Rise of Imperial France: Through the 19th Century and Beyond

Even so, his demands were quite modest - demanding the return of Quebec (lost half a century before) and the sugar islands would have been extremely popular in France. It wouldn't have been out of character for Napolean to try to install a relative as King of England or at least marry one of his brothers to Princess Charlotte, King George's only legitimate grandchild at the time.

Though he didn't really replace major powers he defeated with his dynasty. He did leave the Prussian and Austrian monarchs alone after he beat them. Though to me Ireland is a possible choice for a Bonaparte puppet. I guess marrying Charlotte is a definite possibility.

And if he wants a colonial empire he'd probably end up taking Quebec back.
 
There are a couple of minor details I'm not sure of - I've never been to Penzance personally but Cornwall isn't famed for its plains.

However, the outcomes of the individual battles seemed plausible to me. If anything, I'm surprised Napolean didn't decide to press on and try to take London.

Even so, his demands were quite modest - demanding the return of Quebec (lost half a century before) and the sugar islands would have been extremely popular in France. It wouldn't have been out of character for Napolean to try to install a relative as King of England or at least marry one of his brothers to Princess Charlotte, King George's only legitimate grandchild at the time.


About Penzance/Cornwall, ah, minor mistake. How embarrassing! :p

About Quebec, I highly considered that. It also seems the most logical choice- but in the end, I decided to spice up the timeline a bit by giving Australia to the French instead.

"Great Britain would drop all claims to eastern Australia, which had yet to be colonized. Instead, France claimed it, hoping to reestablish a colonial empire."

There were a few reasons ol' Nappy wanted Australia instead of Quebec back in this timeline. For one, Australia wasn't colonized yet. The French would be the first to establish settlements there, and French colonial soldiers would be able to gain experience and practice against any natives there- namely the Aboriginals. Another reason was that Victoria and Tasmania would be great places for the French to colonize:

The climate of Southern Victoria is similar to Northern France (expect with milder winters). Also it is much healthier than France is, so the population is going to grow at an extremely fast rate doubling every 25 years (even if immigration is minimal).

Australia (especially Southern Australia) would be healthier than France, so the population would be doubling every 25 years (not including any immigration). Actually given the climate of Southern Australia (especially Victoria), the colony really would be a New France compared to Quebec. Since Victoria has a climate similar to at least the Southern regions of France, Tasmania is more similar to Northern France.

A French colony in these areas would certainly flourish. The third reason for Australia instead of Quebec is that it brings the French closer to the Far East, namely China and Japan: trade between either would greatly help the French. Oh and finally, Australia can serve as a place where the French can launch future expeditions into Indochina. wink wink ;)
 
Postwar Europe


After the end of the Napoleonic wars, on October 24, 1812, Europe was at peace for a total period of 12 years, until it was once again plunged into chaos. These twelve years of peace and prosperity came to be known as the "Era of Prosperity". Indeed, the twelve years following the defeat of Britain helped many European nations become wealthy, grow, and flourish. The three nations most affected were France, Britain and Spain.


Great Britain: 1812-1824


Although Great Britain had lost the war and suffered quite a bit, the war ultimately helped contribute to rebuilding and growing the British Empire. Despite the 100 million francs that were given to the winners of the war, the British, after a short period of struggle, were able to generate tons of money from their rich colonies and trade with the French, and once again become one of the greatest powers in the world. Expensive spices and exotic herbs came from the British colony of India, while massive amounts of wood and fur came from British Canada. In addition, the rich sugar islands of the British islands in the Caribbean greatly helped in increasing British wealth. The colonies of India and Canada- especially India- were expanded. Most of the Indian subcontinent was under the Union Jack by the year 1819, with the British royal military and the East India Company cooperating in conquering the vast land.

In 1812, the total British population was rather small in comparison to other nations- a measly 12 million. By 1822, however, the British population had jumped to 23 million people, almost doubling in just ten years. Following the war, a strong sense of nationalism formed, with almost all of Britain becoming anti-French. In addition, the late arrival of the Duke of Wellington showed that the British had to industrialize more. Roads and supply posts throughout the entire empire were either rebuilt or improved. More factories began to spring up throughout the British isles, greatly improving the industrialization of Britain. Many new, more up-to-date warships were built, for the Treaty of London did not ban the building of new warships. The Royal Navy soon regained its status as the strongest navy in the world, exerting its power throughout the British colonies.

