"What Madness Is This?" Volume II: Prophecies in the Dark

[ZeroFrame]

Not as obvious as you'd think. While it's far from progressive on the issue, the Union doesn't really care about gay people. I think I've mentioned several characters as being "openly closeted" but people ignore it. As said above "don't make waves" and you'll skate by. So not much worse than OTL USA at this point in time. Over time, I'm positive it will be officially decriminalized, not that the secret police likely enforce the laws unless you are already a political target.

I dare say that you're probably far worse off in Europa and especially the NHRE. Loomies social policies will get expanded upon in their own storyline, but I haven't decided about them.

Well that would make sense TBH. As the RU has nothing to gain with oppressing gay people who don’t challenge power and are low key about it. Plus as long as they do their jobs and hate Anarchism and Illuminism and support Steele it doesn’t really make a difference. I mean why kill a loyal patriot when they don’t cause any trouble? This is kind of like how you made America fascist but socialist in a way and how you made fascist actually like Jews and Blacks. So it stays in line of subverting expectations.

If the RU does decriminalize it I’d imagine it would be a way to pacify the population and just make it so they don’t have to worry about one of their officials getting black listed and have to deal with dumb scandals. My guess it would be at the urging of Barry Goldwater and it would be decriminalized under the Oswald regime.

Considering Mussolini is the Pope I can see how the NHRE is far worse than the RU. Europa probably more fundamentalist when it comes to sexuality than the RU.

The IPRR I can see them hating gay people in some weird rationale that’s classic WMIT. Or it could be like Iran where they don’t have a problem with Trans people provided they aren’t gay and have enough little Loomies to fight the RU on the moon.

Thanks for answering the question.

 

[Simeon]

That said, I am now curious on the hilarious things that would happen when the Confederation of Carolinas and its colonies were ISOT'ed to OTL, preferably 1939. (Let's bring bring back the troops deployed in Colombia then for convenience's sake.)

 

[the Imperium of Canada]

That said, I am now curious on the hilarious things that would happen when the Confederation of Carolinas and its colonies were ISOT'ed to OTL, preferably 1939. (Let's bring bring back the troops deployed in Colombia then for convenience's sake.)

Wouldn't they just get ground down when they're inevitably invaded by the United States?

 

[Twiggierjet]

Interesting. I actually had an idea about an Authoritarian American regime in an alternate timeline. That could best be described as Techno-corpratist Fordians mixed with some New Deal social welfare. Alongside not really caring if someone was Jewish or not and having a more "ship them off to Liberia" approach when it came to African Americans. Basically think something based primarily off the USA from Fallout.

Of course once the dictator dies the nation goes through something like the Carnation Revolution but sweeping all of the atrocities under a rug. With most citizens absolutely refusing to bring it or admitting to them.

Is this related to that "southern fried fascism" post you had a while back?

 

[traveller76]

I think the RU would allow The Dukes of Hazzard to be a parody of Caroline. Southern sterotypes, making the Opv to be incompetent and Daisy Duke as the heroine.

 

[Proudly individualist]

I agree that they are typically Soviets or Russian, but I was writing about them for the 1920s/1930s and since those decades are transitioning periods, with technologies yet to develop with enough sophistication and the cultural revolution is still in process. By the 50s the Illuminist should be a lot closer to whatever weird, hallucinating music that the Soviet produced rather than typical Socialist realism. I have been super busy (really need to get A’s in my courses) and switching focus so I kinda abandon the project.
Also I was on my physics lecture and the professor dropped the word “Illuminating” 😎 secret Illuminist confirmed?

And what about sovietwave?

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These are pretty rudimentary, but I thought I'd take a crack at Cokie propaganda posters:

At this point they could just be honest, show the entire Gamble family and say "six generations more!"

But man, is hard to not be tempted by that suave face. Like, God, another film star like him and I will declare the Gamble clan has the best genetics I've seen in any dinasty both ITTL and OTL.

 

[pattontank12]

Is this related to that "southern fried fascism" post you had a while back?

