The Land of Sad Songs – Stories From Protect and Survive Finland


Addendum I. The Visual Evidence, Vol. II

Editor's Note: This is a limited sample of the photographs from the Minne 1984 Photographic Collection. The collection is currently held in its entirety by the Uppsala University Library, and the collection catalogue is available for all interested parties at the Carl XVI Gustaf Library, Dag Hammarskjölds väg 1, Uppsala.

Numbering carries over from Volume I.


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Picture 11. Hanging out. Local youth at the Kittilä Teboil station in the summer of 1983. The survivors from this generation would carry some of the heaviest duties of reconstruction after the War of 1984.


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Picture 12. Veteran diplomat Max Jakobson in a 1983 press photo. After the war, Jakobson's role in rebuilding Finnish communications and relations with Sweden and the other surviving governments of Europe was vital for the work of the Finnish Emergency Cabinet.


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Picture 13. Youth in revolt. Pori-based Dingo, fronted by Pertti Neumann (right), was one of the up-and-coming rock bands in Finland prior to the War. The single Sinä ja minä from January 1984 was the band's last recording.


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Picture 13. Volunteer firefighters at a pre-War training exercise in Taivalkoski in Northern Finland. Members of the volunteer fire departments played an important role in most functional municipal Civil Defence organizations in 1984 and later.


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Picture 14. Go for the gold. Young ski jumper Matti Nykänen won the Ski Jumping World Cup in the winter of 1982-83 and was considered one of Finland's best hopes for the cancelled 1984 Sarajevo Winter Olympics.


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Picture 15. Hanoi Rocks, the ambassadors of Finnish rock music. The 1982 album Self Destruction Blues, first released in the British market, was well received both critically and commercially. The projected 1984 American tour had to be cancelled due to war fears.


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Picture 16. Called to arms. New conscripts begin their service at the Oulu garrison in the fall of 1983. These young men would be trained as AA gun crews.


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Picture 17. Propared for war. Finnish Jäger troops riding Swedish-made Bandvagn 206 all-terrain vehicles in the Independence Day parade in Oulu in December 1983. In a planned display of defensive capabilities, each Military Province held its own parade on that day.


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Picture 18. A Signals unit reservist posing with his vehicle during the mobilization. Somewhere in North Karelia, January 1984.


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Picture 19. Armored fist. The obsolete Charioteer tank destroyers were used by the Finnish Army against the Soviet Army holdout during the so-called Battle of Porvoo in the spring of 1984. Photographed at an early 80s training exercise.


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Picture 20. A coffee and a sweet roll. Provincial troops reservists take a break during exercises. Jyväskylä, January 1984.


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Picture 21. Raising steam. A handful of old but functional steam locomotives has been used in Finland for many years after the war. Here is Hr1-series No. 1004 seen at the Pieksämäki rail yard in late summer 1984.


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Picture 22. The path of the fathers. Bicycle troops during the mobilization, late December 1983. From a pre-War documentary held at the FNA archives.


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Picture 23. Military area. Many parts of the FNA territories are still in 2013 closed off by the military, considered too hazardous to enter because of radiation or infrastructural damage. Järvenpää in the former capital area.



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Picture 24. The nature is slowly taking over the abandoned, restricted areas. The old K-Market and residential buildings in Järvenpää in the former capital area.


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Picture 25. A war-era gas mask found among the abandoned buildings. Järvenpää in the former capital area.


 
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All right, that was a fantastic choice of photos ! :D Thanks, I've already included this in the media section.

Did you doctor the last three photos ? I'm guessing the answer is "Yes". ;)

You have a minor typo under the photo of the railroad maintenance trainees. Surely it should be "...at a pre-War training exercise...".

BTW, what type is that army truck with the soldier resting on its fender ?
 
All right, that was a fantastic choice of photos ! :D Thanks, I've already included this in the media section.

Thank you.


Did you doctor the last three photos ? I'm guessing the answer is "Yes". ;)

That obvious, eh? I was rather proud of how well the K-sign blends in to Picture 30...;)

Obviously, the last three pictures are from Chernobyl.


BTW, what type is that army truck with the soldier resting on its fender ?

I believe it is a Soviet-made GAZ-66 truck, used in Finland since the early 70s. More specifically, the one in the picture should be a mobile HQ radio vehicle.

The vehicles and weapons in these pictures are something of a microcosm of Finnish Cold War military acquisitions - a Soviet truck, a British tank, a Swedish all-terrain vehicle, Finnish-made assault rifles that are an improved version of the Soviet AK-47 - stuff from East and West and domestic production in a roughly 33-33-33 proportion was the semi-official model for procurements, in line with the aspersions towards neutrality.
 
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Obviously, the last three pictures are from Chernobyl.

I figured as much. :)


I believe it is a Soviet-made GAZ-66 truck, used in Finland since the early 70s. More specifically, the one in the picture should be a mobile HQ radio vehicle.

Yeah, it looks the part.

The vehicles and weapons in these pictures are something of a microcosm of Finnish Cold War military acquisitions - a Soviet truck, a British tank, a Swedish all-terrain vehicle, Finnish-made assault rifles that are an improved version of the Soviet AK-47 - stuff from East and West and domestic production in a roughly 33-33-33 proportion was the semi-official model for procurements, in line with the aspersions towards neutrality.

That's part of what I adore about Finland's military tradition. :D You weren't a very picky nation during the late 30s and WWII either ! ;) Though that was more out of necessity.
 
Nice set of photoes. Especially liked the Charioteer; I believe the Finnish Army held them in reserve stocks until 2007. :eek:

Their hulls were sold then, but they were used as practice targets in AT shooting ranges for years before that.
 
Nice set of photoes. Especially liked the Charioteer; I believe the Finnish Army held them in reserve stocks until 2007. :eek:

The Charioteer was in training use until 1979-1980 when it was offícially retired and the tanks were put in storage. ITTL, some were reactivated for training troops during the mobilization in late 1983 and some for defending important locations such as airfields in the interior, dug in. The handful the improvised Finnish "brigade" uses around Porvoo were drawn from these uses - and most of those were knocked out or immobilized, etc, before the Armored Division remnants with T-55s and T-54s came to the rescue in the latter part of the fighting.
 
Thought for quite some time that the Charioteer was quite a cool vehicle. Never saw active service with the British Army, but was used by various factions in the Lebanese Civil War and the 1978 South Lebanon War. Am quite tempted to include Finnish examples somewhere in my own TL.
 
I look at the burned land
As I march towards the north
The drumbeat won't stop
It will own your soul
A long ago a small people
Dreamt of this land
Now only a burned land
Is shovelled into graves by men
The songs will continue their revolt
Against the will of the lords
If you ask ”what revolt?”
Go to the sea shores
And stay with an evil demon through a black storm
When the seas are there no more
Then you will see Hell

Chorus:

Like a hundred brave ships sailed to break hearts
Those hundred brave ships had a very loyal crew
And a hundred brave ships sailed towards Tierra del Fuego
And a hundred brave ships sailed proudly by my side

The full moon is so bright
I am afraid to fall to sleep
The dreams of a burned land
Make me anxious at night
The weapons won't rise to war
Words are enough to fight
A hundred ships will sail here
The graves will finally collapse

Chorus:

Like a hundred brave ships sailed to break hearts
Those hundred brave ships had a very loyal crew
And a hundred brave ships sailed towards Tierra del Fuego
And a hundred brave ships sailed proudly by my side

Like a hundred brave ships sailed to break hearts
Those hundred brave ships had a very loyal crew
And a hundred brave ships sailed towards Tierra del Fuego
And a hundred brave ships sailed proudly by my side

Dingo: Sata rohkeaa laivaa (1985)


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The M/S Finnmerchant outside Rauma in June 1984. The Swedish National Archives.




