A Giant Sucking Sound: a President Perot TL

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¡ Hi ! ¡ ONE MAGIC UPDATE !:D:cool:.

Yep, i confess, i misread Charlie Sheen:eek:;):eek:, tricks of the human mind:).

The Taiwan crisis is over:), and China are becoming a real friend of Perot´s goverment:D, but ¡ wait ! maybe because the chinese money, funds maybe will it be some kind of Perrot´s Watergate:eek::cool::eek:.

And for last, if i read correctly the update are begging to occur, to succes a how to say, break, fragmentation of the two big parties, ¡ AWESOME !;):D;).

Peace:).
 
I´m glad that all went well with Taiwan in the end.

I´m looking forward to see who gets the democratic nomination.

It´s funny how Texas-centric this TL is getting;)
 
SEVEN TRAPPIST MONKS ABDUCTED BY GIA IN TIBHIRINE MONASTERY ; FRANCE PRESS FOR UN INTERVENTION​
-The Times, March, 27 1996

« This abduction of innocent monks who chose to remain in Algeria to care for the local population, according to their faith, shouldn’t divide France, a secular country that respect its citizens’ choices ; but this attack was clearly targeted by the GIA on French nationals, and as such, we should really intervene to protect other European nationals in Algeria and in Maghreb. »​
-French President Jacques Chirac, in a speech in Toulon, March, 28 1996


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Protests from Toulon's Algerian community

MIRAMAX BOSS AND INDEPENDANT FILM PRODUCER HARVEY WEINSTEIN ASSASSINATED IN HOLLYWOOD​
-Los Angeles Times, March, 29 1996


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Bob and Harvey Weinstein

« Just after having escaped Los Angeles after killing the rising star of the independant movie industry, Harvey Weinstein, StormFront member Buford O. Furrow, Jr. wrote in his diary : « Did a good thing yesterday. Terminated a Kike who enjoyed all the money drawn by the filth that infects Hollywood. He had offended God with his movie Priest, showing a faggot priest. Hollywood needs more cleansing. »​
-From Outrun my Gun-A Short History of the Militia Movement, Winner for Documentary Film Price at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival

« Even if many rejoiced at the announcement of the death of Harvey Scissorhands, most notably among the big fellas of the production majors, the film industry was deeply shaken. A wave of paranoia engulfed Hollywood, while repeating that since his provocations such as The Thin Blue Line, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover or Priest, « Harvey had it coming ».The expenses on household security and bodyguards skyrocketed on Beverly Hills, and many actors had some sort of political epiphany, understanding that the crazy militiamen weren’t only attacking the government in Oklahoma City, but also the film industry.

However, even if Miramax remained on the track thanks to Bob Weinstein’s sheer energy, maybe Japanese movies coming to the United States such as Princess Mononoke escaped the well-known Harvey Weinstein treatment of cutting them deeply and messing with the montage… »​
-Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film, Peter Biskind

« The assassination of Harvey Weinstein forced many film companies to reconsider their ongoing projects, not wanting to be the next on the list, and toning down their next projects in order not to infuriate the most conservative parts of America : one of the best known exemple was Danny Boyle’s Trainspotting limited release in the United States, as the story of raving junkies would’ve dismayed the average Midwest American. Danny Boyle would’ve to wait until 2007 with his highly successful adaptation of Chuck Palahniuk’s Invisible Monsters. Not only the incapacity of Miramax didn’t helped with the nascent independant industry, but many actors then reconsidered their place in politics, if Hollywood hadn’t been too much isolated from the outside world. It was on the same time that The West Wing was conceived ; it was on the same time that Gary Sinise undertook his political career that would lead him to the governorship of Illinois. Ronald Reagan used to say that Senator George Murphy, also an actor, had been his John the Baptist ; the assassination of Harvey Weinstein trigerred Christianization waves.​
Extracted from Raging Against the Night : Consequences of the 90s Violences on American culture and Movie industry, doctoral thesis by Harvard psychology alumna Natalie Hershlag, 2008

« Yeah, when Weinstein was killed by his antisemitic madman, we were quite disappointed, Matt and I. We had just begun our career in movies, and we were trying to sell our dearest screenplay, on which we had worked during our first years in Boston : a screenplay on a Boston smart guy, called Will Hunting. We were proposing to all the studios, and all the studios refused. Weinstein was the only one left, and was really interested by it, even if he said that some things had to be fixed, and Matt and I were OK with that. And then he died. He read in the newspapers that he had Good Will Hunting’ screenplay on his desk that the bastard entered and shot him dead with five bullets.