In addition to exerting its power throughout the British colonies, the British also exerted their influence over many small countries around the world, particularly in Africa and Asia. Hoping to slowly annex small countries and gain more colonies, many countries such as Egypt and Afghanistan were put under heavy British influence, making British power stronger in those regions. Along with these colonial and naval changes, the British Army was also reformed. The British Army was brought up-to-date with new weapons, tactics, and trained in different types of warfare. These newly reformed British troops were able to test their skills in the colonies, defeating local rebellions and regional powers.

Britain also began to get more involved in politics and world affairs, creating a strong alliance with Prussia and setting up trade with many, many nations. The Prussians and the British had not been allied since 1806- when the Prussians cowardly signed a non-aggression pact with the French. That act greatly strained the relations between Prussia and Great Britain, but finally, in 1818 the old friendship was reborn. Britain also created trade with many countries, notably Spain, Prussia, Austria, Russia, and China.

By the beginning of the next big war in Europe in 1824, Great Britain was once again one of the largest and strongest empires, with the greatest navy and a finely trained army. The British Empire was quite powerful- and they were thirsty for some revenge.

A/N: Sorry for the delay between this and the last update. This week I've been really busy. Coming up next (hopefully soon!) are updates on Spain and France! Then comes the war..
 
1812: The Invasion of England



Napoleon and his armies had to move fast. Despite the defeat and death of Horatio Nelson and his fleet, the British still had hundreds of other ships and several other large fleets. Even with Cartier's brilliance and the bravery of the French sailors, the reformed French Navy would never be able to defeat the Royal Navy in it's entirety. Napoleon's armies got onto their respective transport fleets and set sail for England. Napoleon had now entered the point of no return.

The British had anticipated the invasion of England, and sent men to protect the coastline of England, heavily fortifying the shoreline. Each French/Allied army was to take one key port city and occupy it, disrupting British international trade. If all four attacks were successful, the British would soon find over 300,000 men on their doorsteps. Emperor Napoleon, even with all his thirst for glory and conquest, knew that he could not occupy all of the British Isles. He was hoping that France and the British would be able to create peace.


Battle of Penzance: July 7


General Riviera was assigned the task of taking the city of Penzance, in western England. Riviera had an army of 60,000, most of them being experienced Spanish soldiers who tasted victory at the Battle of Vigo. Along with his Spaniards were 15,000 Frenchmen.

On July 7, Riviera's men landed on the plains near the town of Penzance. His army laid siege to the city. The British defenders numbered 26,500, most of them being Fencibles: British militia. After heavy bombardment by Riviera's artillery, the walls broke and the British sallied out to meet the invaders. The Spaniards were in a long line with the French in the back as reserves, along with a force of cavalry on Riviera's left wing. The British ran out and the two lines began to exchange fire in the late afternoon. The Spanish troops, who were newly equipped and trained, performed exceptionally well against the British. Within an hour of heavy fighting, the British right flank began to falter. Sensing the weakness, Riviera ordered his cavalry to slam into the Redcoats, which resulted in a mass rout. The battle was very short, with the entire British defense force collapsing within a few hours. After the retreat of the British, Riviera marched into Penzance, securing a victory for the invasion force. Riviera however, would have the easiest time out of the four armies.


Bloody Battle at Ramsgate: July 7-8


Under General Ruyter were 40,000 Dutchmen and 10,000 Frenchmen. Compared to their Spanish counterparts, the Dutch soldiers were equipped and trained better. This was due to the fact that the Batavian Republic had been a client state of France for years now. The Dutch army had constantly been reforming for several years, after having Napoleonic and revolutionary ideals spread to it.

