What if the Magyars end up extinct in Hungary making Hungary a Slovak - Croat - Romanian state, what would happen to Hungary.
What if the Magyars end up extinct in Hungary making Hungary a Slovak - Croat - Romanian state, what would happen to Hungary.
What if the Magyars end up extinct in Hungary making Hungary a Slovak - Croat - Romanian state, what would happen to Hungary.
And also Jassic (descended from Iazyge Sarmatian?), which survived in a few villages IOTL until at least the Mongol invasion... possibly even until the Ottoman conquest.They could just not move there to begin with, leaving it German, Bohemian, Avar, Croat, and Vlach.
What if the Magyars end up extinct in Hungary making Hungary a Slovak - Croat - Romanian state, what would happen to Hungary.
The Mongols look the most likely suspects here, they devastated the place, drove the king to flea like a beggar, and wintered their horses there. Had they stayed, Hungarian could have ended up being subsumed into a Tatar identity. Of course, beyond this you are into wild butterflies frolicking in the highways of history, so where it goes from there?
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If the Hungarian language became extinct during the 19th century with a PoD in 1800, then the Hungarian state would still exist until Austria-Hungary was split after WW1.
Now, if we have the three major groups of Slovaks, Croats and Romanians in this ATL, then if Serbia and Romania grab "their" language areas, the Slovaks would be the only ones left, and rump-Hungary might continue as a Slovak speaking country.
Would Hungary (now as a larger Slovakian state) be able to avoid joining with the Czechs? Czechs and Slovaks are ATL of equal population number, and the Slovaks already have an existing state here.
The Russians didn't get subsumed, despite being under Tatar control for a long while. (Given the size of the empire they controlled, any attempt to actually force their culture to the degree of assimilation on their subject populations would have been disastrous.) What could happen is that when the Mongols are driven out, some other foreign power moves in (possibly German dukes conquer the place in the name of the HRE, framing it as a crusade) and then the Magyars are Germanized over the course of centuries, with a few holdouts remaining no more significant than the Sorbs in modern Germany.
I'm not sure I understand the idea of "Magyars going extinct". How does this happen? Genocide? Gradual assimilation? Or are we supposed to provide the ideas for how it could happen? After the era of nationalism, I doubt you could achieve that without genocide, and I don't think the *Little Entente would go that far.
It is not that implausible, but the Germans do not figure in the thread starter ...How plausible is it to have Hungary mainly Germanised during the 19th and 20th centuries?
The Russians didn't get subsumed, despite being under Tatar control for a long while. (Given the size of the empire they controlled, any attempt to actually force their culture to the degree of assimilation on their subject populations would have been disastrous.) What could happen is that when the Mongols are driven out, some other foreign power moves in (possibly German dukes conquer the place in the name of the HRE, framing it as a crusade) and then the Magyars are Germanized over the course of centuries, with a few holdouts remaining no more significant than the Sorbs in modern Germany.
I'm not sure I understand the idea of "Magyars going extinct". How does this happen? Genocide? Gradual assimilation? Or are we supposed to provide the ideas for how it could happen? After the era of nationalism, I doubt you could achieve that without genocide, and I don't think the *Little Entente would go that far.