XLIX. Lifeboats

Fragment 179.
Logged 02.01.2012
JON


[This fragment is an excerpt from an autobiographical account written by [REDACTED](M233).]


We were three weeks out from Gothenburg, almost across the Atlantic now. The small convoy of ships moved slowly through the seemingly endless bank of thick fog. From the bridge of the ship, one could hardly see the outline of the Swedish tanker in front of us, looming just as a bit darker patch of space in the omnipresent white fog. Out on the deck, you could hear voices carrying over from the other ships, though, as it was also dead calm. The surrounding whiteness was making everyone somewhat jumpy and people had perhaps unknowingly started speaking in a lower voice when outside on the deck, as if not to wake the sleeping gods of the ocean.

The flotilla of six civilian vessels, four cargo ships and two tankers, was escorted by a single Swedish Halland-class destroyer.[1] One tanker, the one without the Red Cross markings, had guns bolted to the deck and carried shoulder-fired AA missiles. All ships had a small complement of Swedish Navy soldiers aboard, but only those on the Halland and the tanker were armed. At the beginning of the journey, on the North Sea and through the English Channel we were escorted by a Royal Navy destroyer, the HMS Bristol, a reminder that an organized government still held sway on those wind-swept islands off the European mainland. That was of course more that could be said for much of Europe at that time. The British ship moved along with us, but still kept its distance. It made us wonder whether they considered us entirely friendly – perhaps they were expecting the Red Cross-marked Relief Flotilla turn out any minute to be a part of a nefarious if belated Soviet plan of taking over the British Isles under a false flag.

Sometime after the Azores the British then left us, unceremoniously, to continue our way towards the New World alone. It was only some time after the Bristol turned away we came across the big American ship coming the other way – the USS Texas. That chance encounter proved beneficial to us in the end, even if at the time we were quite sure the Americans would open fire on the Halland thinking it is a Soviet vessel – there was after all no conceivable reason of a Swedish warship being this far west.

Joining the crew of the Finnmerchant had been really a no-brainer. As soon as the request for volunteers came through the Swedish aid mission, me and [REDACTED] agreed that we should join up. It was finally something in what we could use our naval training to an advantage, and [REDACTED] had worked on cargo ships before – he used to write songs about it. Of course Petty Officer [REDACTED] was in along the plan, and with his contacts it was finally easy for us to get a go-ahead from our erstwhile military commander and be accepted among the crew.

And so when the Finnmerchant set out from the port of Rauma, to join a Swedish Navy ship waiting just off the coast to escort the ship across the Baltic and through the now-treacherous Straits to Gothenburg where the Flotillas were assembled for their journeys, we three were on board the ship, ready for an adventure on the high seas – scrubbing the decks for radioactive fallout, in the Swedish protective suits we had been issued.

The ship's quarters were crowded – the Finnmerchant was new and had spacey interiors for a ro-ro ship, as well as 12 passenger berths, but still the number of men (and a few women) crammed aboard made made the ship seem much fuller than was comfortable. This was further accentuated when we came across a foundering French sailing boat and picked up five men who had tried to make it across the Atlantic, leaving from the vicinity of St. Nazaire for South America in search of a better life - or, well, a life - but had been been caught up in a storm. All the men were isolated in the small sick bay for days – and as it turned out, three of them were beyond help. We buried them at sea, in canvas bags weighed down with debris, and the Swedish marines fired a salute with their rifles.

There were strange things floating on the Atlantic, then, mementos of the nuclear war. You wouldn't believe me if I told you. Some of them still cause me nighmares... After the incident with the French, we didn't come up any survivors, though, which made it a bit easier for us. Now, dont' get me wrong - but our ships were marked with the Red Cross - we would have been pretty much obligated to help.

Now the ships had all but stopped. We were getting close the Eastern reaches of the Caribbian, south of Bermuda, and we were waiting. All was still, white and eerily peaceful. Nobody dared joke about the Bermuda Triangle. Finally, we could also visually confirm the dot seen approaching us on the Finnmerchant's radar as a ship – armed, perhaps, but friendly, as far as we knew. Turned out the ship was as white as the surrounding air when we saw the bow dive out of the fog to the starboard – not more than 200 meters off.

As agreed, the ship stopped and lowered a boat, which then approached us and three men were taken aboard. I was among the men helping them up to the deck – one officer and two ordinary sailors in uniform. After they removed their protective clothing, all looked worse for wear than we were, with worn, unkempt uniforms and stubbled cheeks, but professional and, well, functional none the less. They were taken to the Captain and the Swedish Fänrik[2] leading the ship's armed detachment.

The Petty Officer later told me how the meeting at the captain's quarters went down. I don't know if he was there himself, or if it was second hand knowledge.

The visitors were taken to the captain, who then introduced himself and Fänrik Gustafsson, upon which the American officer made a salute and then held out his hand.

- Lieutenant Klein, United States Coast Guard. We got the word through the Texas. Damn good to see you Swedish and Finnish guys here. Damn good to see anyone from Europe alive. We were starting to feel lonely, truth to be told.”

He kept pumping the captain's hand with his own.

- So, to the point - what are you selling?”

That took the captain off guard.

- I am sorry, Lieutenant, selling?”

The American made a face.

- Well, the ship is called Finnmerchant – get it? Finns – off – selling – stuff.”

Finally the captain smiled.

- No, Lieutenant, we're not selling anything. We're rather buying, food, fuels, those sort of things. But here we are, now, because we have a gift for you.”

Klein smiled.

- I think I have an idea what you're talking about.”

As if on que, the door opened and two men entered. The older man entered the room first, starting to address the captain when he saw the Americans in the room. Both the new arrivals and Klein stood to attention and made a salute.

- I'm Lieutenant Klein, United States Coast Guard. Who do I have the honour of addressing?”

- At ease, Lieutenant. My name's Rochelle - Major Ralph Rochelle, and this here's Captain Norman Rittinen. We're Air Force, even if you couldn't decipher that from our current get-ups. Good to see you, after all these damn Finns and Swedes. Don't get me wrong, they're good people, mostly, but you know these Nordics – a bit dull, most of the time.”

He was smiling as he spoke, obviously making a jest.

Klein smiled, too, and shook hands with both men.

- Major, Captain, welcome back to the United States of America. Such as it is. You will not like much of it.”

His smile had disappeared in mid-sentence.

- Get your men together, and gather up your stuff. We'll start taking you to the Bear as soon as you're ready. The Captain will give you a small briefing when we get aboard – but for now, I'll have to talk with the officers of the Finnmerchant here.”

The Petty Officer told me that when the American airmen left the cabin, they looked like they were not sure whether they should smile or not.

