Hehe, I was using UCS for the base map so for the quick map I was just going off those colors. Italy will probably be changed to a reddish orange color later.
Union and Liberty: An American TL
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Maybe you need a new monitor. Those colours do not even resemble each other aside fom being green.
Part Ninety-Seven: A Third Way to the White House
Update time!
Part Ninety-Seven: A Third Way to the White House
Election of 1904:
The 1904 presidential election solidified the changes in the party system that had taken place over the last decade of the 19th century. With the increasing tensions in Europe, foreign policy came further into the forefront of the campaign, especially concerning the role of the United States in the Caribbean and the relations with the constituent countries of British North America. At the same time, the passage of the Tariff of 1902 remained in the front of the minds of Americans. The previous issue of the gold standard resolved, tariffs now became the dominant economic issue of the 1904 election.
President McKinley was renominated by the Democratic Party. However, the party decided to replace William Vilas as Vice President. Among the choices that were discussed at the Democratic convention were George Oliver of Pennsylvania, Charles Fairbanks of Indiana, and Chauncey Depew of New York. While there was much contention for the Vice Presidential candidacy, George Oliver won the nomination on the third ballot in Philadelphia. Oliver's nomination was pushed largely from his personal friendship with President McKinley, and the influence of Pennsylvania political boss Matthew Quay.
Meanwhile, the Republican convention was still dominated for the most part by former president William Jennings Bryan. While Bryan received the most votes on the first ballot at the convention, support for Bryan soon wavered. Many of the older delegates at the Republican convention still saw Bryan as an inexperienced young upstart, and saw his brief presidency as a liability in the campaign. The other main contenders for the presidential nomination; Henry Allen Cooper and Speaker Joseph Gurney Cannon of Illinois, and Champ Clark of Missouri, now vied for the nomination. Using his great influence that he had wielded as House Speaker, Cannon won the nomination on the fourth ballot after making a deal with Champ Clark to choose him as the Republican Vice Presidential candidate.
While the Democratic and Republican parties remained tied to the old guard of their parties, the Progressive Party enacted reforms within the normal nomination structure and held the first ever presidential primaries in 1904. In 1904, these popular primaries were held in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Demoine, Champoeg, and Oregon. Theodore Roosevelt, governor of New York, won the primaries handily except for Demoine, which was won by Henry Wallace Sr. The other major candidates for the presidential nomination; William Hope Harvey of Vandalia, and Alton Beveridge of Indiana, contested the nomination as the convention. After the second ballot when Roosevelt gained a slight plurality, Beveridge backed Theodore Roosevelt for the nomination and Roosevelt won the nomination on the third ballot. William Hope Harvey won the nomination for the Progressive vice presidential candidate.
After Bryan's whirlwind campaign in 1900 led to his defeat, the Republican Party stepped back from the personal speeches and campaigns. Once again, the Republican party relied on local and state organizations to drum up support for Cannon. The Democrats largely did the same in gaining support for McKinley. McKinley also had a large amount of financial support from financiers in the Northeast, and especially from New York banker Elliot Danforth and Quay's political machine in Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, Roosevelt and the Progressives emulated Bryan's 1900 campaign and barnstormed across the country. However, Roosevelt had more popular support and made many speeches with other Progressive members of governments. One particular speech in Raleigh, North Carolina with Progressive senator Marion Butler brought waves of support for Roosevelt in the state as Butler encouraged Progressives and Republicans in the state to unite behind Roosevelt. This message of party unification in the South helped Roosevelt edge out McKinley in several states. The victories in the South and the lacklustre campaigning of both Cannon and McKinley led to Roosevelt winning by a landslide over both parties, giving the Progressive Party its first term in the White House.
