The Great War of 1937-1951-A Very Different WW2

March 11th: The Partido Nacional Mexicano De la Libertad (Mexican National Freedom Party), a Mexican fascist party, gains control of the legislature. In response, the Liberal Colalition president declares the Partido Nacional Mexicano De la Libertad (PNML) illegal.

March 13th: The PNML openly riots in the major Mexican cities. In the confussion, several pro-fascist army regiments sieze control of the Mexican government, and declare the Federal Republic of Mexico.

Does that sound plausible?

Flag of the Federal Republic of Mexico

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Lynx and Anthrax

The Lynx was the L model of the PzKpfw II. The D and E were attempts at a fast "cavalry" tank and their problem as I recall it were that they broke down way too much esp. in hard terrrain. Barbarossa demonstrated the shortcomings of the PzII and the Germans considered all sorts of follow-on models but only put the L (Lynx) into production and a fairly limited one at that. The modest amount of what I know about Puma indicates it was a good model but you are not going to see 1938 A/C's armed with 5cm guns.

A common problem with Nazi Abomb ATL's is it's one thing to have the bomb and another to deliver it to a target. Most likely the Germans do not have a way to Nuke America. Could their really large flying boat be modified to handle it? Don't know. Actually to deliver it in Europe would require a heavy --very heavy--bomber that they lacked.

I don't have a web reference to British anthrax bombs, but I have seen references to Churchill wanting to use them on BBoards.
 
Part III, cont.
March 25th: The Soviets finally take Helsinki. The Soviet Socialist Region of Finland is created. With little resitance now, the Soviets are able to take the rest of Finland.

March 30th: Stalin orders that the Axis armies be pushed back into Norway, who is an unwilling ally of the Sweedes, then move into Norway hreself. Storuman is taken by the Red Army, but grinds to a hault when faced with stiffened Axis resistance.

April 9th: 150,000 Siberian-trained soldiers are used in a massive Soviet offensive in Sweeden. Armeegruppe C is pushed into Norway, and is supplemented by extra Norwegain fascist units.
Pzkpfw IV are being rushed to the front-line as quick as possible. With combat expierence, the Pzkpfw II Aufs C, armed with a 50mm cannon, beging production to fill the major armore gap in Axis armored units.

April 11th: The Red Air Force begins to attack Axis ships shipping Axis supplies to Sweeden from bases in Finland. In response, the Danish National Freedom Party is able to open negotiations between Germany and Denmark.

April 12th: The Germans are able to use the Dannish city of Copenhagen to ship supplies to Sweeden.
The Germans begin to mass forces in Norway and behind the Ange Line in centeral Sweeden.

March 16th: After a nearly-month long time with no fighting, the Germans and allies begin a counter-Blitzkreig in Sweeden. 800,000 German, Italian, Sweedish, Romanian, Hungarian, and Czechs and thousands of tanks of all types pour all across the 300-km long Agne Line. Massive German Panzer divisions separhead this attack, with infantry and Minor Axis tanks following. The Luftwaffe destroys all of the Red Air Forces permanet air bases (about 60% of all Soviet air bases in Sweeden), and medum bombers strike at Soviet supply lines.

March 20th: Panzer spearheads the port of Harnosand, the main port to resupply the Soviet forces. Axis forces attempt to cut off the Soviet retreat by landing 55,000 men and 600 tanks at Ornskoldvik. Ornskoldvik had remained openly rebellious, so the city was taking with ease.

March 27th: With more forces being landed in Ornskoldvik, the Axis begin to encircel the retreating Red Army.

May 12nd: 600,000 Red Army men surrender after being surrounded and mercilessly pounded by the Luftwaffe and artillery. The remaining 150,000 Soviet soldiers begin the a long route towards Finland, but are attacked by Luftwaffe bombers.

May 15th: Re-enforcements are rushed to Sweeden to protect Lulea Pocket. The Red Navy prepares a Dunkirk-like evacuation plan, but Stalin orders that they weight to see what happens.

May 22nd: The city of Boden is captured by the Germans, and the Lulea pocket continues to shrink. Stalin orders that thousands of soldiers in Finland be sent to Sweeden.

May 31st: The Lulea pocket now extends from Narvik in the north to Lulea in the south. 250,000 Red Army soldiers man this defensive line, which shrikns every day.
Stockholm is bombbed by Red Air Force medium and light bombers. The Sweedish Royal Air Force is able to destroy half the bombers as they are leaving.

