I like what you're doing here. It's original and creative.
But this is kinda getting wanky. Are there any future crises planned?
But this is kinda getting wanky. Are there any future crises planned?
The Accidental President: A Jesse Jackson Wins 1988 TL
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Yes, of course. We're still in the first 100 days. Things go well, before they go bad.
edit: I'm enjoying the pace I'm writing things, but I can try to speed up if readers would like?
Oh, I meant speed up the story, ya know? I think once we're out of the first 100 days, the pace will speed up and we'll start looking forward to the midterms and all that.
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Jack Kemp and Bob Dole seem like the most plausible contenders for the '92 nomination, as the former is the first and foremost rising star for the Reps and the other has been patiently waiting his turn for, well, forever and has a lot of established support. The other, outside candidate, I'm thinking is Buchanan if he can capitalize on Jackson's race well enough to win a majority of the delegates in he primary. Idk who else could more successfully run for and win the Republican nomination in '92 besides these three
Y'all best have more evidence that the member you just painted as a racist actually is one. The fact that he isn't a fan of this thread IS NOT such evidence.
You have two options. Present acceptable proof that the member actually IS a racist. Apologize, publicly, in this thread.
Either way, you have 24 hours from the next time you log on.
After that I have to get involved again. The action for accusing someone of being a racist (Nazi, etc.) is the same as being one
Considering that I have previously written a disgustingly biased timeline about Jackson disastrously losing the 1988 election, and that TL serves as a dark reminder of the person I used to be, I was initially overjoyed to see this TL when I was scrolling through the forum. After reading it though I'm disappointed. I was hoping for something that genuinely explored a potential Jackson presidency, and instead he's banning oil tankers, and forcing Supreme Court Justices to resign.
Jackson has his flaws but, you've made him into a cartoonish tyrant and a generic left-wing strawman who doesn't even resemble himself. Jesse Jackson deserves a better TL, where his real strengths and weaknesses are explored.
Jackson has his flaws but, you've made him into a cartoonish tyrant and a generic left-wing strawman who doesn't even resemble himself. Jesse Jackson deserves a better TL, where his real strengths and weaknesses are explored.
I hope you understand, I haven't made him into a tyrant. I'm considering how the media would portray him, and that's how the conservative members of the Congress would, similar but I feel ultimately to a lessor degree when compared to the right's reaction to President Obama. I feel I have made a strong and compelling character, and feel this will ultimately demonstrate that Jackson is a good guy and deserving of the presidency. He's been very successful thus far. I thought I was getting a reaction that the readers felt this was moving into "wank" direction. Jackson is a bad ass, and I feel in this story he feels a responsibility to correct the Reagan years.
I feel I overreacted a little here, let me try to explain though.
It was some of his ITL actions that made me call him a tyrant. I don't know if any president has pressured a Supreme Court Justice to resign, and banning oil tankers seems like a vast overreach of executive power and a strange and extremely heavy-handed reaction. Threatening the Soviets with an invasion over it... is beyond excessive.
I know making a timeline is hell and honestly, I wish you all the best. Good luck with the timeline!
I totally see where you're coming from. I'm approaching this as if it were a biography being written now about Jackson as POTUS in the 90s really. So not everything should be taken as "fact," but rather often times speculation from the "perspective" of the "author." Banning oil tankers is a total rookie move but he's also a rookie politician in a way. He jumped from civil rights leader to POTUS. There are going to be growing pains. Ever listen to the Nixon tapes? His paranoia is so deep and immense it's terrifying. Jackson isn't paranoid, he's trying to do his best. In a moment of anger, a story a biographer might hear about years later after the USSR has collapsed, "threatening" to invade USSR is just that: a moment of anger. Jackson isn't perfect by any means. He's meant to fuck up and grow. I'm not writing Jackson the man could have been, but rather the character he could have been. Edit: 100% FDR wanted to increase the Supreme Court numbers to pack the court with his own guys.
Side note: I'm back out on the road working, so I don't know when the next update will be up. Worked on it some Sunday but haven't been able to since. Sorry, guys.