Roosevelt/Harvey: 251 EV
McKinley/Oliver: 106 EV
Cannon/Clark: 63 EV
Part Ninety-Seven: A Third Way to the White House
Election of 1904:
The 1904 presidential election solidified the changes in the party system that had taken place over the last decade of the 19th century. With the increasing tensions in Europe, foreign policy came further into the forefront of the campaign, especially concerning the role of the United States in the Caribbean and the relations with the constituent countries of British North America. At the same time, the passage of the Tariff of 1902 remained in the front of the minds of Americans. The previous issue of the gold standard resolved, tariffs now became the dominant economic issue of the 1904 election.
President McKinley was renominated by the Democratic Party. However, the party decided to replace William Vilas as Vice President. Among the choices that were discussed at the Democratic convention were George Oliver of Pennsylvania, Charles Fairbanks of Indiana, and Chauncey Depew of New York. While there was much contention for the Vice Presidential candidacy, George Oliver won the nomination on the third ballot in Philadelphia. Oliver's nomination was pushed largely from his personal friendship with President McKinley, and the influence of Pennsylvania political boss Matthew Quay.
Meanwhile, the Republican convention was still dominated for the most part by former president William Jennings Bryan. While Bryan received the most votes on the first ballot at the convention, support for Bryan soon wavered. Many of the older delegates at the Republican convention still saw Bryan as an inexperienced young upstart, and saw his brief presidency as a liability in the campaign. The other main contenders for the presidential nomination; Henry Allen Cooper and Speaker Joseph Gurney Cannon of Illinois, and Champ Clark of Missouri, now vied for the nomination. Using his great influence that he had wielded as House Speaker, Cannon won the nomination on the fourth ballot after making a deal with Champ Clark to choose him as the Republican Vice Presidential candidate.
While the Democratic and Republican parties remained tied to the old guard of their parties, the Progressive Party enacted reforms within the normal nomination structure and held the first ever presidential primaries in 1904. In 1904, these popular primaries were held in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Demoine, Champoeg, and Oregon. Theodore Roosevelt, governor of New York, won the primaries handily except for Demoine, which was won by Henry Wallace Sr. The other major candidates for the presidential nomination; William Hope Harvey of Vandalia, and Alton Beveridge of Indiana, contested the nomination as the convention. After the second ballot when Roosevelt gained a slight plurality, Beveridge backed Theodore Roosevelt for the nomination and Roosevelt won the nomination on the third ballot. William Hope Harvey won the nomination for the Progressive vice presidential candidate.
After Bryan's whirlwind campaign in 1900 led to his defeat, the Republican Party stepped back from the personal speeches and campaigns. Once again, the Republican party relied on local and state organizations to drum up support for Cannon. The Democrats largely did the same in gaining support for McKinley. McKinley also had a large amount of financial support from financiers in the Northeast, and especially from New York banker Elliot Danforth and Quay's political machine in Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, Roosevelt and the Progressives emulated Bryan's 1900 campaign and barnstormed across the country. However, Roosevelt had more popular support and made many speeches with other Progressive members of governments. One particular speech in Raleigh, North Carolina with Progressive senator Marion Butler brought waves of support for Roosevelt in the state as Butler encouraged Progressives and Republicans in the state to unite behind Roosevelt. This message of party unification in the South helped Roosevelt edge out McKinley in several states. The victories in the South and the lacklustre campaigning of both Cannon and McKinley led to Roosevelt winning by a landslide over both parties, giving the Progressive Party its first term in the White House.
Roosevelt/Harvey: 251 EV
McKinley/Oliver: 106 EV
Cannon/Clark: 63 EV
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Wilcoxchar said a few pages back that it's still ruled by American elite, confederado or otherwise, and is doing well economicly because the US prefers to send goods through the city when trading with the Mexican states.
Nice update. Glad to see the Progressives will be getting their chance in the spotlight for once.
Have you ever seriously thought about splitting New Mexico, btw?(Not to mention Calhoun. Yikes.)
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Aren't the French dissatisfied with the meager gains from France's participation in the Turkish War?
Why did not France demand something else than territorial gains (without real value)?