June 9th: The Germans begin a massive offensive against the Lulea Pocket. Pzkpfw II Aufs C begin to arrive. The offensive gains 50 miles for the Germans in one week.

June 19th: Kurena is captured, cutting the Lulea Pocket in half. The northern half surrenders after two weeks.

June 21st: The city of Malmberget is entered by the Germans, and are forced to fight building-by-building. Instead, the Luftwaffe pounds the city for 144 (6 days) straight. The Malmberget commander-in-cheif surrenders. The Red Navy begins to encircle Lulea, so another Ornskoldvik will not happen.

June 29th: Pzkpfw IV begin to arrive in imited numbers along the Lulea Pocket. Fearing another trench-war like the European War of 1914-1918, the Luftwaffe prepares paratroppers to jump into Lulea to capture it.

Part IV
July 3rd: Pzkpfw III begin to arrive along the front-line in mass numbers, as production really begins to step up.

July 13th: Denmark is officaly annexed by Germany, with protests from the Entente. Junker Ju 52, modified for the aerial assault on Luela, begint to arrive with paratroppers to "train" in Norway.

July 15th: German paratroppers jump into Oslo, and seize the main govermental command centers. Norway, despite being under the "king" of Sweeden, is beinn rebellious, by not allowing German forces to move through Norway.

July 20th: With very few losses in the Norwegian Campaign, the German paratroppers are launched. 25,000 paratroppers jump in Lulea at dawn. The first thing they capture is the air field 2 miles outside of the city.

July 21st: Transport planes, carrying supplies, weapons, and light vehicles begin to land at the Lulea Air Field under heavy fire.

July 22nd: The German paratroppers, or punktetruppen, and with regular German units, begin to move out of the air field, and into Lulea. With the mass confussion at the front, the German army begins to roll onto Lulea.

July 29th: The regular German army reaches the Lulea air field to find it a a mess of post with barbed wire stretched across them, and soldiers in Soviet uniforms sitting in them. The punktetruppen have taken half of Lulea, and are waiting for regular Wermacht help.

August 9th: The Soviet garrison in Lulea surrenders, ending the Soviet Socialist Republic of Finland's rule of northern Sweeden.

August 10th: Norwa, despite lossing Oslo, prepare to defeat the Germans. The few punktetruppen left in Oslo, now supported by more soldiers, and armor, are a match for the Norwegian Army.
 
Part IV, cont.
August 21th, 1939: Fresh from Lulea, the Aremmgruppe Luft, comprised of all avialbe paratroppers and air-liftable vehicles, launches a two-pronged attack in Norway. Gruppe A attacks the port city of Arednal, and Gruppe B attacks the city of Gudvagen. The air fields their are taken, and air supplies begin to land by nightfall.

August 22nd: The Norwegian government, not set up in Lillehemmar, requetes Entente help. France does not want to risk war, but Britian and Belgium agree to send 3,000 and 500 troops, respectivley.

August 27th: The German army bursts out of Oslo, and heads for Arednal, Gudvagen, Lillehemmar, and Harnar. Supproted by air attacks and tanks, the army moves quickly.

September 1st: The British Norwegian Releif Force (BNRF), numbering 3,000 British and 500 Belgian soldiers, 200 tanks, 150 artillery pieces, and 50 planes, and land Stavanger. The German General Staff convinces Hitler not to declare war of the Entente, but instead, just bypass Stavanger, and form a loose-blockade.

Septermber 3rd: With little resistance, the Wermacht has reached her objectives (Arednal, Gudvagen, Lillehemmar, and Harnar). The Norwegian government surrenders, and most of southern Norway is ceeded to Germany, and the rest is created into a pro-Axis puppet regime.

Septermber 5th: Not listening to orders, the British, and what they can get, parts of the Norwegian army, begin to dig in at Stavanger. A defensive line, running from Egersund and Haugisund is formed, mostly manned by the Norwegian Republic Army (NRA).

Septermber 6th: Plans for an invasion of Poland are drawn up in Berlin. Preperation will be ready by spring of 1940.
Mass production of the Pzkpfw IV begin, and plans for 100 vehicles a month is the objective, but will exceed more than 400 in December-Feburary

Part V
Septermber 10th: The Royal Navy and Marines land 5,000 soldiers land three miles south of Oslo. Hitler orders talks with Germany, to reach a peaceful conclusion.

Septermber 12th: The BNRF in Stavanger begins to mobilize. Hitler demands the British pull their forces out of Norway, or face war. France is able to get Britain to back down, and all British forces, and NRA, is evacuated to Britian.