While Riviera was fighting in western England at Penzance, Ruyter invaded Ramsgate. The British had been expecting an invasion force to land and attack at Ramsgate, and so, it was heavily fortified. Cannons and hastily-made stone walls lined the upper shore. When the predominantly Dutch army landed on the shore, they were immediately fired at. Ruyter, being the charismatic leader he was, rallied his troops and led the attack. Ruyter's army advanced towards the British defenses, with French artillery blasting at the stone walls.

The 32,000 British defenders formed a line in front of the walls and fired at the advancing Dutchmen, causing many casualties as they advanced up the shore. Cannonballs and bullets flew like locusts; the Dutch lost a considerable amount of life in their advance up the shore. Ruyter, not one to let down the Emperor of the French, continued to rally and inspire his men. Finally, when the Dutch reached the British lines, intense fighting ensued. Fire, smoke, and death filled the battlefield, people falling down left and right. The heavy fighting dragged on for hours, and at 9:18, the British defenders succumbed and retreated into the town. They were not defeated however, and prepared for a second fight. The two armies nervously rested, but at 1:04 in the middle of the night, Ruyter got his men to renew the attack on Ramsgate. The surprised- and sleepy British, were forced back and slowly retreated through the town. By the end of the hour, the British were all forcefully expelled from Ramsgate, retreating in disarray. However, Ruyter's losses were extremely heavy; from the 50,000 men that he led at the beginning of the invasion, only 33,548 men remained- nearly half of his army was killed in the battle.


Victory at Plymouth and the Legendary Battle: July 16-19


Davout, unlike Riviera or Ruyter, did not immediately land at his target city and begin fighting. Davout's transport force included several ship-of-the-lines and frigates, and so he took advantage of the warships. His army of 80,000 landed close to the city of Plymouth, an important British port. From there, Davout laid siege to the city from both land and sea: the French artillery rained destruction onto the city, while the port was blockaded by the small French squadron of warships. The British merchant ships docked in Plymouth were burned, and Davout asked the city for an immediate surrender. The defenders of Plymouth only numbered up to 20,300 men, mostly Fencibles. The British however, knew something that Davout didn't know. A large force under the Duke of Wellington was coming to reinforce the city, and would soon be here- it was coming before the siege had started. The British surrendered and retreated, deciding to meet up with Wellington and surprise the French by attacking and taking the city back in one swift strike. After the surrender and retreat of the British militia, Davout moved in and took the city with zero casualties. At first, the marshal was delighted, but soon realized that Plymouth was too important of a city. The British would not just let the city fall into French hands, and would send a relief force. Davout quickly got his army to move and set up positions out in the fields east of Plymouth, near the River Plym.

A few days later, on July 19, Davout's predictions came true. French scouts spotted a rapidly moving army coming south towards Davout's positions.


