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Even better! We have our own version of Shiite (In this case christian) clerics determining constitutional law! Oh, the madness!
"What Madness Is This?" Volume I: The Union Forever
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I wouldnt call them Christian,by this point their theology has diverged so much their pretty much a separate Religon.Even better! We have our own version of Shiite (In this case christian) clerics determining constitutional law! Oh, the madness!
Now that I think of it you're right, I don't even think the RU calls themselves Protestants like they did in Classic.
They already de-facto banned every other church in the country that isn't the AFC. At this point, the Americans calling themselves Protestants might as well be just for PR purposes for when they're dealing with the Prussians/Nordreich and the rest of the non-Catholic, non-Orthodox world that's not Inferior swine.
A few things:
First of all, as much as I hate the Union, their titles and buildings are absolutely badass. Guess that's how it goes with most totalitarian regimes though. Who needs freedom when you have booming anthems, grandiose Party and Church headquarters, and you're protected by the Atheling of the Party, Defender of our Faith, the President!
Secondly, where would the "Servants of Christ" fit into the Church hierarchy? Or are they essentially outside of it given the fact that most of em are from the wealthy families that run the Union?
Finally, I have an idea about the Mt. Tobias Institute.... after whatever apocalypse/catastrophe befalls the Union, you could have them simply become "The Institute" like in Fallout 4. Different in ideology and purpose, but still.
First of all, as much as I hate the Union, their titles and buildings are absolutely badass. Guess that's how it goes with most totalitarian regimes though. Who needs freedom when you have booming anthems, grandiose Party and Church headquarters, and you're protected by the Atheling of the Party, Defender of our Faith, the President!
Secondly, where would the "Servants of Christ" fit into the Church hierarchy? Or are they essentially outside of it given the fact that most of em are from the wealthy families that run the Union?
Finally, I have an idea about the Mt. Tobias Institute.... after whatever apocalypse/catastrophe befalls the Union, you could have them simply become "The Institute" like in Fallout 4. Different in ideology and purpose, but still.
ORRA has an aeroforce, runs all the camps and doubles as border patrol while RUMP deals with more mundane crime.
If it's the same as Classic, RUMP is a paramilitary organization that never fights in foreign wars, and takes care of more "typical" law enforcement like suppressing open dissidents and crushing gang both Better and Inferior
ORRA is essentially a military organization that acts as shock troops in foreign wars, conducts genocide, and does more secret police style stuff.
It hasn't stopped them before, although my idea would be that Maori's be considered similar to Blacks in America.
Anyway when I return I'll have a brief timeline detaling (I would have done it today but I had work) the possible history of New Zealand in the Madnessverse, expect; Bush Wars, Double Barrelled Muskets, Maori Loyalists, English Anti-Australian revolutionaries, Bi-Racial children, Anglican Missionaries and weird Eugenics ideas.
Because even somewhere as quiet as New Zealand must have some Madness
So basically Gestapo vs. Waffen-SS? Except more pronounced division?
Jesus, these guys outdo the Nazis for crazy and stupid ideas sometimes.
I would say that there are plenty of differences between some members over taxation, welfare, etc. However, the way the party helps its image is it's actually very fair and generous... to Betters. I'll cover it in more detail at another point, but there are great systems in place to help veterans, the poor Betters, and the Church really has a huge charity wing. With the way that economics have evolved differently TTL, it has made "Christian Socialism" basically a thing, except it's also a part of the overall American fascist system. Betters aren't getting beaten on their jobs, or treated unfairly. The MDP isn't the Galactic Empire, ruling exclusively through fear and despotism to all citizens. There are tons of people living totally sane, everyday lives who are 100% happy to be an American. That is what makes all this creepy. The Betters genuinely believe. What's hilarious is that the idea of NOT having welfare and safety nets might seem "Un-American." "As good Christians, we cannot allow our needy Chosen brothers and sisters to live in poverty." I suspect this has won the Party and Church a lot of support in the poorest areas of the Deep South. Imagine if you were living in 1984 and the Oceanians were genuinely helping poor people and going into poor neighborhoods with vans full of doctors and setting up soup kitchens with decent free meals. It might take you aback a minute, and maybe even wonder if all the horror stories are "just Eastasian Propaganda. Big Brother loves and protects us." It also makes you far more likely to want to enlist and fight for your country. Betters live good lives. And they know if they lose a war that foreign invaders will come in and try to obliterate everything they believe in.
