Remnants of Rome
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just as they gave us Syphilis : the disease we would never have iff we didnty discover america
it would also devistate the collonials: Malaria was a equely great problem
Malaria was an African disease, spread in the triangular trade.
Cuāuhtemōc
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I swore that I read somewhere that the Spartans beat back the Visigoths after the battle of Adrianinople. I'm guessing the remaining Maniote Greeks have influenced the Atinijans when it comes to their martial prowess.
Cuāuhtemōc
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You know the Salathelan Roman Vahsilate could expand in various directions. I mean if the Kyrghiz Horde decides to go conquer Toramanid Persia, the Salathelans can send their armies south into Syria, Palestine and possibly conquer Egypt. Or although they can make an alliance with Hunnia and conquer the Slav states. They can split up Dardanski and Venedja and conquer Mozja themselves. The Kyghiz Horde could also conquer the Kardarids or conquer their kingdom and have them invade deeper into India. Makuria can sure expand into southern Egypt.
You know the Salathelan Roman Vahsilate could expand in various directions. I mean if the Kyrghiz Horde decides to go conquer Toramanid Persia, the Salathelans can send their armies south into Syria, Palestine and possibly conquer Egypt. Or although they can make an alliance with Hunnia and conquer the Slav states. They can split up Dardanski and Venedja and conquer Mozja themselves. The Kyghiz Horde could also conquer the Kardarids or conquer their kingdom and have them invade deeper into India. Makuria can sure expand into southern Egypt.
Aw come on, you almost guessed everything.
Update soon.
Cuāuhtemōc
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Aw come on, you almost guessed everything.
Update soon.
Because we share the same mind, boyo.
And I said it was spread to the Americas by the triangular trade, which is the generally accepted vector for it entering that continent.
KIRGIZIA CADIT
The Romans continued to ‘impose their glory’ upon Italy, in Etruria and Italia. Etruria essentially fell in July 596, and any Etrurian hope for resistance was crushed January the following year. Graecia Parva (Rome) was sieged starting November 596. The siege lasted for almost exactly one year and Rome fell in November 597. Meanwhile the rest of Italia was subjugated. By the end of December, Italia ceased to exist.
The Romans would not stop until they were in possession of all of Italy, however. The Huns were easily convinced to give up Attilaeum and Fideraeriyar (which were still refered to as Ancona and Ravenna by Romans, though the cities’ inhabitants called them by the new names), for they had taken all that was useful out of the cities. Then, the Romans assaulted Patava. Two months and they were destroyed; by March 1st, 598, all of Italy was owned by the SPQR.
In addition to making the newly conquered regions into territories, the Romans built yet more forts and villages on the coast of Africa, which became the province of Fortunatae Insulae et Africa Extra [1]. Roman territories were treated much differently than provinces. To put it briefly, all of the provinces were powerful entities in the Empire-Consulate and influenced the entire rest of the Empire-Consulate politically and otherwise, while the territories existed for the purpose of exploitation.
These were colonies, but not colonies like the Romans had known them. They were not for the purpose of assimilation, and they were not to be directly integrated into the SPQR unless the citizens of those territories chose to do so by their own free will. Romans did not move there to find a better life in a new, though culturally familiar, land, or move there after being granted land to reward their military service, as they did in the earlier days. They migrated there temporarily and made themselves lords of the teritores [2] be it politically as a territorial administrator, militarily as a general and commander of territorial troops, or financially as a merchant travelling the land.
However, even though the territories were not as influential and ‘important’ as the provinces, and the teritores were ruled by provincials, the teritores were not too much more rebellious than they were before the Roman conquest, and were not unreasonably dissatisfied. If one asked a Early Mediatempene teritore, their biggest complaint with the Romans would be the slightly-higher taxes--though that was, perhaps, compensated for by the fact that goods became cheaper, more numerous, and of higher quality, due to trade with the rest of the Empire-Consulate. Lastly, teritores who could manage to move to the provinces would receive all the rights of ‘true Romans’.