Marshal Davout was regarded as Napoleon's best marshal. Some even considered him better than the Emperor, which may or may not have been true. On the other hand, Arthur Wellesley, the 1st Duke of Wellington, was regarded as the best British general. It was such a coincidence that on July 19, 1812, one of the best French marshals- if not the best, fought against the best British general. Louis-Nicolas Davout had 80,000 men and set up his army near the River Plym, early in the morning of July 19. Wellington's army of 82,500 approached Davout's positions and prepared for a battle, with both armies on the same side of the river. By now, most of Britain knew about the French victories at Penzance and Ramsgate. British morale was low, but Wellington assured victory while addressing his army before the Battle of the River Plym. At noon, the morning fog disappeared, and the British cannons began firing at the French. The French cannons quickly retaliated, and a battle between the two armies' artillery ensued. Between the two armies was flat, wet land. The French were on a small hill, while the British were on flat land. After several hours of cannon exchanges, Wellington was urged to press an attack against the French, for Plymouth needed to be restored to British control as soon as possible. Wellington had two choices: he could split his army into two and send part of it to Plymouth, which was undefended except for a few hundred or thousand soldiers. However, that would leave his original army's position vulnerable to being overwhelmed by the French. He could also commit his entire army to try and defeat the French on the hill. He also had a third option, which was to send his entire army into Plymouth, but the French were closer to it, and his army would be attacked from the back. He was in a sticky situation. Eventually, the Duke of Wellington chose to commit his army to an attack on the French artillery, knowing the French would not leave their favorable spot on the hill. When Wellington's forces mobilized and began marching towards Davout, the French marshal deployed his infantry in two lines: one at the bottom of the hill, and one up on the grade of the hill, so that his two lines could fire at the British simultaneously. Seeing this, Wellington sent a small force of light cavalry to skirmish and annoy the French lines, diverting their attention from the British riflemen who moved up to shoot at the French lines. Several officers were sniped and killed by the British riflemen, but the riflemen failed in killing Davout. The riflemen, however, forced the French lines to move up and fire at them. Wellington's rifles quickly retreated, and the British lines moved up a bit. The two lines shot at each other at almost the same time, while Davout's second line on the hill now had to rearrange itself. The British, with their thin lines which only consisted of 2 ranks, began to overpower the French lines. Seeing this, Davout attempted a hammer and anvil strike, carefully maneuvering his cavalry around the distracted British lines. The British were hit in the back, and Davout's hammer and anvil maneuver succeeded. Wellington used his reserves of cavalry to slam into the French cavalry, resulting in the French cavalry being sandwiched between the British horses and the British lines. Meanwhile, the French were doing massive damage to the distracted British infantry. The bloody battle continued for quite a long time, resulting in the destruction of Davout's cavalry- and heavy damage to British infantry. The French infantry was also depleted. At this point, Wellington bitterly swallowed his pride and withdrew his forces, slowly retreating back. Davout had also withdrawn his troops, moving them back behind the hills. The Battle of the River Plym was a bloody and inconclusive battle, with neither army being totally defeated. However, it was a French strategic victory, because they were able to stop the British from retaking Plymouth. The draw would be known as a legendary battle in the years to come.


Surrender at Southampton! July 20-August 16th


Only a day after the draw at the River Plym, Napoleon finally reached Southampton, one of the most important British ports. A skirmish between Napoleon's escort of warships and the British ships occurred, with the British ships retreating back into harbor. The French began a blockade of Southampton, much like at Plymouth. Napoleon's men laid siege to Southampton. Napoleon's plan was to starve the city out into surrendering: the more men he had left, the better of a position the French would be in when the peace treaty was being discussed. For nearly a month, Napoleon laid siege to Southampton. Several times, the British sent in armies to help relieve the city, but Napoleon's large force of 120,000 men were able to crush all relief forces. Soon, after the third attempt to relieve Southampton failed, the cowardly general of the city's defense force surrendered to the French on August 16th.


Ending the Napoleonic Wars: Peace to Europe


By mid August, four important British ports had fallen to France. The loss of Penzance, Ramsgate, Plymouth and Southampton all in such a short time dropped British morale to an all time low. Small riots had broken out in parts of the country. Meanwhile, the four armies under Napoleon, Davout, Ruyter and Riviera moved forward through England and defeated the British in a number of small skirmishes. The invasion force won a decisive, and major victory at the Battle of Hastings, where the Duke of York lost over 80,000 soldiers to a combined Allied army. For the next couple of weeks, the British would launch several offensives onto the Allied army, but all were repulsed. The Allied forces had dropped to 202,000, but went back up to 285,000 after reinforcements came from France. At this point, the four armies laid siege to London, resulting a large skirmish outside of the city. Napoleon, knowing that taking London would be extremely difficult and would result in a large loss of life, asked the British for peace. Peace talks between France and Great Britain started formally on October 7. Most people in Great Britain were unhappy with the war and wanted an immediate end to the war. Much of southern England was devastated, even causing small riots in that area.

The quick, rapid French victories could be attributed to many things. For one, the British didn't expect such a large, and rapid, invasion. A huge majority of the British people thought that Nelson would never be defeated, let alone be killed. Most thought that as long as Nelson controlled the English Channel, Britain would never be invaded. However, with Nelson's defeat, 310,000 men landed in England. The British were unprepared for such a large invasion force, especially so quick. Another reason for the series of British defeats was the organization of the invasion. Each commander knew exactly what they were supposed to do, where, when, how, and why. The quality of the opposing armies also made a big difference. The French/Allied armies were experienced from years of fighting on the continent, battle hardened and ready for another battle. In contrast, the British were mostly made out of Fencibles, militia made for the sole purpose of defense. Wellington's army was one of the only British armies in the war to be made out of professional, regular troops. Using actual regulars helped Wellington score a tie with Davout, despite the French having an advantage. Most people agree that if the British had a larger amount of regulars ready for the invasion, the war would have gone very differently.