Matt whispered and threw away the screenplay, and told me we would have to concentrate instead on acting. He went on, and I went on. But I had other plans.​
-Sen. Ben Affleck (D-MA), quoted in From Helen Gahagan to Jaroslaw Kaczynski : An Essay on Actor-Politicians


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« We have just learnt that General Wesley Clark, a valuable officer and a friend of mine, commander of Operation Righteous Strike in Rwanda and Burundi, has been killed by a car bomb on US headquarters in Kigali, Rwanda. The Department of Defense express its deepest apologies to the family and wishes to honor a true American hero. »​
-Secretary of Defense Colin Powell, from the Pentagon, Washington, D.C., April, 3 1996


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« -Governor, you’re a well-known early associate of famous and controversial political strategist Lee Atwater, who actually managed your first campaigns for Representative and Governor : as such, these early campaigns were stained with bashing against either African American Democratic candidates and even a Jewish one, against whom Mr. Atwater allegedly launched a third party candidate who declared, in order to help you : « I couldn’t vote for someone who didn’t accepted Jesus Christ as his personnal savior ». Do you regret these controversial statements ?​

-First, I will never deny my friendship with Lee : he was a true friend to me, and it was difficult for me to go through his demise. As of his methods, well, it is how politics work noawadays, isn’t it ? One could accuse Lee to have been too rough on his methods but, well, if it works, and if voters are smart enough to make the difference between true charges and campaign allegations…

-With Senator Paul Wellstone as a possible Democratic nominee, would you throw back this « Jesus Christ » line ?

-Well, if I don’t share with Senator Wellstone his religious beliefs, I don’t share with him his political beliefs. I could vote for a Jew, but I couldn’t work with a socialist."​
-Interview of Republican presumptive candidate and fmr. Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC) in CNN, April, 7 1996

RABIN LAUNCHES OPERATION GRAPES OF WRATH AGAINST HEZBOLLAH POSITIONS IN LEBANON​
-New York Times, April, 11 1996

PEROT, JIANG ZEMIN, LEE TENG-HUI MEET IN GUANGZHOU, RATIFY THE TERMS DISCUSSED ON USS NIMITZ​
-Los Angeles Times, April, 13 1996

« -You have been criticized for your lack of foreign policy credentials, compared, say, to General Norman Schwarzkopf or Senator Richard Lugar. Even a candidate like President Ross Perot who focused during his presidential campaign on domestic issues was forced to go deep on foreign policy. What do you respond ?

-Well, I actually have foreign policy experience, as I helped bring BMW to South Carolina.

-But, as complex as foreign affairs got since the fall of the Soviet Union, what would you do ?

-Well, if there is still things to do after President Perot, it’s the evidence that things didn’t went so well, no ? More seriously, you are right into pointing the President’s incoherence : even if he passed right, although heavily amended by the Democrats, legislation such as the balanced budget or lobbying reform, he spent heavily into things such as that Internet thingy or these wars in Somalia or Rwanda that are turning out of control. Worse : he bashed the late President Bush’s initatives on free trade and is currently demolishing our nuclear capacity just to please Europeans, and our military presence in the Middle East to please the Arabs. If you call that coherence…

-I know that you dislike President Perot’s policies, but what would you bring, yourself, to the foreign field ?

-Well, I’m not President yet !

-But do you have any ideas ?

-There is nothing more changing than foreign affairs, and we would have, in my administration, to see each problem at the time.

-So you don’t have a doctrine on foreign affairs ?

