Happy New Year everyone! And now for the first volley of responses for 2012!
Dellums: Serving on Berkeley City Council. Given the effective end of the overseas quagmire by 1969 ITTL, there was no need to recruit him to run against the incumbent congressman (Rep. Jeffery Cohelan) who supported it IOTL, and he remains in office.
Buckley: Elected Senator for New York in 1970, on the Conservative Party line, coming up the middle between two liberal candidates.
Kemp: The football star was elected as a Republican to the House of Representatives in 1970, representing a suburban Buffalo district.
Abzug: Elected as a Democrat to the House of Representatives in 1970, representing a Manhattan district.
Paul: A former Air Captain and prominent obstetrician-gynecologist working out of Lake Jackson, Texas.
Hospers: Chairman of the Department of Philosophy at the University of Southern California.
I will have more guesses for you shortly.
Even on Star Trek, Shatner was wholly capable of turning in an excellent performance ("The City on the Edge of Forever" is the best example of this on the show proper). Nimoy, of course, was consistently good. The problem both of them had, though, was that if they felt the material to be beneath them, they really let it seep through into their performance (part of the reason the Turd Season was such a disaster IOTL). Contrast DeForest Kelley, a veteran, old-school character actor, who always gave every performance his all.Yep - actually, love him or hate him, Shatner too stuck to his acting chops, and later in life I think again proved he can in fact act. But Nimoy was early on clearly interested and capable of having a serious acting career.
The... what?!Glen said:Now that is intriguing - and if you do, maybe I will tell you the Legend of the Doily War...
It wasn't even recognized as being of cabinet-level rank IOTL, either. I'm afraid that's all the bump I'm willing to give it for now.Glen said:Sorry, I left out some explanation on that - I was thinking that with the increased emphasis on Space ITTL we might actually see NASA head as a Cabinet position, not that it was IOTL.
I'm not sure I care for your provocative tone, sir. I think I might have to contact a moderator, and get him to put a stop to thisGlen said:MUST - HAVE - CROSSOVER - UPDATE - SOONEST!!!!
These are all very good ideas. Therefore, I will not confirm or deny any of themAn idea for James Doohan. Perhaps he could be involved somehow in engineering? He inspired some people to make that their career. Also, could the CBC invite him back? He appeared in a number of CBC shows early on- plus he was a Canadian WWII veteran...
I think what he was trying to do was apply his Shakespearean training to the small screen. That's why Captain Kirk has such unusual speech patterns - they're actually iambic and trochaic rhythms. Applied to naturalistic modern dialogue, of course, they sound absurd. But this is the man who will not pronounce "sabotage" correctly because it "sickens" him. Like I said, raving egomaniac.Yes, this actually happened. No I don't understand what happened to his acting ability between the '50s and '60s.
That's certainly possible. I think he's really just one of those actors who needs strong direction. If you want proof that Nicholas Meyer is a brilliant director, watch TWOK. "KHAAAAAN!" aside, he gives a downright subdued performance as Kirk. It's amazing to watch.Perhaps it's a stage versus TV thing. With no live audience, he felt something was missing and tried to compensate with, well, I remember the jokes about his hamming it up [...] but I'm sure there's other stuff, too.
Thank you for all your kind words, Vultan. And welcome aboard!Goodness gracious Lordy me, I cannot believe I've missed this fabulous timeline until this point.
Not much I can praise you on that hasn't already been said - it's wonderful!
Duly noted. No promises, mind you, but it looks like I might have a riot on my hands (led by a moderator, no less) if I don't...vultan said:Also not much I can suggest (you seem to have gotten an earful from those wanting an earlier Battlestar Galactica, and count me among them).
We're going to encounter someone connected with George Lucas sooner than you might think.vultan said:Maybe George Lucas is able to do an earlier Star Wars, or his Flash Gordon project.
I don't plan on focusing on politics again until the 1973-74 cycle (yes, that means I won't be doing an update on the 1972 presidential election). But I'll tell you where all of them are as of the 1970 midterms.vultan said:And, though it isn't the focus of this timeline, I wonder how things are going on politically. For instance, let me think of a few political figures who became notable in the 70's. Ron Dellums. Jim Buckley. Jack Kemp. Bella Abzug. Ron Paul. John Hospers. Are any of them going to be different ITTL (or would that be a spoiler?)