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Chapter 10
Chapter 10
It was then suddenly the nation started to question the guidance of President Jesse Jackson. As the first 100 days were nearing the end, certain media outlets started
to point out President Jackson, while getting several new bills passed through Congress (most of which had already been years in the making), he had thus far failed to
pass his major policy legislations he promised to get done by this point. Pre-occupied with planning a defense of Kuwait should things escalate there, with Iraq
overplaying their hand; as more intelligence started to be gathered and compiled, it became clearer and clearer that maybe the United States would have to step in.
This started to also be covered in the national media, with leaks seemingly starting to find their way from the White House, and the American people were adverse
to participating in the war, so the administration was forced to downplay the threat in the region publicly. This proved to be a catastrophic failure. A new threat
was on the horizon...
OOC:
I told you it wasn't dead, and well...!!!
Lmao, lemme know what everyone thinks.
Suggestions very much welcome for the next series of updates.
It was then suddenly the nation started to question the guidance of President Jesse Jackson. As the first 100 days were nearing the end, certain media outlets started
to point out President Jackson, while getting several new bills passed through Congress (most of which had already been years in the making), he had thus far failed to
pass his major policy legislations he promised to get done by this point. Pre-occupied with planning a defense of Kuwait should things escalate there, with Iraq
overplaying their hand; as more intelligence started to be gathered and compiled, it became clearer and clearer that maybe the United States would have to step in.
This started to also be covered in the national media, with leaks seemingly starting to find their way from the White House, and the American people were adverse
to participating in the war, so the administration was forced to downplay the threat in the region publicly. This proved to be a catastrophic failure. A new threat
was on the horizon...
OOC:
I told you it wasn't dead, and well...!!!
Lmao, lemme know what everyone thinks.
Suggestions very much welcome for the next series of updates.
It’s possible she could promise him some “favors” in return for being running mate.
No, it's not. This is not a situation of her accepting the nomination in order to run in 8 years, or something worse.
Chapter 11
Chapter 11
The air was sucked out of the room. Iraq had indeed invaded Kuwait. President of the United States, Jesse Jackson, could not believe his ears. He felt as if
steam was rising from them. Of course, there was none such steam, but the sentiment remains. Iraqi president Saddam Hussein justified it quickly: saying that,
first, Kuwait was part of a pan-Iraqi identity. Second, that Kuwait was stealing oil from the Rumaila oil field; and third, that oil overproduction by Kuwait
and United Arab Emirates was an "economic warfare" actively being encouraged by the United States. They had beaten POTUS Jackson to the punch, but that proved
to be their fatal mistake.
They invaded blitzkrieg bop style. Enthusiastic, their forces rush head first into combat, and many mistakes are made. Initially, it was a massacre. The images
that were finally shown to light:
The United States would have to respond. In fact, the coalition that would had already been built. Like clockwork, the United States declared war on Iraq, then the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, then West Germany, then things got really weird. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, East Germany, and Iran also declared war on Iraq. Notably, the People's Republic of China did not.
Very quickly, Saddam Hussein was literally shaking in his boots. The Iraqi took defensive positions, and then planted there. They wanted to play World War One style. The POTUS and the leaders of the coalition had better ideas. George W. Smith was called out of retirement and he volunteered to lead the initial wave of invasion. Iran quickly invaded, and then the United Arab Emirates, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and the Republic of Egypt also declared on Iraq.
Then, Saddam shit himself. The First Marine Expeditionary Brigade was shipped out from Hawai'i, and Soviet planes rocked the Iraqi positions. As if it were planned, the aforementioned four countries invaded Iraq themselves. Soon enough, Marine boots were on the ground.
Like hellfire, the Iraqi people quickly realized their mistake in trusting Saddam. President Jackson challenged George W. Smith to win the war in 40 days, and combined with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, and commander of United States Central Command Norman Schwarzkopf Jr., they do. Technically.
The Iraqi forces were quickly dispelled from Kuwait, and Kuwaiti independence was restored. Military forces were left as others came rushing in. The remaining forces tended to the destruction, setting up hospitals and seeing to the rebuilding of the local infrastructure. Meanwhile, the fresh forces rushed into Iraq proper. It was mainly American forces, then. The blue boys and gals back home had once more been called to war.
