How much of europe would/could the muslims have conquered if they had won the battle of tours? Would europe end up becoming predominantly muslim?
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How much of europe would/could the muslims have conquered if they had won the battle of tours? Would europe end up becoming predominantly muslim?
Why wouldn't they go past southern france? I think they could easily conquer much of europe. The muslims would have had far more advanced weapons than the europeans, im sure. And they were very warlike.
Perhaps muslim expansion would be gradual if they win the battle of tours?
It must be remembered that the prestige gained in this battle allowed in Otl definitely assert the dynasty of Heristal from being the de facto power in the kingdom of the Franks, to be the sole Power ...
By 725 Charles Martel ('hereditary Mayor of Palace') HAD established himself as ruler of the Franks, Although I have maintained the fiction of Merovingian Sovereignty Until 737, When following the death of Theuderic IV I let the vacant throne REMAIN. Charles Martel died in 741, and his sons Pippin III the Short and Carloman divided the realm Between themselves.
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If Charles Martel died in battle or duty retire after the defeat, power and prestige Franco, would be very damaging severely esu prestige and its ability to the Visigothic nobles settlement, was primarily Concentrated along the Garonne River Between Bordeaux Gauls and Romans Provence and South of Aquitaine, quickly would offer allegiance and loyalty to the authority of the Caliphate, much more bearable and lighter than that of the Franks
Effective control and Islamization is not likely extend beyond Septimania
Initially, the Muslims left the Christians alone to Practise Their religion,, Although non-Muslims Were Islamic law and subject to special tax, Treated as second-class Citizens, but gradually assimilate the conquered societies, Islamization of them in the process.
And as a result, at least part of the Basques would convert to Islam, making the 'Reconquista', were to happen, to become or isolated the Asturian and Cantabrians.
Why wouldn't they go past southern france? I think they could easily conquer much of europe. The muslims would have had far more advanced weapons than the europeans, im sure. And they were very warlike.
That's kind of how you get severe raiding and looting. I mean for perspective they hadn't even mopped up all of Spain, how on earth are they going to go for the rest of Europe.
what else can Western Europe actually throw?
The Franks were considered the best of the best, if they lose who can Christendom turn to? The Byzantines certainly don't have the power projection, and the Holy Roman Empire just took a one way butterfly effect to non-existence, so yah even if the Moors had to retreat the gap they just left was vast and wouldn't be filled for years something I doubt the Moors would let happen.
That's the glory of religion theirs still plenty of Pagans in Europe to convert to the Islamic cause and considering Germania was see-sawing the introduction of a new major religion to the mix wouldn't help the Christians especially when the only real Christian power was in the Balkans(and isn't even the same type) won't help their cause.
After all who are the Pagans gonna take seriously the monk, or the Muslim Army? This is a time strength is respected not words Islam proved its strength, it's soldiers got to loot and pillage the whole lands beyond the Rhine and all a young virile Germanian has to do to get in on this is convert? It's not even a question strength attracts more followers and if the Moors win at Tours Christendom is super weak, and Islam is strong with no real major rivals in the West.
Christianity won't be wiped out obviously but they might end up way if the Jews.
How much of europe would/could the muslims have conquered if they had won the battle of tours? Would europe end up becoming predominantly muslim?