September 15th: The Istanbul Confenrence, between the German, Italian, Sweedish, Hungarian, Spanish, and Turkish goverments to get Spain and Turkey to join the Axis. Basically Hitler, who actually attends the confrence, promise Spain and Turkey new territory, a wealth.

September 20th: Stalin orders an invasion of Romania. 200,000 Red Army soldiers and 1500 tanks, 400 of which are T-34's, move into western Romania. Romanian Communist Party members sabatoge Axis raillines.
 
I'm scarpping a Soviet invasion of Romania.

Part V, cont.
September 20th, 1939: German paratroppers, fresh from their Lulea and Norwegian campaigns, are joined by another elite group of soldiers, the Sturmtruppen, or Storm Troops. The Sturmtruppen are armed with Masuser 38K, equiped with a gas-operated shell ejection system, and the MK38, a version of the MP38, but equiped with almost-rifled sized shells.

October 4th: 15,000 paratroopers and 5,000 sturmtruppen (considered their own branch of the Wermacht), jump in and seize the Ukranian town of Chernivtsi. The sturmtruppen can capture a Soviet T-34 in 10 seconds, if they take it by surprise, and are used to hit hard and fast against Soviet positions.

October 10th: The Moldovan town of Bel'tsy is attacked by 10,000 paratroppers and 7,000 sturmtruppen. They seize the air field, and by the end of the day, light aritllery and more soldiers and sturmtruppen are flown in.

October 12th: The attack on Bel'tsy begins as 20,000 soldiers break out of the air field. Another 3,000, mostly sturmtruppen, jump into the center of Bel'tsy.

October 14th: With Chernivsti and Bel'tsy, the Germans have proved their new war doctrine of Luft Blitzkrieg. Luft Blitzkreig uses paratroppers and sturmtruppen to attack and seize startegic towns, while the regular army advances.
The RLM request a massive trasnport capbale of carrying the new Cougar air-cariable armored car.

October 15th: Stalin goes into a fit of rage when he hears about the new leuft blitzkreig, and orders that the Red Army form its own paratropper corps.
 
Launching paratroopers INTO a city is a mass murder of your own best troops.
Do you know HOW MANY planes are needed to transport all these men? And logistics, and food and ammunitions, whence they come?
 
Part V, cont.
October 15th, 1939: The Empire of Chernivsti is set up in Chernivsti and Bel'tsy, which comprises mostly of Moldova with small pockets of Ukraine herself.
Italian, Romanian, and Sweedish arms manufactures begin production of Pzkpfw II, III, and IV, to help the Germans along in armored vehicle production.

October 16th: The seige of Chisinau by German stosstruppen begins. The stosstruppen are given 100 panzers and 200 other vehicles, and 300 aritllery pieces to do this. As a test of what the stosstruppen will do for the rest of the war, the stosstruppen capture Soviet tanks and artillery pieces, swiftlly and silently.
Axis armor makes a huge lunge for Odesa to give Germany a warm-water port in the Black Sea.

October 21st: The seige of Chisinau is lifted under heavy artillery and aerial bombardment for 4 days straight. Chernivsti increases in size, and the Chernivstian Imperial Army is formed.
With this, the Moldovan SSR surrenders, and is absorbed into Chernivsti.

October 223rd: Completely taken off guard by this sudden attack targeted at Odesa, Stalin orders a counter attack into Romania and Poland.
 
Part VI
October 25th: The Romanian city of Satu Mare is taken by Soviet forces. 500 German stosstruppen remain in the city, and fight a guerlla-style battle for nine months.

October 27th: A massive uprising in Poland and the Ukraine begin. The uprsings are supported by special stosstruppen units and the local fascist orginizations. These uprsings are well organized, and gain Stalin's attention.

November 2nd: With Stalin distracted with putting down the rebellions in Poland and Ukraine, Hitler orders a full-scale invasion of the Ukraine. Odesa is finally seized, and the Axis soldiers are hailed as liberators.

November 4th: The Wermacht begins to advance towards the Crimea, and are ready to take any city in the way.
The Ukraine Home Militia has a nearly 45% desertion rating in the face of this German invasion, and the new German Pzkpfw IV tanks. Three Pzkpfw V (Pzkpfw IV Ausf F2 OTL) are seen in proganda photos. the Pzkpfw V will begin production in late-1940.

November 11th: 200 Pzkpfw II Ausf C, 100 Pzkpfw III, and 110 Pzkpfw IV tanks, along with 100,000 men begin a massive push towards Keherson, which will bring the Germans closer to Crimea.