-Who could pretend to have a doctrine ?​
-Interview of Republican presumptive candidate and fmr. Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC) in CNN, April, 7 1996

« We have just learnt that during his state visit in Tunisia, while adressing the crowd in Tunis along with President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, Pope John Paul II has been victim of an assassination attempt, the third since he has been crowned Pontiff. An unidentified man, disguised as a priest, tried to reach the papal box and was gunned down by security guards while he was trying to engage an explosive belt. Three people were killed in the blast, while the Pope and Mr. Ben Ali were unharmed. »​
-CNN, April, 14 1996


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John Paul II’s assassination attempt in Tunisia in April 1996 remains the first prime example of the Bin Laden-Yussef association : it was first Ramzi Yussef’s plan to have a terrorist wearing a suicide vest and disguised as a priest approach the Pope during his visit of the Philippines in late 1995, but his escape from the Far East left him without any prospects to carry out his plan. Bin Laden took it back, added some details, and if the attack proved unsuccessful thanks to the Tunisian security guards, it was the first instance of Bin Laden’s war against Europe, which was at the time threatening Algeria…​
-From Osama Bin Laden : A Life in Holy War, by former National Security Advisor Bruce Reidel

GENERAL ELECTIONS HELD IN ITALY : VICTORY OF RIGHT-WING COALITION, CHRISTIAN-DEMOCRAT MARIO SEGNI TO BECOME PRIME MINISTER​
-The Times, April, 21 1996


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« Even if we won the Pennsylvania primary on April, 23, the situation was still undecided. All we wanted, now that the Democrats were the only one left without a nominee, was to go to the Convention, to go with the superdelegates and to leave the image of a divided party, leaving the way to another Mondale or Dukakis disaster, and letting Perot be re-elected, or worse, Campbell in the Oval Office… If the Democrats lost this election, in 2000, they would’ve been out of the White House for twenty years ! No party can survive that, except for the Republicans, but there was the Great Depression and World War II. Richards and her campaign managers, her daughter Cecile and James Carville, rejected all our offers of compromise, with Richards on the VP slot, and Walter Mondale, who was a Minnesotan and a friend of Paul, kept him advised on the risks of a quagmire for the Democrats. But Richards wanted the top slot, and we had more delegates than her, so we wouldn’t give up. And it continued, and Paul didn’t seemed ready to give up : « It’s the battle for hope », he said. I think he finally believed his hope and change rhetoric, in the end. »​
- Sen. Stephen Colbert (D-NJ), interviewed in How Ross Perot and the Republican Party Screwed America, a documentary by Michael Moore, 2010

« My husband Paul has been fighting with non-Hodgkin lymphoma since he left Senate, and even with that disease still dwelling in his body, he continued to fight for his convictions and even ran a presidential campaign. But now, even so young, even so strong, his cancer has returned, and he thinks no much time to live. So, my husband, Paul Tsongas, has consulted with President Ross Perot and has decided to resign from the chairmanship of the Freedom Party, in order to spend more time fighting the disease. His resignation will become effective once a successor will be elected. »​
-Niki Tsongas, in Lowell, MA, April, 30 1996

FMR. REP. ED ZSCHAU LAUNCHES BID FOR FREEDOM PARTY CHAIRMANSHIP​
-San Francisco Chronicle, May, 2 1996

« Paul Tsongas’ resignation made the President sad because we wanted him as his running mate. Tsongas had the youth, the name recognition, the charisma, the ideas, everything to match with his short temper and succeed him in 2000 in the Oval Office. But the cancer arrived, the man was barely 55 and yet he was condemned, it would finally claim his life on January, 18 1997. I remember it because I was sad too when I heard of it, two days before Inauguration Day.

To my surprise, President Perot asked me if I wanted to become party chairman. When I responded immediately that I had no national experience, he explained to me that he wanted a White House insider, someone from his inner circle, to handle the Freedom Party. President or not, if he hadn’t the Freedomites under his hand, he would not feel as the chief. It was the same man who threw his money away to select candidates in 1994, and now that they were considering re-election, he wanted to control them, as a CEO would do with his employees and shareholders. When I told him that he could pick his son-in-law, he said that he had considered in fact Clay Mulford, but found out « that he hadn’t the guts for the job » and would turn to another person.