In some hours after these events, we continued our journey, now towards the south. We were hoping that was where we could find what we were looking for.


Interview nr. 317, 05.07.2011. JEF.
Subject: Man, 49 (M177)
Occupation in 1984: Politician
Location: [REDACTED], Central FNA.


[Interview with a former FNA bureaucrat resumed.]


[I think we were up to the beginning of August in the summer of 1984 the last time we spoke. Do you have any recollections from those days you would like to share with us now?]

Sure, why not? I have spilled my guts to you for so long, so why stop now? Let's see, the beginning of August – high summer 1984... Like they use to say, the summer was cold and there was just a little snow. A figure of speech, of course – there was no snow in August, yet. It was soon harvest season, and there was a lot of talk of food and so forth... A lot of meetings I took part in.

I can remember this particular meeting, a week or so before the peace treaty would be signed in Munich. Jakobson had been giving us frequent reports of the events that unfolded in Germany, through the Swedish filter as usual, and we were all relieved that the situation had been diffused. Jakobson had just reported that he would be joining the Swedish delegation on their plane bound for the signing of the treaty in Munich, and he had been empowered to act on behalf of the Finnish Emergency Cabinet as well as the Seinäjoki Parliament – all the official credentials you could hope for as a Finnish representative in summer 1984 and then some.

The discussion that day was mostly about military matters. We talked about the creation of new military police units, a decision that Kanninen saw as crucial for maintaining order in the areas outside the heart of the Emergency Cabinet's orderly domain. Predictably, Suonio was against it, and this time she was supported by Voutilainen who probably saw the move as dangerous to his position as Minister of the Interior. Minister of Defence Kanninen and General Halonen however had turned Lipponen's head to support his side of it, and as Kairamo also agreed, the military was in effect again given more power over the civilian police authorities.

At this time, the system of military liaison officers sent to serve with the the municipal Civil Defence organizations' local leadership was also more or less made official – originally it was only a temporary ”reclamation and reconstruction” expedient, but as you know now the Municipal Liaison system is seen as one of the basic features of the military-civilian nature of the National Committee's rule.


They were all rational decisions, you see, and often necessary, too. Relying on the military system was a shortcut when the civilian government was in tatters. ”When the emergency is over”, we thought, ”then we rebuild the civilian state in its pre-War image”.

We even might have done that, had things gone differently. If only...

[Subject shakes his head.]

Who am I kidding? Maybe it was always supposed to go down this way? Maybe a return to real democratic forms was never a real option all these years?

I don't know.

The Acting had started to be absent from the meetings more often. Even when he was there, he seemed absentminded. I believe he was losing his strength, and perhaps he was somewhat depressed, too. He wouldn't miss his radio addresses, though, but they were also a bit gloomy as of late – when he spoke about the here and now, that is. Given the prevalent mood among the people, I doubt anyone noticed he wasn't exactly exuberantly optimistic, though.

I took to listening to the broadcasts more often those days, as he rarely asked me to help in writing them, then, often making his remarks off the cuff. He was now talking about the future more often, painting it as a return to something like a golden age of Finland – an illusionary golden age, necessarily, but it was a powerful vision or so I thought at the time. I believe many people still love him for that illusion of a return to normalcy and prosperity. It made for a good bedtime story – when it didn't depress the hell out of you, of course, to compare it to the circumstances of your actual existence.

He hadn't quite recovered from the stabbing wound, and had to see a doctor for checkups. That might have weighed on him, too – I organized so that I had to often visit the hospital where he had been patched up, for various things. There was this young, dark-haired nurse from Lapland who I had a crush on. She wasn't interested in me, thought – she got engaged to an Air Force officer some months later I think. My boss must have thought I cared a lot for his well-being, going out of my way like that...

[Subject pauses for a moment.]

Anyway, it was just a few days later from the meeting I just spoke about, when the Acting came to my office – I had one now – closed the door and told me of his plans.

[Subject scratches his head and stares into nothing for a while.]


[What was his plan?]

Well, yes. He told me about how we should go about rebuilding the civilian government and democratic system.

- [REDACTED]”, he said to me, ”as soon as the worst crisis is open, we'll have parliamentary elections. It will not be perfect, but we can do it. And when the new parliament convenes here in Mikkeli, I'll have cabinet negotiations and appoint a majority cabinet. I have no idea who will lead it, but be it who it may, that will be the necessary first step.”

He looked at me with a faint smile on his face.

- And as soon as the new parliament is up and running, I'll order presidential elections. Direct popular vote – I am sure the new parliament will agree on it. On the night of the elections, as soon as a winner is confirmed, I'll step down as Acting President.”

Now, for the while, he looked almost like his pre-War self, with a driven look in his tired eyes.

- I can tell you this when we are alone here – I am sick and tired of being - acting President.”

He looked at me intently.

- I know somebody must do it. And I understand the idea behind all that ”Face of Continuity” stuff, I do. But I think it is still too much for someone who never seeked it, never even considered it before the War. Under the circumstances.”

I nodded. I knew, perhaps better than most others, save perhaps Rinne who had known him for years, how the responsibilities and the whole horror that was post-War Finland were weighing on the Acting President. He was a very different man from the young, energetic Minister of Labour who had started in that job just the year before, promising right off the bat to end joblessness in Finland in six months..

[Subject smiles ruefully.]

Come to think of it... There were probably were few unemployed people in Finland in August 1984 – so in some way, at least, he had almost kept his promise. I wouldn't have told it to him then, though...

But then the Acting continued to talk, and he pulled his chair closer to my table.

- I am putting together a wide-based work group to plan for the reconstruction of the civilian administration, and I want you to work in it. A minor role, initially, but you will grow into it.”

I was surprised, and asked him why he was thinking of me.

- You are of the generation that will rebuild Finland. Oh, I am not so old myself, granted. But I feel I am not up to it – I am so tired... You still have your strength with you, and you have seen how our government has worked through this spring and summer – you are a very good choice for a junior member.”

I think I was too young to have the strength to decline, then. And I have to agree his trust in me made me feel important.

- I think we'll call it... The Planning Group for Continuation of Government – what do you think? A suitably unglamorous and bureaucratic name, right?”

It was. Unglamorous, seemingly unimportant. It was only later that ”Planning Group” was replaced by ”Committee” and then ”National Committee”. And you know the rest, in part at least.


[So that was how the National Committee got started? As a work group to help in rebuilding democracy?]

Yes, essentially so. Someone who has not followed its creation and what later became of it so closely as I have might even consider it all somewhat ironic.

Back in the day, when most Western European countries were functioning democracies, problematic political issues were often referred to parliamentary committees to get rid of them quietly. They called it ”burying things in committee”.


That is what we did in Finland. We buried democracy in a Committee. My boss never got to see the whole process through, of course – only the initial impossibility of organizing elections and so on during the first years, and the ”level-headed counsel” against ”rash acts while the national emergency is still ongoing”. The talk about the census and ”voter registration”. Perhaps he died still thinking his vision will be soon fulfilled... I don't know. He wasn't stupid – he might have seen the writing on the wall by then. He never openly acknowledged it to me, though.

We all see what we want, after all. He wasn't impervious to that, either.



Interview nr. 262, 04.01.2012. JON.