Dellums: Serving on Berkeley City Council. Given the effective end of the overseas quagmire by 1969 ITTL, there was no need to recruit him to run against the incumbent congressman (Rep. Jeffery Cohelan) who supported it IOTL, and he remains in office.
Buckley: Elected Senator for New York in 1970, on the Conservative Party line, coming up the middle between two liberal candidates.
Kemp: The football star was elected as a Republican to the House of Representatives in 1970, representing a suburban Buffalo district.
Abzug: Elected as a Democrat to the House of Representatives in 1970, representing a Manhattan district.
Paul: A former Air Captain and prominent obstetrician-gynecologist working out of Lake Jackson, Texas.
Hospers: Chairman of the Department of Philosophy at the University of Southern California.
He and his erstwhile ally, Scoop Jackson (inasmuch as they both oppose President Humphrey's policies) spend most of the time grousing.vultan said:But speaking of politicians, I wonder how Senator Bill Proxmire, THE opponent of space exploration in OTL, is doing?
One of my readers has specifically asked after "Kojak", so I will discuss the fate of everyone's favourite cueballed Greek-American.I wouln't object if he didn't because he got something else. Nor, TBH, if he still did; I liked the show, the character, & Savalas.
phx1138 said:2 more right: "GAH" & "AN" (tho the casting of "AN", after the movie, was pretty odd; what part of James Caan looks like Mick Jagger? Eric Pierpont was excellent.) I've never understood the appeal of David Lynch.
I will have more guesses for you shortly.
He still does. He's always been the CBC's biggest cheerleader.phx1138 said:He was working for CBC at the time, no? What was he supposed to say? "This network sucks"? ("CBC regrets to announce Peter Mansbridge is stepping down to spend more time with family.")
IOTL, the 1970s were the decade of cop shows, so I have no doubt that something like it would eventually air.phx1138 said:"Kojak" appears to have depended quite a bit on a '63 murder case & false confession, in the pre-Miranda days, so IMO you'd get something like it in any case.
One of the "Big Five"? Well, that alone merits further investigationphx1138 said:Also, I came across this. I didn't recall Bob Justman being associated with it. In the changed SF environment, it could go more than one season. (Yes, I liked it.)
I should clarify: the movie will still exist; DeForest Kelley just won't be appearing in it.phx1138 said:Having made the mistake of watching that on cable, you have no idea how glad I am.
You'll be lucky if I can get him to make his guest appearance on "The Littlest Hobo", as IOTL.phx1138 said:I am sorry about that. You don't suppose you could have him do something like "Matlock" after a decade or so?
That Wacky Redhead is running a business, not a charity. I agree that she'd be more understanding and accommodating than the average studio chief or network executive, but she's not going to give away what she personally knows for a fact to be her most valuable asset.phx1138 said:Knowing Lucy, I'd bet they get a better deal. She was a tough, smart businesswoman, but she'd also seen the other side, & I have no doubt she knew actors who were broke because they got denied residuals.
phx1138 said:You're such a tease.
And as I'm sure you know, virtually all the halfway-decent Canadian actors leave for Hollywood or Broadway, leaving us with not much.phx1138 said:It was where he started, in Montreal. Bear in mind, this is a Canadian acting community, which is pretty small. He was good enough to get to Hollywood & make a steady living. In TV acting, excellence isn't mandatory.
I actually quite enjoyed his first, mostly forgotten appearance ("Nick of Time"). His second, far more memorable one ("There's... something... on-the-wing-of-the-plane!") is typical Shatner. (I enjoyed it, too, though for entirely different reasons.)phx1138 said:It's been years since I saw his "Twilight Zone" spots. Were they that bad?
You have it, sir! Expect the production appendix for the fifth (and last) season of Star Trek tonight!Well, I guess our next installment will be a New Year's Day treat. I await it with much anticipation!