Then he made the most ill-fated decision of his presidency… Some would say the first one, but in my humble opinion, it was the only one, that triggered everything ever after. »​
-Former Vice President of the United States Hill Harper (F-IA), interviewed on CNN, September, 8 2011

It was me, and no one else, who refused my father-in-law’s offer to handle the Freedom Party. I dismiss other jealous ones’ claims that it was him who dismissed the idea. I felt that a son-in-law, a relative, even a knowledgeable one on politics, couldn’t pretend to undertake the party founded by his father-in-law. I couldn’t imagine how far it would get.​
-From The President’s Son-in-Law : Memoirs from Washington, by former White House Counsel Clay Mulford

BJP MANAGES TO FORM GOVERNMENT, ATAL BIHARI VAJPAREE PM​
-The Guardian, May, 7 1996

RICHARDS WINS INDIANA, WELLSTONE DC AND NORTH CAROLINA​
-Washington Post, May, 7 1996
 
Shitloads of easter eggs, here.

Constantinople - Being an Americanophile and having a large taste for literature and cinema helps, in my humble opinion. As I said, I'm on US history and I'm planning to leave for a half year in an American university, I'm passing the TOEFL right in December.

RamscoopRaider, John Fredrik Parker, historybuff, Orville_Third -
The GOP has become too conservative for guys like Norman, even if I became increasingly interested on the General while writing this. And believe me, the Democratic Convention will be a living hell.

nerdknight01 - Chinagate, anyone?

Historico, Fabilius - It's not my fault if Texas is home to colorful politicians! (not competent ones. Yes, the idea of President Perry is sending chills down my spine)
 
First Hill Harper, now Gary Sinise? Are you going to have everyone from CSI: NY go into politics? :D

OTL actors are the best choices for ATL politicians IMHO: same work after all, don't you think? And then, more Gary Sinise is always good for the world!




...BUT...





I can't say the same thing for more Mariotto Segni... No, really, I can't!

I have great respect for you as a writer and you know it, so, instead of calling ASB without appeal I only want to ask: WHYYYYYY???????????

I'm not arguing against a victory of a center-right coalition after two probably quite weak lefty governments but why Mariotto Segni?

Every coalition he joined? Loss of votes.
Every referendum he proposed? Rejected.
Every time he went for the spotlights? A pathetic show of incompetence and of empty recycled idealism...

I do not exaggerate if I describe him being a jinx made parliamentarian: a view of him amply shared by the past and present public opinion.
A famous name? Sure! But being the son of a former President doesn't delete your "career" when the voter sees your name as the candidate for premier on the ballot (well, if you are the richest man in Italy... but this is not the case!).

Please, what's your mysterious plan? Because you must have one to make that... blighter Chief of the Executive! (Why, oh why did I complain about Occhetto?!??!!).
 
OTL actors are the best choices for ATL politicians IMHO: same work after all, don't you think? And then, more Gary Sinise is always good for the world!




...BUT...





I can't say the same thing for more Mariotto Segni... No, really, I can't!

I have great respect for you as a writer and you know it, so, instead of calling ASB without appeal I only want to ask: WHYYYYYY???????????

I'm not arguing against a victory of a center-right coalition after two probably quite weak lefty governments but why Mariotto Segni?

Every coalition he joined? Loss of votes.
Every referendum he proposed? Rejected.
Every time he went for the spotlights? A pathetic show of incompetence and of empty recycled idealism...

I do not exaggerate if I describe him being a jinx made parliamentarian: a view of him amply shared by the past and present public opinion.
A famous name? Sure! But being the son of a former President doesn't delete your "career" when the voter sees your name as the candidate for premier on the ballot (well, if you are the richest man in Italy... but this is not the case!).

Please, what's your mysterious plan? Because you must have one to make that... blighter Chief of the Executive! (Why, oh why did I complain about Occhetto?!??!!).


Because old Achille cannot survive very long in a coaliation with Bertinotti, Cossutta, the Green and the others (don't forget Massimo 'i stab people in the back for hobby' D'Alema), not for long in any realistic Tl, i know it and you know it.