Nope. Those guys we're more "everyman a king!" populism, Italian styled futurism, greeco-aztec fringe occultism (founded by William Dudley Pelley no less!), Brazilian styled whitening & pro miscengation (helps hold down their conquered empire if they intermarry with the locals), catholic friendly and all for maintaining black slavery rolled into a blanket.

I think the RU would allow The Dukes of Hazzard to be a parody of Caroline. Southern sterotypes, making the Opv to be incompetent and Daisy Duke as the heroine.

I can see it being a joint project which allowed the producers to avoid the restrictions of both countries (I've actually started watching it).

Though I do wonder how many Southrons left the South after the RU conquered it.

That said, I am now curious on the hilarious things that would happen when the Confederation of Carolinas and its colonies were ISOT'ed to OTL, preferably 1939. (Let's bring bring back the troops deployed in Colombia then for convenience's sake.)

Do it! Though admittedly I thought about the United States from Decades of Darkness AKA the RU's worst nightmare getting ISOT to WMIT.

 

[Proudly individualist]

Another round of lore questions:

Have the AFC and MDP some specific doctrine for blacks? Like, what they talk about in black communities?

How black pinnacle supremacy theories work?

What kind of judaism american fascist jews practice?

 

[Napoleon53]

Another round of lore questions:

Have the AFC and MDP some specific doctrine for blacks? Like, what they talk about in black communities?

How black pinnacle supremacy theories work?

What kind of judaism american fascist jews practice?

I will definitely cover black AFC in detail eventually, but the main gist of it is that they think it's basically "Nippon for the Nipponese, America for the Americans, Britain for the Anglo Saxons, Germania for the Germans, and Israel for the Israelites. Everyone else, including certain crosses thereof, are scum." We all know the blacks were accepted mainly on a political reasoning to instigate revolts in the Old South, but there's more to it. It's basically Victorian race science. Lincolnia will get a chapter soon. Right now, it's fenced in by other powers, but it won't always be. Due to its Bible ties, Ethiopia is given a pass in the East, and most of West Africa is given a pass as the birthplace of slaves. That said, the Lincolnians pretty drastically despise certain tribes and clans and will exterminate them as Inferiors. Note that Lincolnia is technically a part of the RU but also technically its own country. It's sort of like Nippon, just unimportant for now. It's also how America ignored Mittelafrika and Cackalacky getting up to hijinks. "Yeah, but these are Infee pygmyoid blacks."

As for Jews, we'll also see them get chapters but mostly they are OTL Jews honestly, just playing along with Yankee absurdity because they are a protected, welcome class and persecuted elsewhere. "Yes yes, Betters and Infees and whatnot. I'm here to do business and live safely with the Goyim." With the Yankee belief that all Jews will be granted Salvation in the End Times, there is no need to force them to change their religion. They are God's OG Chosen.

 

[Proudly individualist]

As for Jews, we'll also see them get chapters but mostly they are OTL Jews honestly, just playing along with Yankee absurdity because they are a protected, welcome class and persecuted elsewhere. "Yes yes, Betters and Infees and whatnot. I'm here to do business and live safely with the Goyim." With the Yankee belief that all Jews will be granted Salvation in the End Times, there is no need to force them to change their religion. They are God's OG Chosen.

Now I imagine the people in a jewish celebration taking advantage of their privacity to tell brutal yankee jokes.

 

[TedBacon12]

What are the Lommies position on LGBT people? And are there any ideologies or groups that actually accept LGBT people ITTL? The RU’s position is quite obvious.

I remember someone explaining to me in the old thread that the RU probably takes the ancient roman stance; the RU is bottom-phobic but being a top could be seen as a dominance move for pinnacle men.

 

[Born in the USSA]

I remember someone explaining to me in the old thread that the RU probably takes the ancient roman stance; the RU is bottom-phobic but being a top could be seen as a dominance move for pinnacle men.

My thought has always been that with the onset of Sexual Marxism LGBT people will be able to live their lives like normal, provided they're productive loyal citizens and they make donations to the local fluid bank (think a blood bank that's also a reproductive health center)

 

[Gar48]

I remember someone explaining to me in the old thread that the RU probably takes the ancient roman stance; the RU is bottom-phobic but being a top could be seen as a dominance move for pinnacle men.

