The Whale has Wings
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how are Iains lessons going astro?
On how to produce an update a day?
He's coming along nicely, now I have to get the size up
Yes, more Sicilian fun this weekend. I think I am going to have to simplify the land combat, its just getting too long and complicated...
Something like :
Allies land on Sicily
Allies win.
Simples.
He's coming along nicely, now I have to get the size up
Yes, more Sicilian fun this weekend. I think I am going to have to simplify the land combat, its just getting too long and complicated...
Something like :
Allies land on Sicily
Allies win.
Simples.
Thanks for the spoiler
Thanks for the spoiler
You said more updates, you should have been more specific
marathag
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The best end for Yamato is a curb stomp from Oldendorf's six battleships: California, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania,Tennessee, and West Virginia
Postwar firing results on Shinano's unused armor plate from 16" mk 8 shells. The PH survivors had the mk 5 shell, that were nearly as good, as they could still penetrate 25.8" at 6000 yards
Should be an ABCDA attack, Battleships, carriers and anything else thats in the area. Let it take out a Battleship or carrier or something bwhahaha.
But under absolutely no circumstances Warspite. Or else! I still want my preserved HMS Warspite museum ship damnit.
I think the subs should have a shot at her....as things stand, there should be more O,P,R class in the Far East given the way things have gone in the Med.
usertron2020
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The best end for Yamato is a curb stomp from Oldendorf's six battleships: California, Maryland, Mississippi, Pennsylvania,Tennessee, and West Virginia
Postwar firing results on Shinano's unused armor plate from 16" mk 8 shells. The PH survivors had the mk 5 shell, that were nearly as good, as they could still penetrate 25.8" at 6000 yards
I'm sure butterflies will change the circumstances of Surigao Strait. OTOH, fuel shortages may make the IJN desperate enough to launch a death ride for their battle fleet far far sooner than OTL. Maybe a charge into the DEI when they still have local air parity, leaving the fighting between surface warships and the very reduced carrier force to duke it out with each other or land based airfields? Maybe during bad weather when you could at least make a good argument for foul conditions at sea permitting the Japanese battleships to get close?
But please, one thing? After Pearl Harbor no way does the US fleet willingly engage the whole of the Japanese battle fleet in anything but ideal circumstances. The US admirals were not stupid, and knew quite well that their facing Japanese battleships in even remotely like a 1:1, or even 2:1 ratio, would be fighting the battle the way Japan wanted to.
Who is the "C"? Canada?
In the South Pacific!? While the U-Boats are still a-huntin'?If you meant "China" I will smack you with a wet towel!
Hmm. I'm getting the impression that HMS Warspite in WWII represents to Britons what the USS Enterprise not the friggin' starship! represents to us Yanks.
And good luck saving Warspite from the harpies of postwar British shipbreakers.
usertron2020
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Well, no ship is safe, but I do have a soft spot for Warspite...
Warspite and Enterprise really should be granted a karmic "Get out of jail free card" tho. This isn't a Brit- or Ameri-screw, after all.
You'd need a wolf pack of subs to sink a Yamato. Unless the screen commander was a total moron. Cripple it, yes. Sink it, no. Not unless the subs were able to score all of their hits on one side of the ship!
O,P,R's had 6 bow tubes...potentialy if the T class are anything to go by, they could have 10 tubes firing forward by now.....put that in the hands of a good and lucky commander......well......
Who is the "C"? Canada?
If you meant "China" I will smack you with a wet towel!
Was a typo mate, ABDA is what it was suppsed to say.
usertron2020
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Good commanders they had. Good fish too. But with only ONE sub, you'd need 100% of the fish to strike, and that's pretty damn near-ASB.
Ah. Bad luck then for your typo, as most letters in the alphabet would indeed be obvious typos. Had you hit "F", then I would have taken that as an obvious reference to the French.
If you mean the Japanese screen of destroyers and escort ships then whilst not a total moron weren't Japanese anti-submarine warfare tactics laughingly bad?
Was not the Shinano a sister ship of the yamato.....and she was sunk by one sub
.and yes I know fresh from the builders and not fully completed but it is possible.
Was not the Shinano a sister ship of the yamato.....and she was sunk by one sub
and yes I know fresh from the builders and not fully completed but it is possible.
Sister ship yes, less armour, no watertight doors, skeleton crew and no repair parties on board. Any ship with that kind of handicap could be sunk. If she had been as completed as any other carrier or battleship she wouldnt have been sunk outside of a full air strike and even that would be argueable.
below the waterline there were no changes,watertight doors were there...they just leaked.....and damage control wasn't a strong point of the IJN.
usertron2020
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Was not the Shinano a sister ship of the yamato.....and she was sunk by one sub
and yes I know fresh from the builders and not fully completed but it is possible.
Actually, no. She was hit by only four fish, IIRC. It was a matter of not all the adjustments having been made since her sea trials had not yet been undergone. It's watertight doors below the waterline MAY have all been installed, but they had not yet been properly calibrated and quality controlled for water tightness and ability to withstand shock damage (1) in combat conditions. Also, AIUI, the captain foolishly continued onward, (2) rather than stopping to check for internal damage and flooding, thereby causing the pressures of the sea while the ship was underway to be magnified manyfold.*glug-glug*
1) When you are unable to secure and close said doors, you basically have a Little Dutch Boy Effect all over the ship, with water pressures shooting in that are beyond the limits of human strength alone to hold back.
2) Something similar was done by the captain of the Brittanic, with the same results.
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