Cool! So we got TR on the Presidential-throne now. I was kinda hoping for his entrance to be somewhat more dramatic as in OTL; perhaps not with a presidential assassination, but a big campaign in the midst of war or a very close election (not a landslide). Yet, its cool nevertheless.
I am surprised that Bryan did not get the Republican nomination, or that he didn't try to go at it on his own. It would have only affected the Republican's chances, but they are going to need some big changes to take the Presidency again. They seem to be stuck in 19th century politics, while the Democrats (under McKinely) and the Progressives seem to be looking farther ahead.
You mentioned that the socialists were gaining traction, I do wonder if we will see the US do away with the electoral college in the case of a multi-party system. Or introduce a two round election ala France in OTL. First round popular vote, second round by electoral vote.
Keep up the good work Wilcox, while I am looking forward to TTL's great war I hope we get a few more updates, that place us up to date in terms of tech and society before it. What does US/world culture look like right now at the start of the 20th century. It has to be somewhat different than OTL, tech is farther ahead, the US is more densely populated and urbanized, there really isn't a far western frontier (a good chunk of OTL's American identity), and the Catholic Church has made better in roads into mainstream American religion.
Keep it up!!!
I am surprised that Bryan did not get the Republican nomination, or that he didn't try to go at it on his own. It would have only affected the Republican's chances, but they are going to need some big changes to take the Presidency again. They seem to be stuck in 19th century politics, while the Democrats (under McKinely) and the Progressives seem to be looking farther ahead.
You mentioned that the socialists were gaining traction, I do wonder if we will see the US do away with the electoral college in the case of a multi-party system. Or introduce a two round election ala France in OTL. First round popular vote, second round by electoral vote.
Keep up the good work Wilcox, while I am looking forward to TTL's great war I hope we get a few more updates, that place us up to date in terms of tech and society before it. What does US/world culture look like right now at the start of the 20th century. It has to be somewhat different than OTL, tech is farther ahead, the US is more densely populated and urbanized, there really isn't a far western frontier (a good chunk of OTL's American identity), and the Catholic Church has made better in roads into mainstream American religion.
Keep it up!!!
TBH, I gotta wonder if parts of Calif. being annexed, if it happens, might precipitate a TTL WIld West scenario.....
TBH, I gotta wonder if parts of Calif. being annexed, if it happens, might precipitate a TTL WIld West scenario.....
Not necessarily since it is likely only to be seen as annexed/occupied territory rather than a frontier.
In OTL when the US got the west it was mostly empty "wild" land, not just the Mexican secession territory, but the mid west as well. Thus there was a frontier to settle. Here the US only had the midwest (just west in TTL), but with heavier immigration into the US, and less land to spread the idea of the "wild frontier" probably died sooner.
However if the reaction from the local Californios and Natives against American encroachment and settlement in occupied is bad enough, we can still see a wild (read violent) west. Perhaps much more so than OTL. It is very different to settle a land of 100,000 inhabitants aprox, to one of 2 million (which is my best guess for Cali's population. Sure the US outnumbers California 35 to 1 give or take a few, but that is not to say that 1 won't put up a fight that will make some of those 35 bleed badly.
I don't see why Wilcox would split them. Sure land wise they are the biggest states, but population wise they'l never amount to much. Furthermore both have pretty much even economies across their territories with no urban rural divide, New Mexico is mostly mining, with some agriculture to the east, and Calhoun is likely mostly agrarian at the moment though the oil industry in it is likely going to boom anytime soon. Seeing NY or Pennsylvania split would be more likely. With Chickasaw, and Winfield this US seems to have less of an issue dividing its states so maybe we will see some future divisions. The politics behind them would be very interesting but dividing New Mexico or Calhoun may still be unlikely.
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Sorry for not responding lately. Finals and graduation preparations have been taking up most of my time this week. On that note, there won't be an update this week.
Just curious, since your location says Boulder, I'm assuming you go to CU?
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