The Kyrghiz had heard stories that to the southwest, across the vast desert, existed a massive, rich empire, with cities made of gold that lay in between mountains. This seemed to good to not be true, and Jyrghal, Qayan of the Kyrghiz, commanded his people to cross the Garagum desert. And so they did. They encountered some bands of sizable, but never too large, Toramanid armies. After their trek across the desert and numerous small battles, the Kyrghiz, then numbered at about 89,000, found themselves in the first major battle of the war in January 600. 70,000 Toramanid troops defended Herat. After fourteen weeks of fighting, the Kyrghiz under Jyrghal emerged victorious. Herat was looted and many of its inhabitants enslaved. Most of the surviving Toramanids joined the Kyrghiz army. After the battle, 40,000 Kyrghiz troops headed southwest and 34,000 headed southeast. By November 601, much of Persia proper belonged to the Kyrghiz.
The Salathelans, after hearing of Jyrghal’s success, betrayed their ally, for the Toramanids were no longer useful to ‘Salathelan interests’, as Salathelos [3] had put it. 26,000 troops sieged Trapezus and 38,000 sieged Antiochia. The sieges lasted for about a year each, the former being complete in January 601 and the latter in February that same year. The two main Salathelan armies headed east and south and Mesopotamia would, soon afterward, feel the wrath of the Salathelan Vahshilate. Makuria, too, used this chain of events to their advantage. 40,000 Maakkors [4] attacked Syene. King Zakkar, ‘Disciple of Christ in War and Peace’, led the Makurian forces to victory.
The tens of thousands of Taurikegutan troops advanced further and further into Khazartürük territory. By the beginning of 600, the army led by King Sengen, General Valamers, and General Demetrios had managed to subjugate all of the former lands of the Taurikegutans, and then some. The Khazartürüks were no more--well, they were no longer independent. Türükic influences would remain for years to come. But for now, Judaism and the culture of the Taurikegutans would prevail. In addition, the treasure and bounty, which the Taurikegutans had used to pay off the earlier Türükic tribes, was now mostly back in their hands, for the Khazartürüks had used the treasure amongst themselves and their own markets and traded little with other peoples, and the money stayed in their lands. King Sengen declared himself Emperor of Taurikegutan Empire, and Taurikegutland was more powerful than ever, and quite prosperous.
The face of the Ocsidense had changed entirely. But the Toramanids continued to break apart, a people who called themselves ‘Magyars’ begin to travel west as they were displaced by the Kyrghiz, and India would see a fair bit of its own political evolution as well.
[1] ‘Fortunatae Insulae et Africa Extra’ means ‘The Fortunate Isles and Outer Africa’.
[2] ‘Teritores’ means ‘the inhabitants of a territory’.
[3] Sa’id Mohammed II became Salathelos I, as the Salathelan Roman Vahshilate was considered a brand-new state.
[4] Maakkors were Makurian (and later, simply Nubian) horsemen.
The Romans continued to ‘impose their glory’ upon Italy, in Etruria and Italia. Etruria essentially fell in July 596, and any Etrurian hope for resistance was crushed January the following year. Graecia Parva (Rome) was sieged starting November 596. The siege lasted for almost exactly one year and Rome fell in November 597. Meanwhile the rest of Italia was subjugated. By the end of December, Italia ceased to exist.
The Romans would not stop until they were in possession of all of Italy, however. The Huns were easily convinced to give up Attilaeum and Fideraeriyar (which were still refered to as Ancona and Ravenna by Romans, though the cities’ inhabitants called them by the new names), for they had taken all that was useful out of the cities. Then, the Romans assaulted Patava. Two months and they were destroyed; by March 1st, 598, all of Italy was owned by the SPQR.
In addition to making the newly conquered regions into territories, the Romans built yet more forts and villages on the coast of Africa, which became the province of Fortunatae Insulae et Africa Extra [1]. Roman territories were treated much differently than provinces. To put it briefly, all of the provinces were powerful entities in the Empire-Consulate and influenced the entire rest of the Empire-Consulate politically and otherwise, while the territories existed for the purpose of exploitation.
These were colonies, but not colonies like the Romans had known them. They were not for the purpose of assimilation, and they were not to be directly integrated into the SPQR unless the citizens of those territories chose to do so by their own free will. Romans did not move there to find a better life in a new, though culturally familiar, land, or move there after being granted land to reward their military service, as they did in the earlier days. They migrated there temporarily and made themselves lords of the teritores [2] be it politically as a territorial administrator, militarily as a general and commander of territorial troops, or financially as a merchant travelling the land.