And Mario for a time (a short time i concour) had the window to achieve the spot, expecially as the frontman/figurehead of a coalition with Fini (plus Casini and Di Pietro at least in my opinion).
Expecially if for the left the fall of the goverment was really a bitter affair and frankly i see the Partito democratico della Sinistra, Rifondazione ed i verdi really at each other throath as the first left government in Italy in 50 years and last little more than 1 year due to infighting.
So in this caothic situation, left divided, Lega on her own, a center-right coalition think that just need a reasonably famous person, someone who can reassure people internally and externally, to win and voiltat Segni is here (i discount Casini as a possibile leader, at least for now, because Fini can see him as a real menace, someone with enough guile and will to be too much independent).
And honestly we had seen a lot of stranger thing in Italy political life (Cicciolina elected, Giovanni Goria Presidente del Consiglio, Calderoli nominated minister)
 
¡ Hi ! ¡ WOW !:D:eek::D.

Yep, a very popular and succesfully independent movie industry is one excellent idea, well done:), and so many changes as Ben Affleck, Gary Sinse, Natalie Portman as writter:eek:, i can wait for see another Hollywood big butterfly:cool:.

The evil Osama ( rot their soul in hell ) are learning new tricks, the big attack maybe it be totally mortal but diferent, will see...

If i remember correctly, Perot was some texan oil tycon, rich please make this guy for ultimate irony to promote and sign the Kyoto Protocol:D;):D.

And for last how popular is the Friends t.v. show, and what " butterfly " like to do with Neve Campbell and Scream movies;):eek:;).

Good luck:).
 
Because old Achille cannot survive very long in a coaliation with Bertinotti, Cossutta, the Green and the others (don't forget Massimo 'i stab people in the back for hobby' D'Alema), not for long in any realistic Tl, i know it and you know it.

And Mario for a time (a short time i concour) had the window to achieve the spot, expecially as the frontman/figurehead of a coalition with Fini (plus Casini and Di Pietro at least in my opinion).
Expecially if for the left the fall of the goverment was really a bitter affair and frankly i see the Partito democratico della Sinistra, Rifondazione ed i verdi really at each other throath as the first left government in Italy in 50 years and last little more than 1 year due to infighting.
So in this caothic situation, left divided, Lega on her own, a center-right coalition think that just need a reasonably famous person, someone who can reassure people internally and externally, to win and voiltat Segni is here (i discount Casini as a possibile leader, at least for now, because Fini can see him as a real menace, someone with enough guile and will to be too much independent).
And honestly we had seen a lot of stranger thing in Italy political life (Cicciolina elected, Giovanni Goria Presidente del Consiglio, Calderoli nominated minister)

Alt!

I'm not arguing against the chances a center-right coalition had of winning in 1996, nor against the fact that incredible (in the "I can't believe it" sense) choices have been made in the history of Italian politics (but really, name me a nation completely stranger to WTF! politics in all of its history), I'm only wondering who in the world would rationally choose Mariotto as candidate for the premiership in whichever election!

You mention Giovanni Goria: he wasn't elected, just suggested by Ciriaco DeMita as his substitute and confirmed by the parliament, and anyway he had been Minister of the Treasure four times in precedent governments,so he wasn't exactly irrelevant. The highest charge ever reached by Mariotto is Undersecretary for Agriculture! Even having him premier after a reshuffle would be a little of a stretch.

In the end, wasn't there absolutely anyone in the right wing of Christian Democracy at least a little willing to step up and throw his name as candidate? Even a backbencher would be preferable, if the alternative is "He-Who-Makes-Fellow-Politicians-Touch-Their-Nethers-When-He-Appears".
 
In the end, wasn't there absolutely anyone in the right wing of Christian Democracy at least a little willing to step up and throw his name as candidate? Even a backbencher would be preferable, if the alternative is "He-Who-Makes-Fellow-Politicians-Touch-Their-Nethers-When-He-Appears".

Segni can be considered a compromise candidate, without a 'personality' like Berlusconi to polarize pubblic sentiment and keep a tightly grip on the image spot there are still too much candidate at the driver post in a right-wing coaliation as Fini is the most powerfull but he probably will not keep the lead spot (at least this time) for fear that is too soon, but there is still Casini (i don't think there is too much love lost or trust between the two) and as Segni is still reasonable famous on the public and 'too weak' too be too much independent, even because in this occasion i don't think that the other candidate will be that famous or carismatic, in the sense that in the left the big shots like D'Alema or Veltroni can see that this round is lost and decide to try their luck in the next, so Segni will fight another non-entity maybe Rutelli. In this enviroment be weak can be an advantage.