On October 24, 1812, the Treaty of London was signed. The treaty formally ended all hostilities between France and Great Britain, including all of France's allies. The terms of the treaty were as follows:

- All French conquests in previous Coalition wars would be recognized by the British Empire, while the four cities taken by France (namely Penzance, Ramsgate, Plymouth and Southampton) would be returned to Great Britain.

- The British professional army would not be allowed to surpass 105,000, including soldiers in its colonies.

- As a payment, every British ship that possessed over 98 guns was to be handed to France, with the exception of the HMS Victory, which was allowed to remain in British hands as a tribute to Horatio Nelson. This was a personal request from Fleet Admiral Cartier.

- Great Britain would drop all claims to eastern Australia, which had yet to be colonized. Instead, France claimed it, hoping to reestablish a colonial empire.

- 70 million francs would be paid to France, 20 million to Spain, and 10 million to the Batavian Republic. Originally, Britain was supposed to pay 90 million to France, but the French allowed the British to keep another 20 million to repair their army, navy, and devastated towns/cities.

- The Allied armies would withdraw from Great Britain.

- Trade would be established between France and Great Britain. Napoleon famously proclaimed, "Now that this bloody struggle is over, I wish for no more conflict with the great British people, but only peace and cooperative prosperity".

The terms were humiliating for the British, but agreed to it, for they had no choice- over 200,000 soldiers were outside of London! Many people found bright sides in the treaty, however. Instead of giving up wealthy colonies like the West Indies, Britain only had to give up their Australian possessions, which had not yet been colonized. The British would also get all of their towns and cities back. It was humiliating, but the British agreed to it. The alternative was destruction.

So, on October 24, the treaty was signed and the effects of the treaty were immediately put into effect. For the first time in two decades, Europe was at peace.


EDIT: British Empire lovers can rest assured, as I'm done with weakening Britain! In fact, Britain is going to make quite a resurgence later..

Well, it's a pity your care about british empire lovers has ruined your timeline.

You can't have Britain invaded and decisively defeated have such a lenient peace. Invasion and decisive defeat on its homeland means collapse for the british oligarchy and the ruin of the City (bankrupt of all the sound financial system which contributed so much to british superiority). In such a situation, the UK would kiss goodbye to Ireland, maybe even Scotland, and to a significant part of its colonies, most of all India of course, and at least in part in North America (that would probably interest the french more than so distant Australia), and also south Africa.

As far as financial reparations are concerned, take into account that France paid something like 800 million francs.

If you want Britain to remain such a great power, you need to have it not decisively defeated on its homeland. Just have Napoleon win its russian campaign and find a solution for Spain, then the UK will come to terms with Napoleon and keep its colonial empire.
 
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Well, it's a pity your care about british empire lovers has ruined your timeline.

You can't have Britain invaded and decisively defeated have such a lenient peace. Invasion and decisive defeat on its homeland means collapse for the british oligarchy and the ruin of the City (bankrupt of all the sound financial system which contributed so much to british superiority). In such a situation, the UK would kiss goodbye to Ireland, maybe even Scotland, and to a significant part of its colonies, most of all India of course, and at least in part in North America (that would probably interest the french more than so distant Australia), and also south Africa.

As far as financial reparations are concerned, take into account that France paid something like 800 million francs.

If you want Britain to remain such a great power, you need to have it not decisively defeated on its homeland. Just have Napoleon win its russian campaign and find a solution for Spain, then the UK will come to terms with Napoleon and keep its colonial empire.


My "care" about British Empire lovers has "ruined" my timeline? Excuse me, sir. I beg to differ. First of all, you seem to have taken my statement quite literally. I didn't mean that British Empire lovers can rest assured because I wanted British Empire lovers to stay with my timeline. No, no, no. I just said it to make my point: this timeline isn't about the British getting defeated.