What about asexuals? Considering the RU's weird belief about sex, wouldn't the lack of sexual desires be considered utterly unnatural?

 

[Born in the USSA]

What about asexuals? Considering the RU's weird belief about sex, wouldn't the lack of sexual desires be considered utterly unnatural?

That's true but they'd still produce eggs and sperm for the fluid bank so as long as they do their patriotic duty they should be fine. Even before that "lack of sexual attraction" doesn't preclude "inability to reproduce", before Sexual Marxism asexuals were probably just told to suck it up, lie back and think of Steele.

 

[Gar48]

think of Steele.

"I am aroused and scared at the same time!" ~Typical RU citizien after hearing these words

 

[Jedi Dragon]

Pseudo-Mormon-Know Nothing-NazBol Gang.

This perfectly sums up the cursed casserole of lunacy that is the RU.

 

[Kienle]

I will present a possible answer for Loomies: I will say that they won’t persecute LGBT, since the Russians prior to OTL Stalin were a lot more open to LGBT compared to other countries. TTL Russia was the same until the Viktor I time, but with the Illuminists going around getting rid of “Tsar’s backwardness” then LGBT rights will be kept.

 

[Napoleon53]

Behold, what I got cookin' right now.

I come from Ol' Co-Caro,
With my banjo on my knee,
I'm sailin' off to New Cack-a-lack,
To build a home, you see;
It rained all night the day I left,
The weather it was dry,
The sun so hot I froze to death,
Oh, Charlotte, don't you cry.

Charlotte, my love, oh don't you cry for me,
I must leave Ol' Co-Caro
With my banjo on my knee.

I jumped aboard the transport ship,
You looked like you would wilt,
I arrived over there in the col-o-nies,
A homestead for to built
It was dry and hot and dry,
I really thought I'd die;
I shut my eyes to hold my breath,
But, Charlotte, don't you cry.

Charlotte, my love, oh don't you cry for me,
I must leave Ol' Co-Caro
With my banjo on my knee.

I had a dream the other night
When everything was still,
We were back in CoCaro,
And dancin' on Chapel Hill
But I cannot return, my love,
Until I build our home,
And then I'll send a ship for you,
And never more shall roam.

This land is wild and very rough
With sav'ges all around,
But when you see the 'tation I built,
You will fall upon the ground.
We'll have fifteen kids, maybe more,
Build a future of our own,
A Southron future by the Grace o' God,
In our lovely New Cack'lack Home.

 

[Jedi Dragon]

I love the Carolinian Empire so much. It's an absolute fever dream that helps bring some levity to balance out the horrors of the RU.

 

[Proudly individualist]

Behold, what I got cookin' right now.

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I came from Ol' CoCaro,
With my banjo on my knee,
I'm sailin' off to New Cackalack,
To build a home, you see;
It rained all night the day I left,
The weather it was dry,
The sun so hot I froze to death,
Oh, Charlotte, don't you cry.

Charlotte, my love, oh don't you cry for me,
I must leave Ol' CoCaro
With my banjo on my knee.

I jumped aboard the transport ship,
I sang with a merry lilt,
I arrived over there in the col-o-nies,
A homestead for to built
It was dry and hot and hot and dry,
I really thought I'd die;
I shut my eyes to hold my breath,
But, Charlotte, don't you cry.

Charlotte, my love, oh don't you cry for me,
I must leave Ol' CoCaro
With my banjo on my knee.

I had a dream the other night
When everything was still,
We were back in CoCaro,
And dancin' on Jackson Hill
But I can't return, my love,
Until I build our home,
And then I'll send a ship for you,
And never more shall roam.

This land is wild and very rough
With savages all around,
But when you see the 'tation I built,
You will fall upon the ground.
We'll have fifteen kids, and maybe more,
build a future of our own,
A Southron future by the Grace of God,
In our lovely New Cack'lack Home.

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Sorry if I am nitpicky, but you already made a Heart of Darkness reference in Vol I, in the Spiritual marxism chapter. I don't know if you know it or not, so I thought maybe you forgot about it and were unknowingly repeating it again. If you already know it, then I haven't said anything.