WI: The Aztecs beats the Spanish...

...then collapses in on itself. All it’s vassals breakaway, and the entirety of Mesoamerica is Balkanized. What’s left of the Aztec Empire are the original triple alliance city-states. What’s left is a power vacuum, but what Mesoamerican state can fill this void?

What Mesoamerican state could unify the region into it’s own empire?
Would the Spanish return in force or do it diplomatically?
Could the Original Aztec Triple alliance reform into an empire(hypothetically called the Mexica Empire)?
Would other Europeans interfere in Mesoamerica?
How would this effect Spanish Exploration?
How would new technology effect the area?
 
I think a Pod after cortes’ Landing automatically means the Spanish come to dominate Mesoamerica within maybe 50 or 60 years if we are generous.

Spanish explorers are going to continue to arrive and exploit tensions, I think the small Nahua city states and factions will just be played off eachother by Spaniards.

I think with this pod the best option you have Is the Tarascan empire and maybe smaller states to the south like the zapotecs become more powerful and resist Spanish colonisation for far longer.
 

marathag

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Winning once doesn't help, see Custer and Little Bighorn.

The Spanish and Portuguese adventurers will still keep coming, with larger and larger forces.

Cortez and Pizarro were not the first to attempt what they did.
 
If Cortes fails and perishes in Mexico with all his troops, the Spanish will in turn send a larger contingent with even more men and equipment about 10 or 20 years later to finally subjugate the Aztecs, but not before securing a number of alliances with the Aztecs' enemies first. They will need these advantages too, because now the Aztecs know what to expect, what the Spanish can do, and will be far more difficult to displace and conquer. It will become a long, brutal, and bloody subjugation too.
 
What needs to also happen is for the Anti-Spanish Tlaxcalans to gain root and dominate Tlaxcala. Then the door into taking Mexico would be a much slower process. By then though the butterflies would still run rampant.

The wars Spain fights in Europe will already become affected by the change in fortune. The Trans-Pacific Trade will be pushed back, perhaps even the conquest of the Inca will be a less favorable thing as the Conquistadors will be cutting their teeth in Mexico.
 
Balkanized Mexico is more like fighting the Maya, which went on until 1697. It's a many headed hydra rather than the Dragon of the triple alliance.

Each state needs to be taken one by one. Mexicans of various stripes gain horses at some point probably and some abandon "civilization" becoming more like the Apache and Navajo, being decentralized. Smallpox and co speed this up as cities take it harder like village indians lose out to nomads like on the great plains and the Southwest.

Basically the Spanish have a much harder time. Basically Cortez faced ideal circumstances for a clean Spanish victory. The longer Mexico is partially unconquered the harder it becomes. They probably still "win" but it is a victory with more compromise to native customs, religion etc. Basically more like New Mexico or the Yucatan.
 
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