Secondly, it is quite possible for the British to make a resurgence as a great power after the invasion. It seems as if you think that after being invaded, the British would never be able to grow and become a powerful empire again- something that is quite foolish, with all due respect. In fact, I have seen several timelines where the British were invaded and managed to become a great empire again shortly after- out of the top of my head, I can think of at least one of them.

Thirdly, what do financial reparations have to do with anything? I don't know if you are speaking about OTL, because in this timeline I don't remember having France pay 800 million francs in war reparations. And if you are speaking about OTL, it's quite odd how you suddenly jumped from talking about TTL, quickly talked about something in OTL, then jumped back to TTL.

Finally, I find it quite ridiculous how you are telling me to change the course of the Napoleonic Wars, when, quite obviously, they are over. I'm trying to be as polite as possible, but I do not take kindly to people rudely putting down my timeline and calling it ruined when their arguments can be quickly be countered and proven wrong.

I do honestly apologize if I sounded a bit too harsh. I did have a bad day, but once again, I do not take kindly to people rudely denouncing my timeline. Perhaps you could elaborate more on how my timeline is "ruined". Everything in here is perfectly plausible, even the peace between Britain and France. It might not be as plausible as other aspects of the timeline, but certainly not on the impossible side.
 
Sorry if you felt offended by my previous post. I apologize for having been unnecessarily mocking.

My point was not about pleasing british empire lovers. It was about your contradictory choice. You can't have total defeat with so lenient peace terms.

It would be just like having Rome ta king over the city of Carthage and going back home without gradins any carthaginian territory.

800 million francs was the reparations defeated France had to pay.
 
I kind of agree with Matteo on this such lenient peace wouldn't fly well at home. It is just a mere slap on the wrist compared to the troubles Britain gave to France by assembling coalition again and again. If France win on British land it can dictate the peace term and get back as much colony as it want. The war reparation the british have to pay are ridiculously small even for the time.
 
I kind of agree with Matteo on this such lenient peace wouldn't fly well at home. It is just a mere slap on the wrist compared to the troubles Britain gave to France by assembling coalition again and again. If France win on British land it can dictate the peace term and get back as much colony as it want. The war reparation the british have to pay are ridiculously small even for the time.

And Bony has never been known for leniency in these types of things.
 
Well, IMO the terms were a little bit lenient. But I think Napoleon may actually do it exactly as you speculated Azure, since he doesn't want to destroy Britain as a nation (since it might drastically change Europe forever), but force them to stop undermining his empire.

About the colonies though, I think I'll disagree with someof the guys here. Napoleon isn't exactly known for colonial ventures (except Haiti). His priority at this point is securing his borders. But not for long, I guess.
 
Sorry if you felt offended by my previous post. I apologize for having been unnecessarily mocking.

My point was not about pleasing british empire lovers. It was about your contradictory choice. You can't have total defeat with so lenient peace terms.

It would be just like having Rome ta king over the city of Carthage and going back home without gradins any carthaginian territory.

800 million francs was the reparations defeated France had to pay.


First off, I want to thank you for being the bigger person and apologizing. I was hoping this wouldn't escalate into an argument, and thank goodness it didn't. I definitely see your point. I also understand your point, Xgentis. While it is definitely very true that most, if not everyone in France, would have wanted harsher terms against Britain, I kind of wanted this to be one of Napoleon's biggest mistakes. If you recall, Napoleon has made a couple of wise choices in this timeline, notably not invading Spain, not invading Russia, and putting much more effort into rebuilding the French Navy. It wouldn't make for an exciting timeline if France became five times stronger than it's strongest rival so early in the timeline. So, I kind of meant for Napoleon's leniency to be his big mistake, since he didn't make any thus far. Now looking back, I realize I probably should have said this earlier, that was totally my mistake.
 
I have been enjoying this timeline. One question I have is how France was able to land at four different points on Britain despite the UK still having a vast superiority in ships? I understand that France must have gained local superiority but wouldn't the UK just recall more ships to defend southern England? Also, I would probably agree that the peace settlement for Britain is probably to light.
 