Subject: Man, 65 (M230)
Occupation in 1984: Factory worker
Location: Rauma, Western PPO


[Continuing the interview with a Sweden-Finnish wartime volunteer worker. See INT. 257, INT.258.]


Oh, and remember that ragged Russian soldier we found with those Finnish Navy soldiers in that abandoned house? With a dog?

[Subject strokes his beard thoughtfully.]

I am sure I told you about him...


[I know of the man you are talking about.]

Good. Come across him in other interviews or paperwork, too? I guess that is possible – we had to hand him over to the Finnish military, and they would have made some papers about him, I guess.

[Subject's eyes suddenly light up like he's had an epiphany.]

Mäkiaho! Talked to Ville Mäkiaho, have you?


[I am sorry, but we can't reveal the identities of our collaborators. Project policy, I am afraid.]

All right, then. But I am pretty sure it was Mäkiaho that came to take the Russian from us for ”talks” like they said. Him and an acerbic junior officer if I remember correctly. I have worked with Mäkiaho since, you know, also after he left the military. Quite a man. Lives in Seinäjoki I think. You really should talk to him if you haven't already...


[You were, ahem, talking about the Russian...]

Right, the Russian. I brought him up because I saw him again, later that summer. It was this James Bond-kind of thing.


[I beg your pardon?]

Spy stuff. James Bond, you know?

[Subject shakes his head.]

You young people... Anyway, I was ordered by a Swedish military bigwig directly – a high-ranking officer, came to the volunteers' lodgings suddenly at night, spooked us – to take a motor boat to this and this location on the coast at night and wait there for someone to show up. That was something unusual.

And so there I sit on a boat by the seaside and listen to a cuckoo in the woods as someone stumbles over the crest of the hill next to the shore just after sunrise. The same damn Russian, and looking as sorry as before, even in a different way... And there was gunshots, too, as if someone was chasing him. Not a bullet hole in him, though – I checked, as I was to take him along unharmed.


[What happened then?]

I did what I was told to do. I helped him to the boat, where he sat, uncomprehending, somehow resigned as we took off. And then I took him to the port of Rauma – it was several hours' journey, we had to avoid the Pori blast area – and made it in time to take him to the Apollo before at noon. The Swedish guards at the port just waved us through the gates, like they were expecting us. I guess they had been told. A Swedish officer was there to meet me, and I just left the man there.

I don't know what became of him, then. And what was the reason for all that secrecy and everything. But he was definitely taken to Sweden, on that ship. That's all I know.

A little mystery for you to figure out, there. Who was this Russian, where did he come from and where did he go? Why was he so important to go through such a James Bond operation?

I sometimes wonder those things myself.


Notes:

[1] All relief flotillas had one tanker along specifically provisioned and fitted to extend the range of the escort vessels, which typically were planned mainly for Baltic duty.

[2] A rank roughly corresponding to a Lieutenant Junior Grade in many NATO navies.
 
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The flotilla of six civilian vessels, four cargo ships and two tankers, was escorted by a single Swedish Halland-class destroyer. One tanker, the one without the Red Cross markings, had guns bolted to the deck and carried shoulder-fired AA missiles. All ships had a small complement of Swedish Navy soldiers aboard, but only those on the Halland and the tanker were armed. At the beginning of the journey, on the North Sea and through the English Channel we were escorted by a Royal Navy destroyer, the HMS Bristol, a reminder that an organized government still held sway on those wind-swept islands off the European mainland. That was of course more that could be said for much of Europe at that time. The British ship moved along with us, but still kept its distance. It made us wonder whether they considered us entirely friendly – perhaps they were expecting the Red Cross-marked Relief Flotilla turn out any minute to be a part of a nefarious if belated Soviet plan of taking over the British Isles under a false flag.

Interesting. And yeah, ever since the preparations for the war started, merchant ships have had to "take a level in badass" in this timeline. With many of the large warships probably destroyed or still only limping back to a suitable surviving base, I get the feeling that armed container merchantmen and tankers will rule the seven seas of this timeline for decades to come.

But, I have to ask, out of curiosity : Do Sweden and Finland really have such blue-water capability in OTL (in the early 80s as well as now) ? I mean, I can certainly see it happening (even if they bought/leased the ships instead of building them on their own), but I was always under the impression that countries around the Baltic Sea focused almost solely on their domestic pond, and not the surrounding oceans. I guess I was probably wrong and underestimated the naval capability of the two countries... :eek:

It was finally something in what we could use our naval training to an advantage, and [REDACTED] had worked on cargo ships before – he used to write songs about it.
Just don't tell us that his pal is the guy who wrote the OTL 1985 song from the beginning of this chapter ! ;) That would be a pretty funny revelation. :D :)
This was further accentuated when we came across a foundering French sailing boat and picked up five men who had tried to make it across the Atlantic, leaving from the vicinity of St. Nazaire for South America in search of a better life - or, well, a life - but had been been caught up in a storm. All the men were isolated in the small sick bay for days – and as it turned out, three of them were beyond help. We buried them at sea, in canvas bags weighed down with debris, and the Swedish marines fired a salute with their rifles.

Sad, but at least some of the survivors lived to see a better day.

However, that line about St. Nazaire was honestly, positively ominous. :( Were there many bases and industries to target in that southern edge of the Bretagne coast ?

There were strange things floating on the Atlantic, then, mementos of the nuclear war. You wouldn't believe me if I told you. Some of them still cause me nighmares...
OK, that was even more ominous ! Kind of like Gandalf's comment in Moria about "nameless things deep down in the dark, gnawing at the foundations of the world". :eek: :D And yeah, I'd rather not like to hear what sorts of debris and weird things they saw in the Atlantic during their crossing... :eek:

After the incident with the French, we didn't come up any survivors, though, which made it a bit easier for us. Now, dont' get me wrong - but our ships were marked with the Red Cross - we would have been pretty much obligated to help.

Altruism is a thing that is never in adequate supply after such catastrophes, so it's good to see them sticking to their ethical resolutions.

- At ease, Lieutenant. My name's Rochelle - Major Ralph Rochelle, and this here's Captain Norman Rittinen. We're Air Force, even if you couldn't decipher that from our current get-ups. Good to see you, after all these damn Finns and Swedes. Don't get me wrong, they're good people, mostly, but you know these Nordics – a bit dull, most of the time.”

He was smiling as he spoke, obviously making a jest.

Klein smiled, too, and shook hands with both men.

- Major, Captain, welcome back to the United States of America. Such as it is. You will not like much of it.”

His smile had disappeared in mid-sentence.

- Get your men together, and gather up your stuff. We'll start taking you to the Bear as soon as you're ready. The Captain will give you a small briefing when we get aboard – but for now, I'll have to talk with the officers of the Finnmerchant here.”

Well, for better or worse, at least they're finally going home...

He hadn't quite recovered from the stabbing wound, and had to see a doctor for checkups. That might have weighed on him, too – I organized so that I had to often visit the hospital where he had been patched up, for various things. There was this young, dark-haired nurse from Lapland who I had a crush on. She wasn't interested in me, thought – she got engaged to an Air Force officer some months later I think. My boss must have thought I cared a lot for his well-being, going out of my way like that...

It's a small world after all... ;) Especially after a nuclear war. :eek:

[I beg your pardon?]