However, even though the territories were not as influential and ‘important’ as the provinces, and the teritores were ruled by provincials, the teritores were not too much more rebellious than they were before the Roman conquest, and were not unreasonably dissatisfied. If one asked a Early Mediatempene teritore, their biggest complaint with the Romans would be the slightly-higher taxes--though that was, perhaps, compensated for by the fact that goods became cheaper, more numerous, and of higher quality, due to trade with the rest of the Empire-Consulate. Lastly, teritores who could manage to move to the provinces would receive all the rights of ‘true Romans’.
The Kyrghiz had heard stories that to the southwest, across the vast desert, existed a massive, rich empire, with cities made of gold that lay in between mountains. This seemed to good to not be true, and Jyrghal, Qayan of the Kyrghiz, commanded his people to cross the Garagum desert. And so they did. They encountered some bands of sizable, but never too large, Toramanid armies. After their trek across the desert and numerous small battles, the Kyrghiz, then numbered at about 89,000, found themselves in the first major battle of the war in January 600. 70,000 Toramanid troops defended Herat. After fourteen weeks of fighting, the Kyrghiz under Jyrghal emerged victorious. Herat was looted and many of its inhabitants enslaved. Most of the surviving Toramanids joined the Kyrghiz army. After the battle, 40,000 Kyrghiz troops headed southwest and 34,000 headed southeast. By November 601, much of Persia proper belonged to the Kyrghiz.
The Salathelans, after hearing of Jyrghal’s success, betrayed their ally, for the Toramanids were no longer useful to ‘Salathelan interests’, as Salathelos [3] had put it. 26,000 troops sieged Trapezus and 38,000 sieged Antiochia. The sieges lasted for about a year each, the former being complete in January 601 and the latter in February that same year. The two main Salathelan armies headed east and south and Mesopotamia would, soon afterward, feel the wrath of the Salathelan Vahshilate. Makuria, too, used this chain of events to their advantage. 40,000 Maakkors [4] attacked Syene. King Zakkar, ‘Disciple of Christ in War and Peace’, led the Makurian forces to victory.
The tens of thousands of Taurikegutan troops advanced further and further into Khazartürük territory. By the beginning of 600, the army led by King Sengen, General Valamers, and General Demetrios had managed to subjugate all of the former lands of the Taurikegutans, and then some. The Khazartürüks were no more--well, they were no longer independent. Türükic influences would remain for years to come. But for now, Judaism and the culture of the Taurikegutans would prevail. In addition, the treasure and bounty, which the Taurikegutans had used to pay off the earlier Türükic tribes, was now mostly back in their hands, for the Khazartürüks had used the treasure amongst themselves and their own markets and traded little with other peoples, and the money stayed in their lands. King Sengen declared himself Emperor of Taurikegutan Empire, and Taurikegutland was more powerful than ever, and quite prosperous.
The face of the Ocsidense had changed entirely. But the Toramanids continued to break apart, a people who called themselves ‘Magyars’ begin to travel west as they were displaced by the Kyrghiz, and India would see a fair bit of its own political evolution as well.
[1] ‘Fortunatae Insulae et Africa Extra’ means ‘The Fortunate Isles and Outer Africa’.
[2] ‘Teritores’ means ‘the inhabitants of a territory’.
[3] Sa’id Mohammed II became Salathelos I, as the Salathelan Roman Vahshilate was considered a brand-new state.
[4] Maakkors were Makurian (and later, simply Nubian) horsemen.
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Lets hear it for the glorious Empire of Roma in all her reclaimed former glory at its fullest extent (hopefully) in Europe and for her future expansions in Africa.
Id personally like to hear more about the list of conditions surrounding the very interesting subject of the admittances of territory's of S.P.Q.R into full statehood.
Asia is looking good as well. Through i wouldn't mind seeing a unified china under the Empire of Qidan is this possible?
Good luck writing the next update Xwarq.
Id personally like to hear more about the list of conditions surrounding the very interesting subject of the admittances of territory's of S.P.Q.R into full statehood.
Asia is looking good as well. Through i wouldn't mind seeing a unified china under the Empire of Qidan is this possible?
Good luck writing the next update Xwarq.