I have been enjoying this timeline. One question I have is how France was able to land at four different points on Britain despite the UK still having a vast superiority in ships? I understand that France must have gained local superiority but wouldn't the UK just recall more ships to defend southern England? Also, I would probably agree that the peace settlement for Britain is probably to light.


The Royal Navy, even after the defeat of Nelson's grand fleet was definitely still very large and very much capable of defeating the French convoys sending the French/Allied armies into England. However, if I remember correctly I think I mentioned the shock and surprise of the British following Nelson's defeat. Up until that point, pretty much all of Great Britain was relying on Nelson's seemingly invincible fleet to destroy any French convoys. Of course, the British sent their ships over to the English Channel, but the hastily-assembled fleets and convoys were too late. By the time they had reached the EC, the French were already within England. So, that was a mistake on Britain's part: believing Nelson's fleet to be invincible and capable of defeating any invasion forces.
 
Spain: 1812-1824


Spain was also heavily affected by the Napoleonic Wars. During the final stages of the war, the Spanish army had been vigorously reformed and modernized, thanks to the French. Revolutionary ideals swept over Spain like a wildfire. Following the end of the war, Spain experienced an economic boom. Gold once again filled the royal Spanish treasury, and new tactics, technological advances, and industrial improvements were being made everyday.

Despite the new-found wealth and growth that Spain experienced, the foolish Spanish monarch at the time, Charles IV, absolutely refused to take advantage of the situation to help improve Spain. Instead, Charles IV ignored many new inventions and improvements that could have helped Spain. He called for a halt in reforming the Spanish Army, using all of his money to instead build lavish palaces. Charles IV increased taxes on the poor and for the most part, ignored local resistance groups and rebellions in the Spanish colonies. During this period, Spain was seen as a puppet of France, and a weak, second-rate nation.

Finally, on August 26, 1815, the Spanish people had had enough. Rebels from all over Spain organized and formed the Spanish Revolution. The Spanish government soon split in half, with one half being led by Charles IV himself, while the other half launched a coup d'etat. France and Britain looked at the turmoil in Spain with alarm, but were both not sure who to help in the war. Following several small skirmishes, the coup d'etat proved to be successful, with the absolutist monarchy of Charles IV being overthrown. It was replaced by a new king, Philip I, who would later come to be known as the Heroic King, Philip I. Philip and the Spanish revolutionaries came together and made an agreement, forming a new constitutional monarchy with the Spanish Constitution of 1815.

Under Philip I, Spain was allowed to prosper and flourish, reestablishing strong connections with its colonies. Spain began to industrialize, hoping to match the powerhouses of France and Britain. Several armies were sent to the colonies to quell rebellions, creating opportunities for the newly reformed Spanish army to prove their worth and gain experience in battle. The Spanish Navy was also reformed under Philip.

In addition to colonial and military reforms and changes, the Spanish created strong ties with Great Britain. The two countries, sharing the same type of government and having similar ideals, slowly grew to become friends. Under Philip I, the prestige of Spain was restored, and Spain was no longer seen as a mere puppet of France. Colonial expeditions were paid for by the Spanish crown, meaning that the Spanish Empire would slowly continue to grow.

By the year 1824, Spain had made a glorious resurgence, once again becoming a great power and a major player in world politics.
 

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Spain: 1812-1824


Spain was also heavily affected by the Napoleonic Wars. During the final stages of the war, the Spanish army had been vigorously reformed and modernized, thanks to the French. Revolutionary ideals swept over Spain like a wildfire. Following the end of the war, Spain experienced an economic boom. Gold once again filled the royal Spanish treasury, and new tactics, technological advances, and industrial improvements were being made everyday.

Despite the new-found wealth and growth that Spain experienced, the foolish Spanish monarch at the time, Charles IV, absolutely refused to take advantage of the situation to help improve Spain. Instead, Charles IV ignored many new inventions and improvements that could have helped Spain. He called for a halt in reforming the Spanish Army, using all of his money to instead build lavish palaces. Charles IV increased taxes on the poor and for the most part, ignored local resistance groups and rebellions in the Spanish colonies. During this period, Spain was seen as a puppet of France, and a weak, second-rate nation.