Spy stuff. James Bond, you know?

[Subject shakes his head.]

You young people...
OK, that was awesome. :D The implications about the post-war generations are interesting indeed. :cool:

I don't know what became of him, then. And what was the reason for all that secrecy and everything. But he was definitely taken to Sweden, on that ship. That's all I know. A little mystery for you to figure out, there. Who was this Russian, where did he come from and where did he go? Why was he so important to go through such a James Bond operation? I sometimes wonder those things myself.

A little mystery indeed. :cool: Did some Swedish delegate just take pity on Fedya's case or did he have some emigree relatives in Sweden who arranged the whole rescue ? Was his father a Soviet bigwig with ties to Sweden ? He already revealed some stuff about his father, but you know...

Well, whatever happened to him, I'd like to think that he found a more secure place to live out his days in Sweden than he would if he stayed in Finland, on the run from the FNA military.
 
But, I have to ask, out of curiosity : Do Sweden and Finland really have such blue-water capability in OTL (in the early 80s as well as now) ? I mean, I can certainly see it happening (even if they bought/leased the ships instead of building them on their own), but I was always under the impression that countries around the Baltic Sea focused almost solely on their domestic pond, and not the surrounding oceans. I guess I was probably wrong and underestimated the naval capability of the two countries... :eek:

Both countries had companies in the early 1980s that operated some freighters on the oceans too - both had a fine history in that, of course, but the long range voyages were by that time less common than before. The Finnish (duh) Finnlines and the Swedish Stena Line for example had several freighters capable for Atlantic trade at least, even though they more often were in use on the Baltic and the routes between, say, Scandinavian and, Dutch and British ports, like you say.

The Relief Flotillas are made up of ships that are available, and as most Swedish ports survived, the government has also taken over foreign freighters. Gothenburg alone, as a major port for import and export, would have several suitable ships that would have been marooned there due to the war. I also assume that at least some specifically Finnish- and Swedish-owned ships were called home during the run-up to the war, to avoid them getting caught between the major powers. The Finnmerchant, for example, was built for the trade between Finland and Britain. Perhaps not designed to be a true ocean-going ship, but it would have to do.


Just don't tell us that his pal is the guy who wrote the OTL 1985 song from the beginning of this chapter ! ;) That would be a pretty funny revelation. :D :)

I'll just say that the writer of that fragment is the guy interviewed in the beginning of Chapter XLI, and it is the same comrade in arms he's referring to there.:)


However, that line about St. Nazaire was honestly, positively ominous. :( Were there many bases and industries to target in that southern edge of the Bretagne coast ?

I don't know about actual military stuff, but keeping with the theme of the chapter, St. Nazaire and surroundings have a major shipyard as well as aircraft industry, these alone would have made it a Soviet target.


Altruism is a thing that is never in adequate supply after such catastrophes, so it's good to see them sticking to their ethical resolutions.

It is Palme-era Sweden. If they mark their relief ships with the Red Cross as a protective symbol, at least in theory they are holding on to all that implies in terms of international law and the Geneva Conventions. The problem of course is that after the nuclear war, reality is going to differ a bit from theory sometimes.


Well, for better or worse, at least they're finally going home...

They did have an extended holiday in Finland and Sweden, didn't they.:D There are also other Americans besides the bomber crew on the flotilla's ships, those most desperate to get home from Sweden, despite that materially they would probably be more well-off in Gothenburg, as well as all the risks involved. Let's wish them luck in the future.


It's a small world after all... ;) Especially after a nuclear war. :eek:

By now I think the frequently crossing paths of the characters is a running gag of sorts. Everyone in Finland knows everyone else through a friend, coworker or a relative, at least, and like you imply here there is a lot less Finns around, too.


OK, that was awesome. :D The implications about the post-war generations are interesting indeed. :cool:

I also considered adding a footnote explaining James Bond to the readers but thought that would be a bridge too far.;)


A little mystery indeed. :cool: Did some Swedish delegate just take pity on Fedya's case or did he have some emigree relatives in Sweden who arranged the whole rescue ? Was his father a Soviet bigwig with ties to Sweden ? He already revealed some stuff about his father, but you know...

Well, whatever happened to him, I'd like to think that he found a more secure place to live out his days in Sweden than he would if he stayed in Finland, on the run from the FNA military.

There will still be more to Fedya's story, so stay tuned.
 
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I had a dream of Heaven
Didn't see myself there
It's easy to pretend to be an angel
Hard to be just human

If Heaven is only for little angels,
Is there any room left for us?
If Heaven is only for little angels,
Who opens the doors for the misguided?
If Heaven was made for little angels,
Is there any room left for us?
If Heaven is only for little angels,
Who shows the way for those that are lost?
...

SIG: Jos taivas on vain pienille enkeleille (1982)


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Jesus is coming soon, are you ready? Near Kajaani, June 1984. FNA archives.


L: Matters of Faith, Part 1


… Finland as well as other nations, the escalating threat of nuclear war caused in late 1983 and early 1984 a lot of discussion and activity among the various religious communities. The national churches, the Finnish Evangelical Lutheran Church and the Finnish Orthodox Church attempted to act as moderating influences – as much had been agreed between church leaders in informal discussions throughout late 1983. The Lutheran Archbishop of Turku, John Vikström, and the Orthodox Bishop of Karelia and Finland, Paavali, were both of the opinion that the role of the religious leaders was not to fan the war scare and flaunt apocalyptic visions to the believers, but to help the people and the authorities through the difficult times with consolation and guidance. From the pulpits of the main churches, then, the people flocking to the various places of worship during the turn of 1983-84 heard a message of patience, hope and mercy.

During the run-up to the war, the official churches, especially the Finnish Evangelical Lutheran Church as the dominant religious organization in the land, were of course heavily involved in the war preparations and the mobilization. The spiritual (and partly physical) well-being of the Finnish soldiers would be maintained by military chaplains, both Lutheran and Orthodox, often young theology students who had been appointed to this task when they were conscripted, and during a possible war, the church would also play a role in looking after the casualties: recording the dead and delivering fallen soldiers to their last resting places was a task the church had as a legacy of the Second World War. The Finnish military's religious organization was then as today led by the Military Bishop, in 1984 Viljo Remes, a doctor of theology with a career with the Finnish Missionary Society.[1]

Finland had several religious organizations in addition to the official churches, too. Different independent Christian groups had followers across the nation, especially along the Western coast and in the North. This included various Christian revival movements; Lutherans affiliated with the official church, influenced by Pietism or neo-Pietism, such as Laestadianism, Evangelism and the Awakening, and ”independents”, often adherents of charismatic movements such as Pentecostals, Baptists, Methodists, and Adventists. Apart from these groups, Jehovah's Witnesses were a major independent religious group, in membership next to the official churches.

Among many of these movements, the the world slipping ever closer to the nuclear abyss caused a rise in expectations of the End Times and the return of Jesus Christ. The expected nuclear war was seen among many as the final battle between Good and Evil, or at least a prelude to Armageddon itself. Before Christmas 1983, posters proclaiming the imminent return of Our Lord and Saviour became commonplace along roads and highways, and self-styled evangelists and prophets rose among many groups, Laestadians, Pentecostals and Jehovah's Witnesses especially, as these were the biggest groups by membership. Large gatherings were organized in various towns and villages, and the prophets would go around proclaiming a need for repentance and demanding the people to abandon sin and worldliness in expectation of Rapture.