But i realize that he will not be the most 'probable' first choice, but he can still be remain in the realm of the possibiliy...and frankly sometimes a 'maverick' candidate can emerge, expecially (at least in my very humble opinion) in a situation were the left is in totally disarray and at each other throats and will begin to goes in their separate ways (basically what happened in OTL but some years earlier), the right after the transformation of Movimento Socialie Italiano in Alleanza Nazionale, the Lega can burn herself up honestly expecially if the health of Bossi worsened

Just my thought
 
« I have always been my father’s first supporter, from my birth to the present day, and I have served many times the Perot administration while remaining CEO of Perot Systems, as extraordinary envoy or meeting officially and unofficially with political dignitaries. That’s why I can consider myself as an able candidate to the chairmanship of the Freedom Party. »​
-Perot Systems CEO Henry Ross Perot, Jr., in Dallas, TX, May, 9 1996

LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON​
-Frontpage of the Washington Post issue of May, 10 1996, showing President Ross Perot and his son, Henry Ross Perot, Jr., candidate to the chairmanship of the Freedom Party

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To say that Perot Junior’s candidature to the Freedom chairmanship had a bad reception is, well, an euphemism. Even if the President himself was quite popular and could have appointed his son to the Fed if he wanted, having Junior running provoked a considerable outcry throughout the political landscape : the Republican, Carroll Campbell, spoke of a megalomaniac trying to build a dynasty, while Wellstone and Richards, still infighting, were unanimous on mocking « a dictatorial move from a Caesar-like President ». But the most trouble came from the party itself : not only Perot wanted his third party to be a big tent one, splitting it into moderate, liberal, conservative and even socialist fringes, they had in common a rejection of the current state of affairs in US politics ; the first of them being nepotism. Hell, Richards had her daughter serving as a campaign adviser, and now Perot wanted his son to take his own party composed of people who wanted to reform things, not to serve Perot’s wills and agenda. The President was split between periods of deep depression, wanting to dismiss his whole cabinet and treating them of traitors, and supporting at all costs his son and his ill-fated campaign. Excuse my French, but it was definitely a dick move from him.​
-Former Vice President of the United States Hill Harper (F-IA), interviewed on CNN, September, 8 2011

From the point of view of China which, in spite of being a communist country, was full of stories of nepotism and corruption, and so the prospect of having Ross Perot, Jr. running for the leadership of the presidential party didn’t looked so bad for the intelligence executives. So the funding operation went on, beginning with the chairmanship campaign of Ross Perot, Jr.​
-From Only Nixon Could Go to China : An Essay on USA-PRC relations, by former Governor and Ambassador to the People’s Republic of China Thomas Kean (R-NJ)

« I wish to thank Mr. Huang for his gift. This money will be needed for those who want to reform US politics. »​
-Henry Ross Perot, Jr. in a campaign event in San Francisco, CA, May, 13 1996

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RICHARDS IN NEBRASKA, WELLSTONE IN WYOMING : ALL EYES ON THE ARKANSAS PRIMARY FOR CLINCHING THE NOMINATION​
-New York Times, May, 14 1996

FBI-MONTANA FREEMEN STANDOFF CONTINUES
-New York Times, May, 17 1996

« Then I left Senate as a Republican and decided to endorse Ross Perot for the presidential election, it was out of dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs with the GOP, which had forgotten the sense of the word « compromise » to engage into partisan and archconservative politics : selecting Carroll Campbell as their candidate is a definite evidence of this failure. When I joined the Perot administration and the Freedom Party, I was searching for reform, liberty and new projects, to give a big change to US politics, regardless of party affiliation, of lobbyism and fraud.

Now, by tapping his son into taking over his party, President Perot has betrayed the very principles on which, according to me, he was elected. I will not endorse him, and I will not serve any longer in his cabinet : I have given my resignation today as Secretary of Commerce. But I’m planning to go further.