Finally, on August 26, 1815, the Spanish people had had enough. Rebels from all over Spain organized and formed the Spanish Revolution. The Spanish government soon split in half, with one half being led by Charles IV himself, while the other half launched a coup d'etat. France and Britain looked at the turmoil in Spain with alarm, but were both not sure who to help in the war. Following several small skirmishes, the coup d'etat proved to be successful, with the absolutist monarchy of Charles IV being overthrown. It was replaced by a new king, Philip I, who would later come to be known as the Heroic King, Philip I. Philip and the Spanish revolutionaries came together and made an agreement, forming a new constitutional monarchy with the Spanish Constitution of 1815.

Under Philip I, Spain was allowed to prosper and flourish, reestablishing strong connections with its colonies. Spain began to industrialize, hoping to match the powerhouses of France and Britain. Several armies were sent to the colonies to quell rebellions, creating opportunities for the newly reformed Spanish army to prove their worth and gain experience in battle. The Spanish Navy was also reformed under Philip.

In addition to colonial and military reforms and changes, the Spanish created strong ties with Great Britain. The two countries, sharing the same type of government and having similar ideals, slowly grew to become friends. Under Philip I, the prestige of Spain was restored, and Spain was no longer seen as a mere puppet of France. Colonial expeditions were paid for by the Spanish crown, meaning that the Spanish Empire would slowly continue to grow.

By the year 1824, Spain had made a glorious resurgence, once again becoming a great power and a major player in world politics.

I think it's very unlikely that Napoleon dosn't intervene in this conflict. He would certainly attempt to liberalize Spain while securing this country as a vassal of France.
 
I think it's very unlikely that Napoleon dosn't intervene in this conflict. He would certainly attempt to liberalize Spain while securing this country as a vassal of France.


The coup and the revolution was done in a very short amount of time. Oh believe me, I most certainly wanted to have the Emperor intervene on behalf of the revolutionaries/the supporters of Philip, but by the time he could have gotten a sizable French force to the Franco-Spanish border, Philip would already be on the throne, reforming Spain. But I can say that I already have plans for Napoleon to do something about this increasingly Anglophile Spain.
 

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The coup and the revolution was done in a very short amount of time. Oh believe me, I most certainly wanted to have the Emperor intervene on behalf of the revolutionaries/the supporters of Philip, but by the time he could have gotten a sizable French force to the Franco-Spanish border, Philip would already be on the throne, reforming Spain. But I can say that I already have plans for Napoleon to do something about this increasingly Anglophile Spain.

Oh oh... I hope he's not planing to put Joseph on the throne of Spain.
 
Some nitpick, though. I think it should be Philip VI, since there are already five Philips before him (the last one reigned until 1746).
 
First off, I want to thank you for being the bigger person and apologizing. I was hoping this wouldn't escalate into an argument, and thank goodness it didn't. I definitely see your point. I also understand your point, Xgentis. While it is definitely very true that most, if not everyone in France, would have wanted harsher terms against Britain, I kind of wanted this to be one of Napoleon's biggest mistakes. If you recall, Napoleon has made a couple of wise choices in this timeline, notably not invading Spain, not invading Russia, and putting much more effort into rebuilding the French Navy. It wouldn't make for an exciting timeline if France became five times stronger than it's strongest rival so early in the timeline. So, I kind of meant for Napoleon's leniency to be his big mistake, since he didn't make any thus far. Now looking back, I realize I probably should have said this earlier, that was totally my mistake.

Well. Sorry to contradict once more. But such a kind of mistake would be too big to be crédible.

Though a mistake because it turned into a quagmire, Spain was a much smaller mistake than such a lenient peace with Britain. Britain had been France's arch-enemy for more than a century. It had taken away its enormous colonial empire in north America and in India.

What you are describing is the same as the coalition, in 1814, defeating France on its homeland and leaving Napoleon keep his domination on Italy, Germany and Spain.

I think this just can't work.
 
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