Already in January, these activities caused small-scale disturbances attributed to religious frenzy in some municipalities, leading to official worry about the religious activities potentially causing disruption for the national emergency preparations and the mobilization. This was seen especially during the evacuation of Lapland, which was slowed down by entire villages of believers refusing to leave their homes, with their leaders telling the police and military officials that they would wait for the world to end where they were and that the Lord would take care of His own.

The authorities were especially wary of radical leaders rising among the Jehovah's Witnesses, as in stark contrast to the strictly Protestant movements, the creed of this group was awowedly against the ”worldly” powers. The members of the group were already traditionally declining military duty and serving prison sentences for this transgression. In January, voices among the national police command suggested taking a number of religious leaders into extraordinary custody as a ”pre-emptive” measure, in the similar vein as was being done to known political troublemakers, far Left activists and suspected Soviet operatives, but despite some sympathy from the highest political leadership, the plan was still considered too controversial to implement.[2]

After the destruction and chaos caused by the Exchange and the aftermath, many of these religious organizations and groups were to have very important parts to play in the survival of the Finnish citizens, as well as the first measures towards rebuilding the local and national structures of society. As the national leadership and in many places even the municipal organizations broke down for a period of time post-Exchange, the religious communities would often offer the framework for survival. Most prominently this process was to be seen in the Oulu Province, where the municipalities were often overworked with coping with the evacuees from Lapland, and where the provicincial emergency leadership was decimated by the nuclear weapon that destroyed the provincial capital. In some places, communities would be de facto run by religious leaders or ”community elders” for weeks before the state authorities could reassert even tenous control over most of the pre-War province.

After the Exchange, the official organization of the Finnish Evangelical Lutheran Church was also in tatters. At least four of its bishops had died in the nuclear explosions, including the Archbishop himself. The local Vicars in surviving municipalities and towns were left to their own devices to lead and help their flocks as they could, with the help of the other parish workers. In practice, the local church organizations would in the weeks and months following February-March 1984 become important focal points of volunteer work and recovery, providing many people displaced and stricken by the War an opportunity and a way to use any strength and skills they had at their disposal to help the weak and less fortunate around them. As the local churches and parishes often became centres of relief activities, in the months to come many a parish church would also form a nucleus of a new composite community made of wartime evacuees and refugees, as well as local inhabitants.

Most often the mutual help and cooperation based on religious affiliation proved crucial for survival in these difficult conditions, and helped many groups of people and entire municipalities to weather the worst depredations of the winter of 1983-84. This was also true of those places where the cooperation was not based on the official church organization but also the various independent religious groups. For example in the municipalities of Uurainen and Äänekoski just north of the Jyväskylä blast area, public order would have most likely fallen down entirely and the local people would have succumbed to the fallout and radiation poisoning, unless a local municipality official by the name of Toimi Kankaanniemi would not have organized protective measures against the initial fallout and later evacuations into safer areas due north, basically using his local Pentecostal congregation as an ad hoc civil defence group when the official local leadership was badly paralyzed.[3]

Before the backdrop of these mostly positive developments, in several places however the absense of legal order, extreme apocalyptic views and the influence of charismatic ”prophets” led to tragedies and strange, violent outcomes. The documents and interview material gathered during the Minne 1984 project point towards at least three cases of mass suicides, the most severe case including over one hundred men, women and children.[4] The project's researchers have also interviewed a woman who according to one estimate managed to narrowly escape a mass suicide by a religious group lead by a charismatic leader with a total control over his followers, by secretly leaving her home without informing her family of her plans.

In less severe (and more common) cases, cult leaders or ”elders” used the expected immediate realization of the return of Christ and the Rapture for abusing their position and committed various acts of violence towards their helpless followers, including repeated rapes of women and children. From the sources at the disposal of the project's researchers, it is unsure how often these kinds of crimes were revealed to civilian and military authorities and how often the perpetrators were brought to justice during the post-War years.[5]

It took until the summer 1984 when the surviving church leaders in Finland could gather together to discuss the role of the church and faith in post-nuclear conditions. The so-called Finnish Ecumenical Council of Mikkeli, held in early July in the temporary administrative capital, attended by the surviving bishops of both main churches, a small number of theologians and some members of independent religious communities mostly agreed that the role of the Christian faith in the new world would be one of mercy and support for all measures to help the very real plight of the people suffering from the effects caused by the global war in both physical and metaphysical terms. All religious and theological differences will have to be put aside to work together for the survival and well-being of the children of the Creator, proclaimed the official communique released by the Ecumenical Council...

...deliberations, the former bishop of the Kuopio diocese, Jukka Malmivaara, was confirmed as the new Lutheran Archbishop, and he immediately started using his position secure the status of the church as an independent organization in cooperation with the Emergency Cabinet. As a result, as of July 1984 all volunteer work done in the name of the official churches was considered as fulfilling the re-defined national work duty requirements. The churches were also confirmed as having an official role in healthcare-related tasks, which was only prudent as most local churches were at the time being used as auxiliary hospitals or refugee centres anyway. The practice of using euthanasia as last-ditch method of relieving the pain of those who would have no realistic chance of recovery divided the church workers heavily, but eventually the practice was reluctantly accepted with the proviso that ordained church workers could not be required to take part in mercy killings.

Weekly church services became a feature of YLE radio broadcasts already in June, at the insistence of Kalevi Toiviainen, the Lutheran bishop of Mikkeli. By all accounts, the church broadcasts were embraced by the people who could listen to the radio, and by late 1984 they were supplemented by daily prayers at preset hours. This all was of course part and parcel of the Emergency Cabinet's plans of making the ”Mikkeli YLE” broadcasts a way to bring the people together and to provide the Finns with help, leadership and relief during the difficult times ahead. The combined results of the Minne 1984 interviews suggest that the religious broadcasts were among the most popular YLE programming in 1984-1985, losing only in popularity to Finnish pop music and Acting President Leppänen's radio speeches.

By all accounts, religiosity saw a big comeback among the survivors of the nuclear war in Finland in the months and years following the apocalyptic events of early 1984. There are many very real reasons for this, and the same process has been observed in all surviving communities in Europe and North America. And like in other nations, also in Finland this new surge in religiosity was not a just a brief fad, but proved to became a permanent feature of the post-War Finnish society through the 80s and 90s. Some researchers of the conditions in post-War Europe, like Macragge (2011) have suggested that this was not just a mass-psychological relapse into traditional religious views and values, but in fact a highly a natural reaction to the world-shattering effects experienced by the generations that saw and lived through the year 1984. Definitely the help and relief received from religious belief, observance, traditions and rituals can be palpably seen in several post-War societies.

In the specific case of Finland it is also easy to see that both the Emergency Cabinet and the National Committee after it have also seeked to enhance and use this new religiosity as a structure to rebuild the cohesion of the Finnish state and nation, by extension making their own position stronger by the way of promoting the Lutheran traditions of accepting legal state authorities as a matter of course as a basic pillar in a harmonious politico-religious worldview...