It's a statewide gathering of "respected" politicians and legal experts who draft law proposals to send to the governor. I imagine they might be elected, but it could go either way.
Servants of Christ is just honorary and shows you are favored by the Church. Plus, you get a goon squad of Zealots to protect and serve you.
ORRA is the KGB, SS, and CIA all rolled into one. They have aeroships, extremist soldiers armed to the teeth with heavy ordinance, spies, and the like. RUMP is a combination of the FBI, Nazi Grune Polizei, the National Guard, and just straight up Police. They take care of actual crimes, gangs, beat patrols, and generally just keep law and order. ORRA is thoughtpolice. RUMP is crimepolice, though they are likely sometimes told who to raid by ORRA, something which I imagine could inspire resentment from RUMP hierarchy. I would suspect most any citizen would be gladly welcomed to join RUMP. ORRA is much more demanding, like the SS, and I imagine them only accepting the nuttiest and most devout extremists they can find, and even then they likely separate the the complete nuts from the radical patriots. The 13th Mechanized Bad Luck Brigade is like the pinnacle of insanity. Notice that ORRA never uses state designations. Like there is no "1st Ohio ORRA Battalion." It's just "Units." They choose who is in what unit. As the 20th Century rolls on it'll likely only get worse.
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This reminds me of some kind of story/theory I read about 1984 regarding an American dominated Oceania. The American part of the superstate was actually pretty free and happy, but kept overwhelmed by propaganda, consumerism, and vapid entertainment. The rest of Oceania was the stereotypical impoverished totalitarian state, and was exploited both to keep the War going and to sustain the American Way of Life.
Hilariously, the first thing this made me think of is the conspiracy theory about the Flintstones are actually slaves laboring away for the Jetsons' civilization.
So it's essentially a giant slavocracy like the Confederacy from CSA or the Draka?
Jesus fuck the Union is heading for a nightmarishly brutal fall.
Jesus fuck the Union is heading for a nightmarishly brutal fall.
Unlike the CSA or the Draka though the RU has a clear majority that are considered the social privileged class, and a robust formal and informal safety net. In both those other things the slaveocracies were ruled by minorities over a sea of slaves.
"Although they may be poor, not a man shall be a slave." Excuse you, sir or ma'am, THE CLANS PAY THEIR INFEES A very modest SUM OF MONEY. And by beating them, we save their unsouls and allow them to cross over to the eternal peace of the Void.
It's like a win-win. Everyone's happy.
Okay... maybe not a win-win. But they still get their two eagles a day!
Shirtless in the workplace! Egad, has she no shame?! Just like a papist potato-faced Irish inferior whore!
Okay... maybe not a win-win. But they still get their two eagles a day!
Fair enough. And it's not like they're the Draka, giving all the Betters lazy jobs and military roles while the Inferiors do all the work, they have Betters do most of the work and just exploit the Inferiors to support both their social safety net for the Betters and the military.
That...could work. With a lot of armed guards. Economic growth wouldn't be great, but as long as they have a slave caste...possible. I think.
That...could work. With a lot of armed guards. Economic growth wouldn't be great, but as long as they have a slave caste...possible. I think.
*sips Yankee Doodle Coffee and talks about he brought back the letter Þ before it was cool*
Yep, and it's not like TTL's America had anywhere near OTL's amount of Catholic/Slavic/Irish immigrants. I'd say maybe 13 percent or so of the Union is Inferior? If that. America is largely just a militant theocratic fascist socialist dictatorship with a majority content population (for now).