I’m launching today my bid for chairman of the Freedom Party. I have the credentials and the will to do so. I will be the candidate of reason against the dictatorial prospects of President Perot and his nepotism. I will be the true candidate for freedom. I will be the true American chairman.​
-Secretary of Commerce Warren Rudman (F-NH) from his house in Concord, NH, May, 17 1996

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RUDMAN FAR BEHIND ZSCHAU AND PEROT, JR. IN FREEDOMITE POLLS
-Washington Post, May, 20 1996

GIA ANNOUNCES EXECUTION OF THE TIBHIRINE MONKS : NATO AND EUROPEAN UNION TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST ALGERIA​
-The Guardian, May, 21 1996

WELLSTONE WINS ARKANSAS AND DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION​
-Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, May, 21 1996

« We need to take apart our past dissensions and to unite to win back the White House. Governor Richards will campaign for me, and so will Senator Gore, Senator Nunn and my past challengers. We are now in a rendezvous with history : don’t fail me, and I promise we will come back to hope and change we can believe in. »​
-Sen. Paul Wellstone (D-MN) in a joint appearence with Governor Richards and Senator Gore from Minneapolis, MN, May, 22 1996

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« It was a good day in Minneapolis after we won the first part. I remember getting drunk with my fellow staffers and Richards’ ones, including James Carville, who were confident into getting the VP slot, while they had finally gotten over this superdelegate thing. The following day, I went on to see Syndey Pollack’s remake of Mission : Impossible. Tom Cruise was shitty, but Dennis Hopper was a hell of a bad guy in it.

It’s a pity everything went for the worse after. »​
Sen. Stephen Colbert (D-NJ), interviewed in How Ross Perot and the Republican Party Screwed America, a documentary by Michael Moore, 2010
 
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Alternate History Discussion Board: where you give Gary Sinise (who was summarized as a possible Republican candidate for 2012) a governorship and get three replies on having all CSI actors as presidents, and you put a photo of Senator Ben Affleck and nobody notices. I love it. As of actor-presidents, having a Texan businessman is not enough, with third parties everywhere? I also have plans for Kelsey Grammer, Ric Flair and Warren Beatty.

And here are back my Statler and Waldorf of Italian politics! No offense, you're very interesting to read. As of Segni, I didn't had a clue on him, it was lukedalton's suggestion! Yes, Segni is a figurehead for a very large right-wing coalition, and he will be replaced soon as someone else...

As of Friends, as a big fan, I have some plans, but ditto for Scream...
 
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Alternate History Discussion Board: where you give Gary Sinise (who was summarized as a possible Republican candidate for 2012) a governorship and get three replies on having all CSI actors as presidents, and you put a photo of Senator Ben Affleck and nobody notices. I love it. As of actor-presidents, having a Texan businessman is not enough, with third parties everywhere? I also have plans for Kelsey Grammer, Ric Flair and Warren Beatty.

Ehy i don't say anything becouse otherwise i revealed myself as nerd of outrageous proportion, but if you asking ehm coff coff

GARY SINISE? GARY SINISE? My God, it's one of my favorite actor and now is in politics lost forever to the ungratefull and dirty hall of politics damnit, basically the CSI franchise is gutted or greatly changed, but can be worse...David Caruso can be governor of Florida. Seriously, even if is funny and realistic get so many people for entertainment in politics, better not exagerate at leat IMHO.
As for Ben Afflek, is ok if he goes in politics...he will probably a better politicians than an actor

And here are back my Statler and Waldorf of Italian politics! No offense, you're very interesting to read. As of Segni, I didn't had a clue on him, it was lukedalton's suggestion! Yes, Segni is a figurehead for a very large right-wing coalition, and he will be replaced soon as someone else...

First yes i'm very offended of the paragon, i will see more as Gonzo the Great:D but even the two old coot are good...but only if i can be Waldorf;).
For Segni well i assume all responsability, all what Berlinguer said about him is the correct description of is OTL career, i just envisioned him as 'maverick' who make a comeback in a very confusing political situation, the unexpected candidate, basically an italian version of Jim Hacker from yes, prime minister with FIni or Casini in sir humphrey role.


As of Friends, as a big fan, I have some plans, but ditto for Scream...

Now i'm really curios
 
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