Notes:

[1] Fin. Kenttäpiispa, Swe. Fältbiskop. The term translates directly to ”Field Bishop”. The office and position of the Military Bishop was founded by Marshal Mannerheim in 1941. The Military Bishop, while the member of the Synod of Bishops of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland is not in doctrinal terms an ordained bishop, and can not ordain priests. Also, his jurisdiction, the Finnish Defence Forces (today the FNA military) does not constitute a diocese.

[2] It has been suggested that the plan went as far as to list by name the individuals that would have to be arrested as a first priority, but if such a list existed, it did not survive the Exchange. Apparently the plan was supported by the Minister of Justice, Christoffer Taxell (Swedish People's Party), but opposed by the conservative Minister of Defence, Veikko Pihlajamäki (Centre), a man who had been otherwise very keen on imprisoning ”Communist troublemakers” and ”young hooligan punks”.

[3] Kankaanniemi (formerly of the Christian League) would later be known as a respected provincial religious and community leader, critical of the rule of the National Committee, until he died of cancer in 1998.

[4] This particular tragedy was found out when provincial unit soldiers under the Northern Command in Kajaani attempted to re-establish contact with a group of remote villages in the municipality of [REDACTED] in early May 1984.

[5] It has been also suggested that such practices are still more common among some highly religious communities in the north than many would like to admit, and sometimes the authorities have been said to turn a blind eye to this. This is apparently a matter of some controversy among the FNA leadership even in the 2010s.
 
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What's the status of confessions not part of the Ecumenical council?

Accepted and tolerated, but not enjoying the same "a state within a state" position as the Evangelical Lutheran Church and the Orthodox Church - in broad outlines as per the OTL.
 
L: Matters of Faith, Part 1

Congratulations to the 50th chapter. :cool: :)

In January, voices among the national police command suggested taking a number of religious leaders into extraordinary custody as a ”pre-emptive” measure, in the similar vein as was being done to known political troublemakers, far Left activists and suspected Soviet operatives, but despite some sympathy from the highest political leadership, the plan was still considered too controversial to implement.

Reminds me of the Finnish interwar years, when anti-communist and anti-Soviet paranoia was probably at its highest.

The project's researchers have also interviewed a woman who according to one estimate managed to narrowly escape a mass suicide by a religious group lead by a charismatic leader with a total control over his followers, by secretly leaving her home without informing her family of her plans.

Miss Suomalainen, right ? :(

Whenever I come across mentions of her in this timeline, I remember the earliest episode she appeared in... and I want to cry. Sincerely, I'm not an overly sensitive guy in everyday life, but rape is an unspeakably evil thing. Not that long ago, I expressed my thoughts on the subject matter in this thread. Long story short, I feel genuine anguish whenever I hear about rape victims and what they had to suffer through. :( Suomalainen is no exception. Even though she's a fictional character, I feel nothing but sympathy towards her, and I can't even begin to fathom the insane trauma she must have gone through when that cult leader abused her. That kind of experience, and meeting her mentally drained and dying father just a few months later, would scar any young person for life. Poor Suomalainen deserves a (figurative) hug, at the very least. :( I'm deathly affraid she never got one in post-war Finland, keeping the sores on her soul to herself.

I know her surname wasn't meant as intentional symbolism, but when I think of it... yeah, her tribulations and fate are rather emblematic of the "suffering Maiden of Finland"... It's not just the run-up to the war and the war itself that robbed her and raped her, but the war's tragic aftermath as well.

Before the backdrop of these mostly positive developments, in several places however the absense of legal order, extreme apocalyptic views and the influence of charismatic ”prophets” led to tragedies and strange, violent outcomes. The documents and interview material gathered during the Minne 1984 project point towards at least three cases of mass suicides, the most severe case including over one hundred men, women and children.

I now wonder whether her indoctrinated mother ended among those groups that committed ritual suicide.

This particular tragedy was found out when provincial unit soldiers under the Northern Command in Kajaani attempted to re-establish contact with a group of remote villages in the municipality of [REDACTED] in early May 1984.

Well, it was somewhere further to the north, that's for sure.

In less severe (and more common) cases, cult leaders or ”elders” used the expected immediate realization of the return of Christ and the Rapture for abusing their position and committed various acts of violence towards their helpless followers, including repeated rapes of women and children. From the sources at the disposal of the project's researchers, it is unsure how often these kinds of crimes were revealed to civilian and military authorities and how often the perpetrators were brought to justice during the post-War years.

(...)

It has been also suggested that such practices are still more common among some highly religious communities in the north than many would like to admit, and sometimes the authorities have been said to turn a blind eye to this. This is apparently a matter of some controversy among the FNA leadership even in the 2010s.

:eek:

"Great"... :(

...deliberations, the former bishop of the Kuopio diocese, Jukka Malmivaara, was confirmed as the new Lutheran Archbishop, and he immediately started using his position secure the status of the church as an independent organization in cooperation with the Emergency Cabinet. As a result, as of July 1984 all volunteer work done in the name of the official churches was considered as fulfilling the re-defined national work duty requirements. The churches were also confirmed as having an official role in healthcare-related tasks, which was only prudent as most local churches were at the time being used as auxiliary hospitals or refugee centres anyway. The practice of using euthanasia as last-ditch method of relieving the pain of those who would have no realistic chance of recovery divided the church workers heavily, but eventually the practice was reluctantly accepted with the proviso that ordained church workers could not be required to take part in mercy killings.

Desperate times, desperate choices... :(

Weekly church services became a feature of YLE radio broadcasts already in June, at the insistence of Kalevi Toiviainen, the Lutheran bishop of Mikkeli.

Are there also regular Orthodox broadcasts ?

By all accounts, religiosity saw a big comeback among the survivors of the nuclear war in Finland in the months and years following the apocalyptic events of early 1984. There are many very real reasons for this, and the same process has been observed in all surviving communities in Europe and North America. And like in other nations, also in Finland this new surge in religiosity was not a just a brief fad, but proved to became a permanent feature of the post-War Finnish society through the 80s and 90s.

No surprise here.

Some researchers of the conditions in post-War Europe, like Macragge (2011)

:D

But I do hope you realise there already is a Macragge character in The Last Flight of XM594 ? :p Maybe it's the same guy, after he quit his career of a bomber pilot. ;)

Kankaanniemi (formerly of the Christian League) would later be known as a respected provincial religious and community leader, critical of the rule of the National Committee, until he died of cancer in 1998.

I like the thought of religious dissidents against the FNA government's questionable method of running things in the post-war era...


A few nitpicks concerning typos and omissions in this paragraph (I've bolded them):

Among many of these movements, the the world slipping ever closer to the nuclear abyss caused a rise in expectations of the End Times and the return of Jesus Christ. The expected nuclear war was seen among many as the final battle between Good and Evil, or at least a prelude to Armageddon itself. Before Christmas 1983, posters proclaiming the imminent return of Our Lord and Saviour became a commonplace (missing word, probably "sight" ?) along roads and highways, and self-styled evangelists and prophets rose among many groups, Laestadians, Pentecostals and Jehovah's Witnesses (missing comma) especially as these were the biggest groups by membership. Large gatherings were organized in various towns and villages, and the prophets would go around proclaiming a need for repentance and demanding the people to abandon sin and worldliness in expectation of Rapture.
 