A draft wasn't needed, nor was any feeling of such a need felt. With a flick of his wrist, President Jackson absolutely, unequivocally integrated the combat troops. Volunteer rates shot through the roof, with many women specifically volunteering for combat themselves. This one shocked Mr. Gorbachev, but he liked it.
Coordinated attacks continued, and then suddenly, an Iraqi civil war was upon the coalition. Called the Sha'aban Intifada among Shi'ite Iraqis, and the National Uprising among Kurds, they opted to support these insurgent forces. Within a matter of month or two, Saddam Hussein was in the hands of coalition forces. As if it wasn't planned at all, insurgent forces popped up in Egypt, with revolutionary forces taking Hosni Mubarak for themselves.
A graphic video of his last moments showing revolutionary forces beating him and a soldier sodomizing him with a bayonet before he was shot several times as he pleaded for his life was rather quickly leaked to the press. Suddenly, the American apatite for war was growing thin. After all, everything had been documented, and everything shown.
The Arab Spring was upon us.
The air was sucked out of the room. Iraq had indeed invaded Kuwait. President of the United States, Jesse Jackson, could not believe his ears. He felt as if
steam was rising from them. Of course, there was none such steam, but the sentiment remains. Iraqi president Saddam Hussein justified it quickly: saying that,
first, Kuwait was part of a pan-Iraqi identity. Second, that Kuwait was stealing oil from the Rumaila oil field; and third, that oil overproduction by Kuwait
and United Arab Emirates was an "economic warfare" actively being encouraged by the United States. They had beaten POTUS Jackson to the punch, but that proved
to be their fatal mistake.
They invaded blitzkrieg bop style. Enthusiastic, their forces rush head first into combat, and many mistakes are made. Initially, it was a massacre. The images
that were finally shown to light:
The United States would have to respond. In fact, the coalition that would had already been built. Like clockwork, the United States declared war on Iraq, then the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, then West Germany, then things got really weird. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, East Germany, and Iran also declared war on Iraq. Notably, the People's Republic of China did not.
Very quickly, Saddam Hussein was literally shaking in his boots. The Iraqi took defensive positions, and then planted there. They wanted to play World War One style. The POTUS and the leaders of the coalition had better ideas. George W. Smith was called out of retirement and he volunteered to lead the initial wave of invasion. Iran quickly invaded, and then the United Arab Emirates, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and the Republic of Egypt also declared on Iraq.
Then, Saddam shit himself. The First Marine Expeditionary Brigade was shipped out from Hawai'i, and Soviet planes rocked the Iraqi positions. As if it were planned, the aforementioned four countries invaded Iraq themselves. Soon enough, Marine boots were on the ground.
Like hellfire, the Iraqi people quickly realized their mistake in trusting Saddam. President Jackson challenged George W. Smith to win the war in 40 days, and combined with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, and commander of United States Central Command Norman Schwarzkopf Jr., they do. Technically.
The Iraqi forces were quickly dispelled from Kuwait, and Kuwaiti independence was restored. Military forces were left as others came rushing in. The remaining forces tended to the destruction, setting up hospitals and seeing to the rebuilding of the local infrastructure. Meanwhile, the fresh forces rushed into Iraq proper. It was mainly American forces, then. The blue boys and gals back home had once more been called to war.
A draft wasn't needed, nor was any feeling of such a need felt. With a flick of his wrist, President Jackson absolutely, unequivocally integrated the combat troops. Volunteer rates shot through the roof, with many women specifically volunteering for combat themselves. This one shocked Mr. Gorbachev, but he liked it.
Coordinated attacks continued, and then suddenly, an Iraqi civil war was upon the coalition. Called the Sha'aban Intifada among Shi'ite Iraqis, and the National Uprising among Kurds, they opted to support these insurgent forces. Within a matter of month or two, Saddam Hussein was in the hands of coalition forces. As if it wasn't planned at all, insurgent forces popped up in Egypt, with revolutionary forces taking Hosni Mubarak for themselves.
A graphic video of his last moments showing revolutionary forces beating him and a soldier sodomizing him with a bayonet before he was shot several times as he pleaded for his life was rather quickly leaked to the press. Suddenly, the American apatite for war was growing thin. After all, everything had been documented, and everything shown.
The Arab Spring was upon us.
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