November 12th: 35,000 Turkish soldiers and 250 tanks of German design land on the Crimea penninsula.
 
Part VI, cont.

November 13th, 1939: 650,000 German soldiers and 5,000 tanks roll into Poland. Most of the soldiers have been trained in Sweeden and Norway for cold and harsh weather, and the tanks have been insulated to protect them from the oncoming cold.
German Armeegruppe C, in the Ukraine, continue their advance Kherson and the Crimea, and the Turkish army that landed there has begun a seige of Sevastpol.

November 14th: German forces in Poland are steadly rolling towards their target, Warsaw. The Danzig corridor has been annexed by Germany. Under the Treaty of Berlin, a small Poland will be formed in southern Poland, and threst will become German.

November 15th: The popular uprsings in Warsaw has put down. This has drawn thousands of Soviet soldiers from the frontline, and hundred more have been killed becasue of it.
The German Armeegruppe Nord has reached the Vistula in the north, and is moving south to take Warsaw. The German Pzkpfw IV has given the Germans a superior tank to the T-34.

November 22nd: Under orders from an enraged Stalin, and from advice from his top generals, the Red Army pulls out of the Ukraine. Crimea has been given to the Turks, and what was once Moldvoa and the city of Odeas have been annexed by Germany.
 
World War II, March 1938 to September 1938.

Germany invades Czechoslovakia in March of 1938.
As per treaty agreements, Britain and France declare war, followed by Poland, Rumania, and Yugoslavia as successive treaties kick in. The Russian air force and navy are allowed to join in, but not their army. They do ship the Polish, Czech, and Balkan troops artillary, ammunition, armor, and aircraft in large quantities, and lots of machine guns and mortors. Polish troops of Ukranian and Belorussian origin are armed with Russian equipment and manuals, saving the Polish equipment for the Polish troops. Hungary joins in when the Czechs promise to redraw the border so majority Hungarian districts are moved to Hungary. Belgium reconsiders it's neutrality as the French and British demonstrate some willingness to fight, unlike OTL. The Belgian army mobilizes and concentrates on the border, sucking in more German troops and shelling Aachen and anywhere within twenty miles of the border.
Berlin is bombed by the Russians every night and is rubble by the end. The British and French concentrate on the Ruhr and bomb it every day, with plentiful fighter escorts. They shut down all the armaments factories, and all the coke ovens. The Poles take out the synfuel plants. Both sides take out the tank farms with stockpiled fuels. Then they concentrate on electrical production facilities.
Czech and Russian armor are superior to the crappy German designs and the Russians alone have more tanks and artillary than the rest of the world combined. Germany can attack successfully at will with infantry, but the Czechs and Poles can attack successfully with their plentiful armor and artillary. Germany succeeds in pushing forward slowly with well executed infantry attacks, and the allies attack elsewhere so the front line bulges in both directions, slowly exceeding Germany's ability to man it. As the Balkan troops arrive in April the Germans are less capable of attacking successfully. There are just too many troops on the other side.
The Russian navy contributes ships for antisubmarine convoy escorts and submarines for antisubmarine patrols, further harrassing the Germans. Germany sends it's few subs with undertrained crews against the British merchant marine, seriously annoying Britain. Germany is unable to import supplies across the Baltic, or send out fishing boats, unlike WWII in OTL.
French and British troops cross the border at the end of March and slowly force back the relatively few Germans on the western front. By August they are on the Rhine, by September they are crossing over and establishing bridgeheads. Germany runs out of gasoline for it's aircraft, and then out of aircraft themselves to attrition against three times their number of enemy planes, and as a result bombing becomes uninterrupted by air defence. German cities are not yet defended by significant antiaircraft cannon. All the high muzzle velocity heavy cannon are being used as antitank guns on the borders.
In September the German armed forces shoot Hitler and make peace.
Total military and civilian casualties are 500,000 each. Civilian casualties are almost all German, four fifths killed by aircraft and one fifth killed by artillary. Miltary casualties are about three fifths Allied troops mostly killed by German infantry, and two fifths German troops mostly killed by Allied artillary.
 

Redbeard

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Kurt_Steiner said:
The Me264, the Ta400.... see luft46.com

Or an ICBM, AFAIK the Germans had one in the tube in 1945 - a V2 on steroids.

I would hate to see the US post WWII rocket programme without Werner von Braun.

Regards

Steffen Redbeard
 
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