What if Queen Victoria was never born?

[VVD0D95]

He's also more likely to throw a tantrum, stack the Lords in his favour and block any further progression, which would probably have much the same effect as regressive policies

Is he though? At this point new peers were largely being created at the request of the elected government if they could t get their way.

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

William IV was perfectly happy to consider stacking the Lords in 1831 by creating up to 50 peers, and Ernest is much more reactionary.

 

[Justinian Girgis]

Hanover is under personal union with Britain, probably doesn't end up as Prussia's province

Why?

 

[Justinian Girgis]

b****r

What word are you censoring?

 

[VVD0D95]

Why?

Prussia isn’t mad enough to try and attack Hanover if it’s in a union with britain.

 

[VVD0D95]

William IV was perfectly happy to consider stacking the Lords in 1831 by creating up to 50 peers, and Ernest is much more reactionary.

No, the Earl grey was tho.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

What word are you censoring?

probably bastard

 

[Justinian Girgis]

probably bastard

Bastard doesn't end with an ''r''

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Why?

As they ended up a Prussian province after breaking with UK and losing that alliance there

 

[Justinian Girgis]

As they ended up a Prussian province after breaking with UK and losing that alliance there

What does Queen Victoria have to do with it though?

 

[ordinarylittleme]

What does Queen Victoria have to do with it though?

Her birth as female was what led to breaking of the personal union whereas if she was never born then a man (probably her uncle) would succeed and therefore this won't be the case

 

[agisXIV]

What word are you censoring?

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bugger I would imagine

 

[fluttersky]

If there's enough discontent in Britain with Ernest Augustus, might there be public pressure for him to abdicate (on behalf of him and his descendants), making the liberal Duke Augustus of Sussex king?

 

[Opo]

If there's enough discontent in Britain with Ernest Augustus, might there be public pressure for him to abdicate (on behalf of him and his descendants), making the liberal Duke Augustus of Sussex king?

That's a great PoD! If that did happen, a scenario could be:

1) Sussex refuses to take the Crown unless his marriage is recognised and his wife becomes his Queen.
2) Parliament tells Sussex no, he can be King but he can't have the Queen he wants.
3) Sussex renounces his succession rights on condition that his wife will at least be recognised as HRH The Duchess of Sussex.
4) Parliament places the Crown on the head of the Duke of Cambridge instead. King Adolphus recognises his brother's marriage. His son George is created Prince of Wales.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

If there's enough discontent in Britain with Ernest Augustus, might there be public pressure for him to abdicate (on behalf of him and his descendants), making the liberal Duke Augustus of Sussex king?

Sussex didn't seem the sort to want to be king so there is chance that he would refuse. Now that would probably cause a bit of a fuss

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

There was a suggestion that Ernest be bypassed in the line of succession in Hanover, and both Sussex and Cambridge refused to be the one to take the crown instead. I suspect they would have the same position in England, which does rather suggest moving one generation back to find a line, which does rather suggest it would be Charles of Brunswick, but he wasnt the most liberal of individuals, so discounting the Brunswicks, its over to Christian August II, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg.

King Frederick anyone?