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Congratulations to the 50th chapter. :cool: :)

Thank you. To paraphrase an early update, "He had never planned of [the TL] living for so long".:)

I guess it would have been appropriate to end the main TL here, but alas there is still something to be written before moving on to the (sort-of extended) epilogue.


Reminds me of the Finnish interwar years, when anti-communist and anti-Soviet paranoia was probably at its highest.

I understand the Finnish authorities (especially state police and the military) kept tabs on people deemed risks throughout the Cold War, in case of just the kinds of circumstances Finland ITTL saw in late 1983. There was the WWII-era precedent for putting dissidents to "protective custody", and wartime legislation would allow it in the 80s, too.



Miss Suomalainen, right ? :(

Whenever I come across mentions of her in this timeline, I remember the earliest episode she appeared in... and I want to cry. Sincerely, I'm not an overly sensitive guy in everyday life, but rape is an unspeakably evil thing. Not that long ago, I expressed my thoughts on the subject matter in this thread. Long story short, I feel genuine anguish whenever I hear about rape victims and what they had to suffer through. :( Suomalainen is no exception. Even though she's a fictional character, I feel nothing but sympathy towards her, and I can't even begin to fathom the insane trauma she must have gone through when that cult leader abused her. That kind of experience, and meeting her mentally drained and dying father just a few months later, would scar any young person for life. Poor Suomalainen deserves a (figurative) hug, at the very least. :( I'm deathly affraid she never got one in post-war Finland, keeping the sores on her soul to herself.

I know her surname wasn't meant as intentional symbolism, but when I think of it... yeah, her tribulations and fate are rather emblematic of the "suffering Maiden of Finland"... It's not just the run-up to the war and the war itself that robbed her and raped her, but the war's tragic aftermath as well.

I now wonder whether her indoctrinated mother ended among those groups that committed ritual suicide.

Well, it was somewhere further to the north, that's for sure.

That bit is a reference to the girl/young nurse from the north, yes. I guess one point I wanted to make here was that despite getting raped by the cult leader and later seeing her father wither away, she was saved from even an arguably worse fate by her bravery in leaving the village in time - leading to her surviving the war and aftermath even as the rest of her family perished, for different reasons.

But the story won't end there, you'll see.

About the note: remember that all units in the former provinces of Oulu and Lapland would be now under the Northern Command, so in theory Kajaani commands a very large (if mostly deserted) area.


:eek:

"Great"... :(

This is partly OTL. Some of the religious communities up north, for example among the Laestadian movement, have suffered from male leaders abusing their powers, and as of late for example instances of long-term sexual abuse of children have been reported by the national media. The war (and all the destruction and chaos caused by it) is only making an existing problem worse, I am afraid.



Desperate times, desperate choices... :(

Yes, "grudgingly accepting" something that would never have been considered by the church IOTL.


Are there also regular Orthodox broadcasts ?

Eventually, though less broadcast time would be available to the smaller church.


:D

But I do hope you realise there already is a Macragge character in The Last Flight of XM594 ? :p Maybe it's the same guy, after he quit his career of a bomber pilot. ;)

It could be the same guy, though I can't see why we can't have several Macragges in the spin-offs - the Original Author certainly deserves all the mentions he gets.:D



I like the though of religious dissidents against the FNA government's questionable method of running things in the post-war era...

This would be bound to happen under the circumstances, even if the majority of the official church itself would have to play nice with the National Committee, due to the close cooperation the church and secular authorities necessarily will have in the 80s and 90s and beyond.


A few nitpicks concerning typos and omissions in this paragraph (I've bolded them):

Thanks again. It seems every time I re-read the post I see a typo here or there...
 
Thank you. To paraphrase an early update, "He had never planned of [the TL] living for so long".:)

:D

*a boom is heard, and Petike starts pouring sparkling wine into glasses*

Here's to this timeline ! :cool:

I guess it would have been appropriate to end the main TL here, but alas there is still something to be written before moving on to the (sort-of extended) epilogue.

Oh, so we're already nearing the end of the story ? I thought you were going to keep writing for a few more months. Personally, at this point in the TL, I don't mind you finishing whatever remaining plot threads there might be, at your own pace. :) Take your time with the following chapters and the eventual finale.

I understand the Finnish authorities (especially state police and the military) kept tabs on people deemed risks throughout the Cold War, in case of just the kinds of circumstances Finland ITTL saw in late 1983. There was the WWII-era precedent for putting dissidents to "protective custody", and wartime legislation would allow it in the 80s, too.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

That bit is a reference to the girl/young nurse from the north, yes. I guess one point I wanted to make here was that despite getting raped by the cult leader and later seeing her father wither away, she was saved from even an arguably worse fate by her bravery in leaving the village in time - leading to her surviving the war and aftermath even as the rest of her family perished, for different reasons.

Well, of course. If anything, she at least did the reasonable thing and proved resourceful and brave. Honestly, I prefer to see her and other people with a similarly bad fate at least survive, even if they're down on their luck. Deep down, I'm kind of hoping she eventually found happiness with someone in her later adult years. It would be at least some small compensation for all the horrible stuff she had to live through, almost entirely alone the whole time, suffering in silence.

But the story won't end there, you'll see.

Oh, I'm sure of it.

About the note: remember that all units in the former provinces of Oulu and Lapland would be now under the Northern Command, so in theory Kajaani commands a very large (if mostly deserted) area.

Everything's "bigger" in the north, due to how much uninhabited ground one has to cover.

This is partly OTL. Some of the religious communities up north, for example among the Laestadian movement, have suffered from male leaders abusing their powers, and as of late for example instances of long-term sexual abuse of children have been reported by the national media. The war (and all the destruction and chaos caused by it) is only making an existing problem worse, I am afraid.

I see.

Yes, "grudgingly accepting" something that would never have been considered by the church IOTL.

For obvious reasons.

Eventually, though less broadcast time would be available to the smaller church.

OK.

It could be the same guy, though I can't see why we can't have several Macragges in the spin-offs - the Original Author certainly deserves all the mentions he gets. :D

Maybe it's his humanities studying and researching bro, LOL. :p

This would be bound to happen under the circumstances, even if the majority of the official church itself would have to play nice with the National Committee, due to the close cooperation the church and secular authorities necessarily will have in the 80s and 90s and beyond.

Well, dissenting voices are healthy, even if they have little chance of succeding.

Thanks again. It seems every time I re-read the post I see a typo here or there...

Happens to me all the time as well. :D
 
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Thank you. To paraphrase an early update, "He had never planned of [the TL] living for so long".:)
Congratulations to the 50th chapter. :cool: :)
Seconded!:)
May the TL continue for many more chapters.

But I do hope you realise there already is a Macragge character in The Last Flight of XM594 ? :p Maybe it's the same guy, after he quit his career of a bomber pilot. ;)
It could be the same guy, though I can't see why we can't have several Macragges in the spin-offs - the Original Author certainly deserves all the mentions he gets.:D
They could be relatives in the Protect and Survive universe.

I like the though of religious dissidents against the FNA government's questionable method of running things in the post-war era...
Maybe this could provide a basis for strong Christian Democratic parties in the left and right, after the national Committee falls.
 
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