably they're all about redistributing property among themselves - other people's property).
Here's a map I did for this thread:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=157194&page=2
Which I thought I'd post here. Basically, the US never gets into WWI, a somewhat better prepared *Michael fails, and things drag on until it becomes a matter of "who collapses first". (Italy essentially does, and requires large number of British Empire troops to keep the country afloat). The Left is increasingly radicalized, and things finally collapse into revolution. France and the UK are too exhausted (and in the case of France, at the point of social revolution itself) to pursue the "liberation" of Germany beyond the Rhineland. Eventually, an armistice of sorts is worked out with the US working as a neutral in-between, which leaves nobody really happy.
Turkey implodes in 1919, and gets a more ruthless carve-up than OTL, which as of 1925 is looking a bit unwise. Mussolini is even more than OTL hailed as the man who saved Italy from Red Revolution, and with a bit more justification.
Meanwhile, in Russia, the Whites have managed to emerge on top, and a shaky new Russian Empire with a figurehead Czar, an uneasy balance of power between military and Duma, and continued unrest in Central Asia and among the urban poor struggles to consolidate itself.
(The Association of Nations is a League of Nations equivalent, and usually just as ineffective, although the Association control of the Danzig-Polish corridor area does have the benefit of pissing off both sides equally...)
Bruce
I love the map, but there are some problems in it. The biggest is that Kansas and Kansas State are not allowed in be in different conferences. They would have to stay together and I don't think the Big Ten would want K-State. Also I think if the Big Ten is going to expand by more than one they are going to grab Rutgers. The whole goal is add new media markets because they get 51% of all Big Ten Network Revenue. Getting Rutgers means New York City which means 51% of all those cable subscribers.
Neat map! I like international control of the Danzig Corridor, and I feel sad for Turkey
. I like the French-puppet Rhineland, as well. I wonder, though, why no French attempt at a Christian Lebanon like IRL?I agree, though honestly they'll probably just grab Nebaska, leave Mizzou out in the cold and have an even 12 team conference with a championship game. Only two teams can call their shots on entering the Big 10; Notre Dame and Texas. Since Texas will never happen and Notre Dame won't do squat as long as they have their NBC deal and all those sweet independence perks...they'll be content with Nebraska for now.
The Kansas' were more to make the map interesting
Neat map! I like international control of the Danzig Corridor, and I feel sad for Turkey
No US participation in the war, no Wilson's 14 points: Syria is all under direct French control (the Association of Nations does not give out Mandates) and therefore no need to seperate Lebanon from a Syria less securely in their ownership.
Bruce
Makes sense. Is "Northern Arabia" or whatever then a British puppet under Faisal, or is it a full on British colony? (I assume Palestine is some variety of colony).
Puppet monarchy and colony, respectively. (The Hejaz is also a puppet, but the British are currently wondering if propping it up is more trouble than it's worth.)
Bruce
From my current project;
The War Aims of the Axis.
* Colored nations represent the Axis nations and places where their was major Axis support*.
* Light grey nations are puppets.
* White-Grey nations are places that the Axis did'nt care about so long as they were'nt trying anything funny.
* The English channel was to become 'Axis waters', that is a zone controlled by the Axis where the British,
French and a few others were forbidden from having anything but civil ships in.
Notes;
1. Colombia, Chile, Imperial China and Thailand were Axis members, and their were pro-Axis movements in India,
however they are'nt shown as, with the exception of Chile, the core Axis had no intention of actually supporting them.
The War Aims of the Axis.
* Colored nations represent the Axis nations and places where their was major Axis support*.
* Light grey nations are puppets.
* White-Grey nations are places that the Axis did'nt care about so long as they were'nt trying anything funny.
* The English channel was to become 'Axis waters', that is a zone controlled by the Axis where the British,
French and a few others were forbidden from having anything but civil ships in.
Notes;
1. Colombia, Chile, Imperial China and Thailand were Axis members, and their were pro-Axis movements in India,
however they are'nt shown as, with the exception of Chile, the core Axis had no intention of actually supporting them.
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It had its own internal problems in the early 20th century, leading to a politicaly volatile situation, which allowed a German-backed
coup in the early 30's to be successful.
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